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jamezr

macrumors P6
Aug 7, 2011
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Short and sweet.

I'm almost certain I'll sell mine in a week or two. Aside from camera niggles, I miss split screen apps and fast charging a lot amongst other features.

I never thought I'd be that bothered but if I forget to charge overnight, I'm screwed for the next day as 20 minutes will only get about 15% top up. Then it's portable charger time or leaving it on the desk and being away from it. And it charges mega slow if the screen is on.

So, this supposed mid-September update needs to be outstanding or it'll be to the kerb.

After the operational cockups this time, I sense people losing faith in OnePlus and will just simply go Moto or elsewhere next time.
Last year they got a pass because they were new and had growing pains. Now they had a year to sort their business out and came back to the table with the same problems. Now the flagship killer is not so much anymore spec wise. I see them fading into a black hole the next couple of years. Or morph into a flash sale overseas product only.
 
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spriter

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May 13, 2004
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Last year they got a pass because they were new and had growing pains. Now they had a year to sort their business out and came back to the table with the same problems. Now the flagship killer is not so much anymore spec wise. I see them fading into a black hole the next couple of years. Or morph into a flash sale overseas product only.
Yeah, if they trot out the Flagship killer next year I'll be very surprised. No way you can spec a phone to rival the heavy hitters and sell it for less than half... unless you wanna make a loss. Then again, maybe they are that ignorant and stupid.
 
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epicrayban

macrumors 604
Nov 7, 2014
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Wow... after researching, there is little to no reason to get this over the new Moto X.

Going to pass on that invite...
 

jamezr

macrumors P6
Aug 7, 2011
16,074
19,069
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In typical OPO fashion...got a notice last night that my OPO2 will be delivered today by DHL.
Didn't get any other notice from them about shipping or anything from OPO just from DHL.
Ordered on Sept 2nd and delivered on Sept 11th.
 

ipodlover77

macrumors 65816
Jan 17, 2009
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Yikes. Glad I unloaded my oneplus two yesterday. In one day, swappa went from having 5 on sale to 72.
 

daneoni

macrumors G4
Mar 24, 2006
11,843
1,577
Got mine on friday. Not a bad phone. Solid hardware but software can be twitchy sometimes. Its probably the best bang for buck smartphone in the UK...if you can get one. Followed by the Moto X Play.

Lack of NFC no big for me. USB-C a mild annoyance. Shame it doesn't work with my headunit but i feared as much...AUX cable instead.

Probably won't be keeping it but i don't hate the device from my experiences thus far. And it is superior to the original OPO IMHO.
 
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three

Cancelled
Jan 22, 2008
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Got mine of friday. Not a bad phone. Solid hardware but software can be twitchy sometimes. Its probably the best bang for buck smartphone in the UK...if you can get one. Followed by the Moto X Play.

Lack of NFC no big for me. USB-C a mild annoyance. Shame it doesn't work with my headunit but i feared as much...AUX cable instead.

Probably won't be keeping it but i don't hate the device from my experiences thus far. And it is superior to the original OPO IMHO.

Thanks for the review! What's your daily driver?
 

joshwithachance

macrumors 68020
Dec 11, 2009
2,104
1,320
Honestly not a bad phone in the slightest. Is it perfect? No. But it offers immense bang for your buck at $389 for 4GB of RAM, solid cameras, powerful processor, excellent build quality, beautiful screen. The biggest flaw is getting an invite (and the lack of NFC if you're into that).
 

ipodlover77

macrumors 65816
Jan 17, 2009
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In typical OPO fashion...got a notice last night that my OPO2 will be delivered today by DHL.
Didn't get any other notice from them about shipping or anything from OPO just from DHL.
Ordered on Sept 2nd and delivered on Sept 11th.

jamezr, what are your thoughts on the phone? I've been waiting for days to see a post! ha.
 

jamezr

macrumors P6
Aug 7, 2011
16,074
19,069
US
jamezr, what are your thoughts on the phone? I've been waiting for days to see a post! ha.
Sorry! I like the phone it has great build quality and fit and finish.
I like OxygenOS and think it has potential. No bloat or carrier software of course. It is like stock Android but more like CyanogenMod tbh.

I ordered the US version and it came with a dual sim. Not really sure why. Thought that was just for overseas markets.

The phone is very fast and fluid....can't beat it for the price.
I do think the camera is slow to focus. But the pictures are very nice.
Overall speed and performance is up there with most flagship phones.
I haven't had any lag or stutters.
I haven't tested the fingerprint scanner yet.
 

c0ppo

macrumors 68000
Feb 11, 2013
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3,268
Ok, just played around with OP2 for a hole day. Friend bought one, and I took it from him for a day.
I have to say that the phone simply feels great in the hand. Mute switch is awesome, very useful. Screen is pretty good, better then I really expected. Of course, not Samsung Amoled or iPhone quality, but still pretty damn good. I would give it 8.5/10. Better then LG G3 imho. A lot better, especially on the outdoors.

Software is pretty fluid, phone simply rocks in that department. I haven't noticed any lag or stutter. None what so ever. In that department, this phone beats any Samsung phone. Any day of the week. That's why I was interested in it in the first place.

