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batting1000

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But you do have an excuse for everything and you just said what you cant accept. iOS is a great device and ive always said that and some things it does do better. It just doesnt do enough and Android has caught up and surpassed in some aspects. THAT, you cant accept and always have a reason why Android isnt better at it.

I am not a diehard Android lover. I like it now as the best device and i love my GS3. Will be even better when it gets JB.
It is as big as i want to go and really could be a tad smaller but i can work it just fine. The iPhone IMO is still going to be too small. It should be at least a 4.3" in screen size if not 4.5". If they go to that size and get better notifications ansd more open, i may someday go back but it just seems that Android makes more progress every year so i dont see Apple catching up.

I can't deny Android does more because it's quite conspicuous that it does, but I like iOS more because of the apps, polish, speed, ease of use, customer support, and updates and that's that.

My point is that when people come on here saying "switched back from the GS3" and then they list reasons, you guys are quick to come here and rebutt what they said that they didn't like or w/e. "Why didn't you try this keyboard or that launcher or this widget?" The fact is the person didn't like whatever it was and it's irritating to see people that can't accept that sort of stuff.
 

nickchallis92

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Who knows if it ever will. Samsung has S-Voice and I don't think they'd give that app after less than a year. If you want Google Now now, you have to root your device. :rolleyes:

I take the point that people might be concerned about that, but I can't see that happening. it's not like s-voice has been a bit hit (and rightly so). Plus, samsung are quite pally with the android community so I don't think they'd do that.

Tbh, chances are they'll co-exist
 

Vegastouch

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I can't deny Android does more because it's quite conspicuous that it does, but I like iOS more because of the apps, polish, speed, ease of use, customer support, and updates and that's that.

My point is that when people come on here saying "switched back from the GS3" and then they list reasons, you guys are quick to come here and rebutt what they said that they didn't like or w/e. "Why didn't you try this keyboard or that launcher or this widget?" The fact is the person didn't like whatever it was and it's irritating to see people that can't accept that sort of stuff.

We say that because it is obvious they didnt try any others because they say they didnt like the stock keyboard and one of the things that makes Android great is choice. And on that list there were things he didnt like so we told him how to fix it and he made a decision while not knowing about those things. He spent years with an iPhone and one week with the GS3.

Like i told that guy who started the thread, i used an iPhone for two years and when i switched, i was on and off with my iPhone for a few weeks til i finally put it down for good. Android is very different and it takes some time to get used to it and know how to work it. As you go along, you discover more things and some apps that dont exist in iTunes and some of those are actually really good. Hec it took me a while to get used to having actual home screens and seperate application screens instead of how it is on the iPhone. Now i think it is awesome.

No, you dont have notifications on the lock screen but there are apps(some are free, some are a couple bucks) to get them. So it is stock on the iPhone. Download an app for 10 seconds , tell it what to notify you on and your done.
Some people have a hard time being told to download an app when it is stock on the iPhone, yet DodgeV83 uses apps exclusively to tell us why the iPhone is better, with all his 30 camera apps which in his opinion makes his camera better than ours because of it.

So its all what works for you. You like the simplicity of the iPhone. I get that. I like being able to do more things and options. I love the external micro slot. I dont stream my Music or Movies. I have Google music and rarely use it because it takes up data. I deleted Pandora as well and id rather play it from my micro card which helps keep my cost down by using less data and only needing the 2GB instead of the 5GB.

That is kinda of a big deal for me to have that option otherwise id love the One X as well, but that was a deal breaker.
I could just load the music and movies on my internal card too but i can take out the micro card and put it in something else and it leaves more space on my internal card.

I actually dont use voice actions asside from voice to text but with Google now i would use it more often since it does other things.
There are a lot of reasons to like the iPhone too but for me the screen is too small and it just doesnt do enough for my taste and i like the things Google has added to the table and they are progressing faster.
 
