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ChazUK

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Yay

You've just done the same thing that my Navigon GPS would do. Calculating how long it takes from point A to point B isn't that difficult.

You're trumping a feature that really isn't that cool. I can do this on my own easily. Not groundbreaking

It wouldn't hurt to understand what you're trying to belittle before trying to belittle it.
 

batting1000

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Well if you don't have anything scheduled, then it won't know you have something scheduled. Now something like work, you don't have to schedule, it learns that on it's own. As for meetings, if you schedule the meeting (I use exchange), then your phone will know about it. When I put the meeting in my calendar on the computer, since I use exchange it shows up in my phone (which it would do that if I were using Google's calendar too). Then when it comes close to time for the meeting it will starting checking routes and let you know when to leave.

But it won't tell you when to leave UNTIL it learns your route which could take a few trips back and forth.
 

nuckinfutz

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It wouldn't hurt to understand what you're trying to belittle before trying to belittle it.

My Navigon gives me an ETA the minute my GPS starts. What Google is doing is calculating the time based on the route and adding that to an event. It's not rocket science folks. I can do that in my head in 5 seconds.

Trying to promote this as some amazing feature is boorish.
 

ChazUK

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But it won't tell you when to leave UNTIL it learns your route which could take a few trips back and forth.

It knows the route based on the destination address in the calendar entry.

Close to appointment time
Check destination
Check traffic
Calculate route
Warn user before hand if traffic is bad.
 

batting1000

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It knows the route based on the destination address in the calendar entry.

Close to appointment time
Check destination
Check traffic
Calculate route
Warn user before hand if traffic is bad.

I never said anything about a calendar entry. That requires me to add a calendar entry which I can forget to do.
 

ChazUK

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My Navigon gives me an ETA the minute my GPS starts. What Google is doing is calculating the time based on the route and adding that to an event. It's not rocket science folks. I can do that in my head in 5 seconds.

Trying to promote this as some amazing feature is boorish.

Whatever works best for you I guess.

Automatically checking destinations from your work or personal calendar and factoring travel conditions prior to a meeting or event taking place is quite innovative in my eyes.

Different strokes for different folk and all that.

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I never said anything about a calendar entry. That requires me to add a calendar entry which I can forget to do.

I often receive exchange and personal meeting requests/appointments which populate in my calendars. Nothing manually added by me at all.

You obviously use your smartphone differently to me.
 

nuckinfutz

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ChazUK

I'm simply coming from the perspective that I want my computing devices to do the things that I cannot do well and leave the stuff I can do well.

I want my computers to make me better. To each their own. This may be a great feature but to me it's simply doing something that I can do on my own with enough accuracy.

This thread stated this was a reason why Google is now the best and some of us disagree.
 

The iGentleman

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But it won't tell you when to leave UNTIL it learns your route which could take a few trips back and forth.

Maybe you didn't read my response to you before. If you have an appointment scheduled it doesn't have to learn the route. It calculates the best route automatically.

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Whatever works best for you I guess.

Automatically checking destinations from your work or personal calendar and factoring travel conditions prior to a meeting or event taking place is quite innovative in my eyes.

Different strokes for different folk and all that.
I wouldn't pay him any mind, he's obviously reaching...big time. For him to even hint that a gps does the same thing is asinine at best.



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I often receive exchange and personal meeting requests/appointments which populate in my calendars. Nothing manually added by me at all.

You obviously use your smartphone differently to me.[/QUOTE]
EXACTLY! Same here. Often times, I don't have to put my meetings in my phone, the request comes in and it's added.
 

ChazUK

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This thread stated this was a reason why Google is now the best and some of us disagree.

I don't think it is "the best" either but when using my GSIII instead of my Nexus, I do miss the features that Google Now have bought.

It could turn us into even lazier smartphone users and when it does go wrong (which it inevitably will) we'll only have ourselves to blame!
 

The iGentleman

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I never said anything about a calendar entry. That requires me to add a calendar entry which I can forget to do.

How else will the phone know you have a meeting scheduled if you don't input it at some point in time. The point of it is, the data is in the phone and your phone knows what to do with the data to help you out. Not putting your meetings in the phone is like not telling your secretary you have a 3:00 scheduled then getting mad at her when she doesn't have the refreshments ready at 3:00. If she doesn't know about then she can prepare for it.

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ChazUK

I'm simply coming from the perspective that I want my computing devices to do the things that I cannot do well and leave the stuff I can do well.

I want my computers to make me better. To each their own. This may be a great feature but to me it's simply doing something that I can do on my own with enough accuracy.

This thread stated this was a reason why Google is now the best and some of us disagree.

