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lostom

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Things I cannot do on Android? Nothing. Things I cannot do on iPhone? Tones
HI Teddy, I have recently purchased a Huawei mate10, but can’t figure out how to get the top of a web page( or forum ), on iOS I just basically tap the top of the screen, but I find I have to continually scroll up up my new phone. I’ve now got iOS and Android, so I’m excited to find the difference between the 2, any advice would be appreciated.
 

The Game 161

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your signature quite speaks how much are you into apple things.
[doublepost=1512638332][/doublepost]i use one+ 5T. probably the only one that matches the iphone X and actually exceeds at many at a third of price(like super fast charging).

I’am now but have had many android devices over the years. This is the first year in 5-6 years where I haven’t bought an android device
 

The Game 161

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not too great on updates either.......lately they break more than they fix....
They still are great with updates generally. When there are issues or major bugs they do fix them or try to very quickly. I do agree with those who say well they should not have these issues in the first place. I personally have had no issues with my iphone x. Although on my 7 plus IOS 11 completely made my touch ID unuseable at times. I wish there were more google and samsung stores as at the moment when it comes to support apple are head and shoulders above the rest
 

jamezr

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They still are great with updates generally. When there are issues or major bugs they do fix them or try to very quickly. I do agree with those who say well they should not have these issues in the first place. I personally have had no issues with my iphone x. Although on my 7 plus IOS 11 completely made my touch ID unuseable at times. I wish there were more google and samsung stores as at the moment when it comes to support apple are head and shoulders above the rest

That is not what I am reading here on MR and other forums. The last few updates seem to be problematic. Then we won't even count the MacOS updates that broke fixes in place for major exploits.
 

The Game 161

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That is not what I am reading here on MR and other forums. The last few updates seem to be problematic. Then we won't even count the MacOS updates that broke fixes in place for major exploits.
The issues certainly existed recently thats for sure and the macbook issue was a big one and could of been damaging for many people with their laptops in the wrong hands. Looks like thats been sorted now. I've updated mine and no issues luckily. the latest 11.2 update has work as well as the last one for me. Although there will always be some with more issues than others. Least apple do come back with updates to fix certain issues. Sometimes there are too many updates but least we can depend on a new OS every summer that sends out updates when there are issues. Rather have that than not at all and waiting 6 months for the latest update
 

jamezr

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The issues certainly existed recently thats for sure and the macbook issue was a big one and could of been damaging for many people with their laptops in the wrong hands. Looks like thats been sorted now. I've updated mine and no issues luckily. the latest 11.2 update has work as well as the last one for me. Although there will always be some with more issues than others. Least apple do come back with updates to fix certain issues. Sometimes there are too many updates but least we can depend on a new OS every summer that sends out updates when there are issues. Rather have that than not at all and waiting 6 months for the latest update
They do update and update quickly...more so than anyone else to be honest. But lately the quality of their updates has been problematic. Feedback from most has been the updates seem to break a lot of things.
I have friends in call center support and management positions. They are hating Apple updates right now....their support calls for apple devices has skyrocketed after the last few IOS updates.
 

SigEp265

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First thing I do when I had an iPhone, I'd install the Gboard from Google. I just love Google's stock keyboard, and find the iPhone keyboard still stuck in 2008.

I just wish the google keyboard would just stay there! Sometimes it crashes and goes back to Apple Keyboard ... it's quite annoying.
 

Significant1

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I just wish the google keyboard would just stay there! Sometimes it crashes and goes back to Apple Keyboard ... it's quite annoying.
Not sure it crashes. I haven't experienced that. But it seems than ios doesn't handle it well, when gboard has been updated in app-store. I clear memory to fix that (press sleep button, till power off slider appears, then keep pressing home button til you return to the menu).
 

cuzo

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one thing i have yet to find on any Android phone is a keyboard as good as the one on my iphones. I can type like a madman on my iphone and the keyboard is not perfect but really close. I have tried multiple keyboards on my Android phones and nothing compares yet. The spell correction and predictive words are top notch.... i make fewer mistakes somehow.