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Vegastouch

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Who knows if it ever will. Samsung has S-Voice and I don't think they'd give that app after less than a year. If you want Google Now now, you have to root your device. :rolleyes:

Its a part of JB, it will come with the update. Why would they leave one of their best upgrades, if not the best off an update? Ill just disable S Voice like i can right now when i get JB.
 

batting1000

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We say that because it is obvious they didnt try any others because they say they didnt like the stock keyboard and one of the things that makes Android great is choice. And on that list there were things he didnt like so we told him how to fix it and he made a decision while not knowing about those things. He spent years with an iPhone and one week with the GS3.

No, you dont have notifications on the lock screen but there are apps(some are free, some are a couple bucks) to get them. So it is stock on the iPhone. Download an app for 10 seconds , tell it what to notify you on and your done.
Some people have a hard time being told to download an app when it is stock on the iPhone, yet DodgeV83 uses apps exclusively to tell us why the iPhone is better, with all his 30 camera apps which in his opinion makes his camera better than ours because of it.

1. Again, if it's something they don't like, you shouldn't really being trying to force them to try stuff so they can like it. No one tried to force you back to iOS when you were starting out with the GS3.

2. Again, those apps don't put the notifications on the lock screen. The apps ARE an alternate lock screen because the stock lock screen doesn't allow for such features. While I'm not defending nor disagreeing with Dodge (who has absolutely nothing to do with this conversation so I'm not sure why he was brought up), I can say just because iOS doesn't have a feature built in but DOES have said feature in the form of a 3rd party app, doesn't automatically make Android better. The fact is you can obtain the functionality with a stock device so it can be compared.

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Its a part of JB, it will come with the update. Why would they leave one of their best upgrades, if not the best off an update? Ill just disable S Voice like i can right now when i get JB.

Well I don't know. Samsung didn't even add the ICS folders into the ICS update for the S2 or S3 so it makes me a bit skeptical.
 

Vegastouch

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1. Again, if it's something they don't like, you shouldn't really being trying to force them to try stuff so they can like it. No one tried to force you back to iOS when you were starting out with the GS3.

2. Again, those apps don't put the notifications on the lock screen. The apps ARE an alternate lock screen because the stock lock screen doesn't allow for such features. While I'm not defending nor disagreeing with Dodge (who has absolutely nothing to do with this conversation so I'm not sure why he was brought up), I can say just because iOS doesn't have a feature built in but DOES have said feature in the form of a 3rd party app, doesn't automatically make Android better. The fact is you can obtain the functionality with a stock device so it can be compared.

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Well I don't know. Samsung didn't even add the ICS folders into the ICS update for the S2 or S3 so it makes me a bit skeptical.

There is no way Google Now is going to get left off the update. It is a part of Android, not Samsung, and again, Samsung gave you the option to disable S-Voice on the phone as well as some other things that Samsung put on there.
 

Sensamic

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Here's a perfect example. Sensamic can't accept the fact that just because HE doesn't like iOS 6 or thinks features are "too late", doesn't mean everyone dones. I don't care who you poll or who you ask about, but if you're gonna try to go around and post as though you're trying to dissuade people from using a certain platform because of your opinions and preconceived notions, you shouldn't really be here. The fact that you're saying iOS is too late is funny when the Nexus S was the first NFC Android device (every manufacturer that released an NFC device after the Nexus was too late as well, same with all the other features).

Again, the fact that you're going around talking all this nonsense is rather irritating.

Anyways...

Very funny to see you saying the SGS3 probably won't get Google now...

Very funny. Like Samsung would disable 4.1 biggest feature to upset every one of its customers.

You know what's irritating? You saying we need to root to get Google now... ugh.

IOS users are the ones who need to jailbreak to get siri. Love that much Apple? Then jailbreak to get siri because we won't need to root to get Google now.

And I'm not trying to dissuade anyone dude. Chill out. My God... I'm just stating my opinions.

You need to take a valium. If you're happy with iOS then great! I will keep saying it's outdated, but unlike you, I'm very calmed.
 

batting1000

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There is no way Google Now is going to get left off the update. It is a part of Android, not Samsung, and again, Samsung gave you the option to disable S-Voice on the phone.

So were the folders.