The problem is, your basis for disagreement is, for lack of a better term, stupid. Your whole stance is a GPS can do that which it cannot. You still never did provide me the model of this GPS of the future that can let you know about delays ahead of time before you even input your data, and let's you know that you need to leave early if there's a delay. I'm still waiting on you to give me that gps model... :rolleyes:
 

ChazUK

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How else will the phone know you have a meeting scheduled if you don't input it at some point in time. The point of it is, the data is in the phone and your phone knows what to do with the data to help you out. Not putting your meetings in the phone is like not telling your secretary you have a 3:00 scheduled then getting mad at her when she doesn't have the refreshments ready at 3:00. If she doesn't know about then she can prepare for it.

Perhaps she needs to learn your habits?:D ;) :p
 

The iGentleman

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My car warns me of traffic and re routes if need be :D:D:D

Of course that's once you're actually in the car, and have begun. The whole point of this is that you get this information before the delay has affected you, and are advised ahead of time so that you are aware of the time it will take BEFORE it's too late. By the time I get in the car, if there is a delay on the route, it may be too late for me to make that time up. There may not be a way around that delay that will save time. I'd much rather know about it beforehand so I can leave out early enough to account for the delay. Here in Atlanta, sometimes a delay can set you back an hour in the morning. If there's an hour delay on the road, it would help to know about it well in advance.
 

zbarvian

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Can we all settle on this being a cool, useful new feature of Android? Some of the rebuttals in here are just ridiculous.
 

knucklehead

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The problem is, your basis for disagreement is, for lack of a better term, stupid. Your whole stance is a GPS can do that which it cannot. You still never did provide me the model of this GPS of the future that can let you know about delays ahead of time before you even input your data, and let's you know that you need to leave early if there's a delay. I'm still waiting on you to give me that gps model... :rolleyes:

I believe he said "Navigon", which is an app I also own -- in the present, and for some time now. Like many other GPS's, it can provide an ETA based on _current_ traffic data.

I believe his point, is that he is a big boy, and is capable, and in the good habit of, checking this for himself for appointments. Who knows ... he might actually wipe his butt all by himself too ...

Not saying this isn't a "neat" feature, but I think you missed his point of some poeples sense of it's importance in the overall scheme of things.

PS - I think people here are putting a bit too much weight on just how accurate traffic data can be "predicted". There are many ways that for that to go wrong.
 

John.B

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Can we all settle on this being a cool, useful new feature of Android?

Sure, if the OP changes the thread title to "This is Another Reason Google Now is Cool" or "Check Out This New Navigation Feature". But that's not what he said.

Some of the rebuttals in here are just ridiculous.

To me, this is a gee-whiz feature that doesn't come close to overriding all the annoyances I have with my work Android phone. Sorry if you find that "ridiculous". If it bothers you that much, maybe you can take it to the AndroidRumors forum?
 

urkel

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Wow. Its really amazing how some people will try to downplay a feature simply because Apple didn't make it. Cool Features aren't an Apple exclusive.
 

Sensamic

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My hope is that Google updates the new Google Now and Voice Search the same way the do with their other apps as YouTube and Maps: via the Play Store.

Siri, on the other hand, needs to wait for each iOS update to receive new features.

It would be very cool if Google Now and Voice Search receive updates during the year to add functionality.
 

jeffe

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But it won't tell you when to leave UNTIL it learns your route which could take a few trips back and forth.

Hi batting, It will tell you when to leave if you tell it you need to be somewhere by a certain time. If it just knows you like to go somewhere out of habit, then it will just keep you notified of how long the commute time will be. It won't tell you when to leave unless you tell it you need to be somewhere at a certain time.
 

batting1000

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Hi batting, It will tell you when to leave if you tell it you need to be somewhere by a certain time. If it just knows you like to go somewhere out of habit, then it will just keep you notified of how long the commute time will be. It won't tell you when to leave unless you tell it you need to be somewhere at a certain time.

So if I went to work at 8am every day and I wanted to be notified of traffic / when to leave every day, I'd have to put a calendar event in for every single day? Not very intuitive if you ask me.
 

fox10078

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So if I went to work at 8am every day and I wanted to be notified of traffic / when to leave every day, I'd have to put a calendar event in for every single day? Not very intuitive if you ask me.

Jesus man this is pretty simple.

You go to work EVERYDAY, it learns that you go to work everyday, it will tell you traffic before you leave at 8AM, you can specify your work address so it knows for sure the address or you can let it learn on its own.

If you have a meeting along your day in your calendar with an Address it will tell you the traffic on the way when it's close to the meeting.

I'm not sure if your being purposefully obtuse, or what cause this has been explained many times throughout the thread.
 

batting1000

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Jesus man this is pretty simple.

You go to work EVERYDAY, it learns that you go to work everyday, it will tell you traffic before you leave at 8AM, you can specify your work address so it knows for sure the address or you can let it learn on its own.

If you have a meeting along your day in your calendar with an Address it will tell you the traffic on the way when it's close to the meeting.

I'm not sure if your being purposefully obtuse, or what cause this has been explained many times throughout the thread.

Gotcha, wasn't sure.
 
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