I was about to buy the add on hardware keyboard for my s8 oitta some frustration of android keyboards.

Swiftkey went to hell the period problems, gboard is too small, flesy is weird, stock Samsung just sucks and cramped, cheetah is okay but I'm using gingerboadd now.
 
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Six8

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I was about to buy the add on hardware keyboard for my s8 oitta some frustration of android keyboards.

Swiftkey went to hell the period problems, gboard is too small, flesy is weird, stock Samsung just sucks and cramped, cheetah is okay but I'm using gingerboadd now.
I'm liking the slash keyboard
 

KingslayerG5

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Here's a couple more pennies...

Can't do iMovie
Can't check the battery cycles

I find it odd you can check battery cycles of an iPhone but iOS doesn't offer real SOT since music counts as usage and no RAM usage info.
 

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That is not what I am reading here on MR and other forums. The last few updates seem to be problematic.

But you're failing to see both sides of the spectrum. Myself Being unbiased, I will understand both sides to this and realize that iOS11 has had its issues based off my own readings, but let's not forget that a tech forum is a place for others to congregate to discuss more issues than praises with software & hardware. Outside a tech forum, My anecodotal experience Being in the tech industry, is I can Attest to a plethora of individuals who have experienced no issues with iOS 11 OR simply don't look for them, because they're not tech Orientated like some of us are. That's Just an example, not a metric.

That said, Just because what you read is 'problematic' on a tech website, is not indicative of everybody else's experience in the real world. Your response is rather Glib just based off readings versus the millions of other users who may not experience issues as such.
 

jamezr

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But you're failing to see both sides of the spectrum. Myself Being unbiased, I will understand both sides to this and realize that iOS11 has had its issues based off my own readings, but let's not forget that a tech forum is a place for others to congregate to discuss more issues than praises with software & hardware. Outside a tech forum, My anecodotal experience Being in the tech industry, is I can Attest to a plethora of individuals who have experienced no issues with iOS 11 OR simply don't look for them, because they're not tech Orientated like some of us are. That's Just an example, not a metric.

That said, Just because what you read is 'problematic' on a tech website, is not indicative of everybody else's experience in the real world. Your response is rather Glib just based off readings versus the millions of other users who may not experience issues as such.
My experience being in the tech industry and having co workers that actually support the 5000 iPhones and 3000 iPads my company deploys......is IOS updates break a lot of things. I hear this time and time again from the guys that have to support iPhones and the test the updates in a lab environment before deploying them to the rest of the firm.

Then to be honest if an IOS update is rolled out with little to no issues.......it does not make all the tech forum headlines. It just doesn't....its not worth the cycles all the tech writers would spend on it.
But lately most IOS updates are problematic to say the least. Apple has not done as good a job in testing these updates as they have in the past.

It is not just a matter of people complaining about updates on forums because they have no where else to go. This is big news now. Big news sites picking it up and reporting on this because it has become a big issue affecting a huge number of people.

I have a friend that works in a carrier call center as a manager. She tells me all the issues people have after every IOS update that breaks some feature or causes a problem. She says they increase staffing after every big IOS update just because of how problematic they have become. Call volume goes way up.....people have issues.....IOS updates have become problematic in a very big way.

Look at the MacOS updates recently as an example of what I am saying.
The security update to fix the root password exploit......was deployed. Only to be broken by the very next MacOS update that came out about a week later. It actually broke the last update to fix the exploit.
Like I said Apple has a problem with pushing out updates to their products and it is not just IOS but other products as well.
Saying that there is no problem that well only those with issues report them on these forums is sticking your head in the sand and pretending there isn't an issue.
 

kasakka

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These threads are always super weird because Android can basically do whatever you want it to do but iPhone has a ton of plusses that most phones simply don't have.

The best thing iOS has that most android don't have is Apple hardware.

What is it about the hardware that makes it better? While the SoC is faster, does it translate into realworld performance at all? Camera is about the same as any top Android phone. Storage is faster I'll give you that but again it doesn't seem to show much in real use. Less RAM on all iPhone models than midrange Android phones. More display bezels even on the iPhone X and display quality is better on some Samsungs afaik. Display resolution is lower than Android flagships but still sufficient. Cell reception seems to depend on which modem you got on the X at least.