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You know what's irritating? You saying we need to root to get Google now... ugh.

IOS users are the ones who need to jailbreak to get siri. Love that much Apple? Then jailbreak to get siri because we won't need to root to get Google now.

1. Ok, tell me how to get Google Now on a Droid Razr without rooting.

2. It's all marketing. It doesn't bother me because I've got a 4S.

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And I'm not trying to dissuade anyone dude. Chill out. My God... I'm just stating my opinions.

You need to take a valium. If you're happy with iOS then great! I will keep saying it's outdated, but unlike you, I'm very calmed.


Lol ok, go ahead.
 

Sensamic

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So were the folders.

What? Excuse me?

Just realized you're right. I don't have folders on my SGS3.........

Samsung has their own way of doing folders, which is part of their touchwiz customization. We do have folders!

Now your just making things up and it's completely embarrassing. Like everyone else says:

You make up excuses for everything.

How sad to say we don't have folders. Unbelievable...
 

batting1000

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What? Excuse me?

Just realized you're right. I don't have folders on my SGS3.........

Samsung had their own way of doing folders, which is part of their touchwiz customization. We do have folders!

Now your just making things up and it's completely embarrassing. Looks everyone else says:

You make up excuses for everything.

How sad to say we don't have folders. Unbelievable...

Ok then. Show me how to make a folder on the Galaxy S3 launcher by dragging one icon over the other like stock ICS. Man, you just assume too much. How could ANYONE possibly deny the that Touchwiz has folders?
 

jeffe

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Ok then. Show me how to make a folder on the Galaxy S3 launcher by dragging one icon over the other like stock ICS. Man, you just assume too much. How could ANYONE possibly deny the that Touchwiz has folders?

What is the point of this conversation again?
 

mcman77

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You know what happened the other day? Google Now somehow worked out the location of my work and I have never been prompted for it - It was accurate... actually a little creepy :D

It also worked out that I was on the bus i get to that work address and provided me with an ETA mid journey with no input from myself.

I thought this feature was only for the US?

Does it also prompt public transport info? Like bus arrivals etc.

And yes it is creepy!! I thought I was the only one.
 

Sensamic

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Ok then. Show me how to make a folder on the Galaxy S3 launcher by dragging one icon over the other like stock ICS. Man, you just assume too much. How could ANYONE possibly deny the that Touchwiz has folders?

I'll do something better for you.

Something touchwiz has that stock Android doesn't. When I create a folder, inside it there's an icon with a + that lets you select multiple apps to move them all at once inside the folder, kind of like multi icon mover in cydia.

Now that's a really really useful feature touchwiz has that Android does not (or at least that I know of).

This is just another of the many examples iOS could learn from. I have like 200 apps in iTunes and I remember the pain of moving the apps to folders one by one. Even in iTunes it has to be one by one.

Tell me something. Shouldn't a feature like this had been added to iOS like a long time ago? We're already on iOS 6.

This kind of stupid little details, along with 12 app limitation per folder, is irritating.

And if you want to create folders in the stock Android way, nova launcher and apex launcher allow this.

That's Android: if you want to create folders like the stock way you can.
 

batting1000

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What is the point of this conversation again?

I was pointing out how Samsung left out the new Android 4.0 folders feature in their Touchwiz skin on ICS devices as Vegastouch had asked how Samsung could leave out a major feature in JB like Google Now. (The folders weren't major but still one of the new / talked about features in ICS. Of course Touchwiz has folders, I'm not denying that. I was talking about the how Samsung did not add the ICS folders as in dragging and dropping an icon over another to create one like iOS.) Sensamic seems to think I'm denying that the GS# has folders.

"New home screen folders offer a new way for you to group your apps and shortcuts logically, just by dragging one onto another." (http://www.android.com/about/ice-cream-sandwich/)
 

jeffe

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I was pointing out how Samsung left out the new Android 4.0 folders feature in their Touchwiz skin on ICS devices as Vegastouch had asked how Samsung could leave out a major feature in JB like Google Now. (The folders weren't major but still one of the new / talked about features in ICS. Of course Touchwiz has folders, I'm not denying that. I was talking about the how Samsung did not add the ICS folders as in dragging and dropping an icon over another to create one like iOS.)

"New home screen folders offer a new way for you to group your apps and shortcuts logically, just by dragging one onto another." (http://www.android.com/about/ice-cream-sandwich/)

Oh well Touchwiz is more than just a skin. It is a replacement launcher and the launcher controls the behavior of the homescreen and how folders behave on them.

Does it matter if they implemented folders differently than the AOSP launcher?
 

Vegastouch

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1. Again, if it's something they don't like, you shouldn't really being trying to force them to try stuff so they can like it. No one tried to force you back to iOS when you were starting out with the GS3.

2. Again, those apps don't put the notifications on the lock screen. The apps ARE an alternate lock screen because the stock lock screen doesn't allow for such features. While I'm not defending nor disagreeing with Dodge (who has absolutely nothing to do with this conversation so I'm not sure why he was brought up), I can say just because iOS doesn't have a feature built in but DOES have said feature in the form of a 3rd party app, doesn't automatically make Android better. The fact is you can obtain the functionality with a stock device so it can be compared.

Getting back to this:

1. I didnt try to force anything on him. I was just letting him know there are other options. When you are with a device for years and you have so many options on something else, maybe you dont know you have them when you say you didnt like the stock keyboard.

2. Yes they do...even if they arent the stock lockscreen. It is a lockscreen with notifications so who cares if they arent the stock lockscreen if they do what you want them to? You can use one of their lockscreen backgrounds or use one of your own.
I havent tried them so i really dont know what all your options are...and neither do you.
As for Dodge, i brought him up for the reason i stated in the last post. Thought the example was pretty clear and i gave the other guy an option to obtain something that would make it better. Its ok for Dodge but not for me or anybody else?
 

Sensamic

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I was pointing out how Samsung left out the new Android 4.0 folders feature in their Touchwiz skin on ICS devices as Vegastouch had asked how Samsung could leave out a major feature in JB like Google Now. (The folders weren't major but still one of the new / talked about features in ICS. Of course Touchwiz has folders, I'm not denying that. I was talking about the how Samsung did not add the ICS folders as in dragging and dropping an icon over another to create one like iOS.) Sensamic seems to think I'm denying that the GS# has folders.

"New home screen folders offer a new way for you to group your apps and shortcuts logically, just by dragging one onto another." (http://www.android.com/about/ice-cream-sandwich/)

So you have the 4S and you don't care we iPhone 4 owners didn't get siri after only one year...

Let's do a recap again, because I think it's worth it:

You say we may need to root to get Google now, but the only time something like that has happened to me was having the iPhone 4 and needing to jailbreak to get siri.

How ironic, isn't it?

The very same thing you bash about Samsung is what Apple just did a mere 10 months ago, but hey, I guess it's justified, because like you said: it was due to marketing.

Someone should come and see this...
 

einmusiker

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Oh I'm sorry I guess my time isn't valuable, according to what you just said.....oh brother.

And where do you live where you have no traffic at 8am? That's right towards the beginning of rush hour. Either way, common sense still tells you that things happen on the road, accidents, traffic, construction, detours. If it takes 30 minutes to drive somewhere you don't leave 30 minutes ahead of time.

You seem defensive. I didn't mean to insult you if I did. And for someone who doesn't have any spare time, why are you posting on a forum? Doesn't add up.

EDIT: My apologies thought you were talking AM. Even though I still leave 15 minutes early at least no matter where I go, I hate being late....either way sorry for the mix up. Like I said that's pretty cool. Although I don't think a feature like this deserves the title of this thread. Sort of seems like you just want to stir the pot.

I'm not surprised your banned
 

Vegastouch

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Ok then. Show me how to make a folder on the Galaxy S3 launcher by dragging one icon over the other like stock ICS. Man, you just assume too much. How could ANYONE possibly deny the that Touchwiz has folders?

I created a folder and drug those apps in it.

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Click folder, there ya go.

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OR

Drag and stack

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