I just don't feel like there is anything to the iPhone hardware that makes it stand out from much cheaper Android phones.
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one thing i have yet to find on any Android phone is a keyboard as good as the one on my iphones. I can type like a madman on my iphone and the keyboard is not perfect but really close. I have tried multiple keyboards on my Android phones and nothing compares yet. The spell correction and predictive words are top notch.... i make fewer mistakes somehow.

While I really like the Apple keyboard for English, it is just awful for many other languages. It's 2017 and my language, Finnish, still has no autocorrection or prediction. So on my iPad Pro I have to shuffle between iOS keyboard or Swiftkey/Gboard depending on which language I'm typing. On my Android phone I just use Swiftkey and it works a helluva lot better than on iOS while able to seamlessly work for both English and Finnish at the same time. The lack of prediction when typing in browser address bar is also a big minus for iOS keyboards.
 
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AustinIllini

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What is it about the hardware that makes it better? While the SoC is faster, does it translate into realworld performance at all? Camera is about the same as any top Android phone. Storage is faster I'll give you that but again it doesn't seem to show much in real use. Less RAM on all iPhone models than midrange Android phones. More display bezels even on the iPhone X and display quality is better on some Samsungs afaik. Display resolution is lower than Android flagships but still sufficient. Cell reception seems to depend on which modem you got on the X at least.
Most android phones are nice, but they all have shortcomings (except maybe Samsung on the hardware end).

Even the best phones on Android have major sacrifices. I've owned 5 Android devices and all of them have had terrible ambient light detection. The Nexus 5 cooked itself, the Nexus 6P had terrible network connectivity, the Pixel 2 XL had awful blue shift and image retention issues. These are the only "pure" android devices. Every single other model has software sacrifices to the point where any shortcoming is unacceptable.

It's written all over the boards here. The reality is, Apple is the best rounded software/hardware experience. The OLED on iPhone X is quite a bit better than any screen not sold on a Samsung phone with the OS the way the creator intended it.

It's not JUSt about performance, it has everything to do with reliability.
 

Jazzmin

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however one thing that is great about iphone is- the phone doesn't lag even after os updates.
androids do lack here. my phone had lollipop 2 months ago and ran really well on 2 gb ram. enough to play 1.5gb+ sized games without lags. i upgraded my OS to Noughat then. 2gb for noughat is quite slow. it lags as hell. with every new OS, you need more RAM every time. Android phones are made to last not more than a year or so.
 

jamezr

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however one thing that is great about iphone is- the phone doesn't lag even after os updates.
androids do lack here. my phone had lollipop 2 months ago and ran really well on 2 gb ram. enough to play 1.5gb+ sized games without lags. i upgraded my OS to Noughat then. 2gb for noughat is quite slow. it lags as hell. with every new OS, you need more RAM every time. Android phones are made to last not more than a year or so.
My iPad Air 2 dies after IOS 11..... luckily I was able to roll it back to IOS 10.3.3 and it run smoothly again now. But now I get reminded that I have a software update. I get prompted to update the software daily......
 

lowendlinux

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however one thing that is great about iphone is- the phone doesn't lag even after os updates.
androids do lack here. my phone had lollipop 2 months ago and ran really well on 2 gb ram. enough to play 1.5gb+ sized games without lags. i upgraded my OS to Noughat then. 2gb for noughat is quite slow. it lags as hell. with every new OS, you need more RAM every time. Android phones are made to last not more than a year or so.
Yet here I am on Oreo using only about a gig
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jmckever

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If I block a contact/number on iOS, it also puts their VMs in the ‘blocked’ section under VM and there is no notification.. However, when doing the same in Android, I still get their VM notifications (until I manually delete that VM or listen to it ) and drives me crazy!
yes thats one thing about a iphone that i like once they are blocked ,they are blocked.android you can go back and read the messages and voicemail.oh and iphone doesnt come with tons of useless bloatware
 
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