I can't say much about camera tough, since camera plays no role in my decision. Tried it out, and far better then expected. Can't really compare it to other phones, since I'm really not interested in cameras, and I'm a complete camera noob. But I will compare it to OPO, it has way better camera then OPO.

But...
If I don't get a invite by the end of the next week, I will give up on this phone. Considered buying it from webshops, but those are chinese versions, and they lack some support for EU. I saw a lot of problems with chinese phones on EU market, so I gave up on that option.

If I don't get my invite, I'm gonna stick with G3 and iPhone 5s. G3 is still an excellent phone, and I will try to get OP2 EU version at january 2016.

If I could buy one straight from them, I would buy instantly. But as everyone knows, that's impossible. So they are loosing customers like this, and it seems as they don't care at all. But if anyone has any doubts and they have an invite... Buy it. Try it out. Even if you don't like it, you can sell it pretty easily. But somehow I think those who won't like this phone will be in minority :)
 

three

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Jan 22, 2008
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Sorry! I like the phone it has great build quality and fit and finish.
I like OxygenOS and think it has potential. No bloat or carrier software of course. It is like stock Android but more like CyanogenMod tbh.

I ordered the US version and it came with a dual sim. Not really sure why. Thought that was just for overseas markets.

The phone is very fast and fluid....can't beat it for the price.
I do think the camera is slow to focus. But the pictures are very nice.
Overall speed and performance is up there with most flagship phones.
I haven't had any lag or stutters.
I haven't tested the fingerprint scanner yet.

I'll second what jamezr has to say! My OnePlus 2 arrived yesterday and my feelings are mostly the same for the phone. I'm really liking it and it's so far, been a worthwhile upgrade to my OnePlus One.

I LOVE my OnePlus 2.
 
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Tsepz

macrumors 601
Jan 24, 2013
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Honestly not a bad phone in the slightest. Is it perfect? No. But it offers immense bang for your buck at $389 for 4GB of RAM, solid cameras, powerful processor, excellent build quality, beautiful screen. The biggest flaw is getting an invite (and the lack of NFC if you're into that).
A major thing for me is Fast Charging. I can go to sleep and for get to charge my Note 4 at 30% battery, wake up the next morning, realise my error, put it on charge while I get ready, and within 45min to an hour of charging its at 100% and ready for the day. Same with if I have had a long day and plan on going out that nite, get home, my Note 4 is at like 60%, but I want a full charge as I may take many pics, vids and use it for Uber, so I put it on charge for like 20mins and its at 100% by the time I leave.

IMO, the lack of fast charging is a major omission.
 

maflynn

macrumors Haswell
May 3, 2009
73,682
43,740
Looks like Pei shot himself in the foot once again. I think the invitation system is aggravating as it is, couple that with poor product planning, i.e., inventory and it just pours salt in the wound.

I can see using the invitation system for an initial rollout but this is the second phone, they should know how to estimate demand at this point.
 
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Tsepz

macrumors 601
Jan 24, 2013
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Johannesburg, South Africa
Looks like Pei shot himself in the foot once again. I think the invitation system is aggravating as it is, couple that with poor product planning, i.e., inventory and it just pours salt in the wound.

I can see using the invitation system for an initial rollout but this is the second phone, they should know how to estimate demand at this point.
The invitation type system would make more sense if they were selling a luxury phone with sapphire glass, all types of leather trim, custom engraving and so on, but they aren't.

If he wants to make this system work they must get production & distribution on tight lock OR add custom stuff you can do to your OnePlus to make it worth the wait.
 

spriter

macrumors 65816
May 13, 2004
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A major thing for me is Fast Charging. I can go to sleep and for get to charge my Note 4 at 30% battery, wake up the next morning, realise my error, put it on charge while I get ready, and within 45min to an hour of charging its at 100% and ready for the day. Same with if I have had a long day and plan on going out that nite, get home, my Note 4 is at like 60%, but I want a full charge as I may take many pics, vids and use it for Uber, so I put it on charge for like 20mins and its at 100% by the time I leave.

IMO, the lack of fast charging is a major omission.
This was probably my biggest miss rather than NFC. Once you've had fast charging, it's very difficult to go back. Often I have 10-15 minutes and it did next to nothing on the OP2.
Looks like Pei shot himself in the foot once again. I think the invitation system is aggravating as it is, couple that with poor product planning, i.e., inventory and it just pours salt in the wound.

I can see using the invitation system for an initial rollout but this is the second phone, they should know how to estimate demand at this point.
Couldn't agree more. This is a team that used to work for Oppo, albeit in a different capacity, and who now uses Oppo's production facilities.

If not Pei himself, then his Ops Director needs firing. It's all about simple numbers: they know how many they make in a week; they know shipping times to regions; they know delivery times to residential areas. It's inconceivable that you can't give a customer an accurate delivery date in this day and age. This is also evidenced in China's weekly flash sales: they have a production figure and sell the same volume. No reason that wouldn't work elsewhere. Except for... Air freight.

The other problem with wasting time so far is that now we're approaching shopping season/Christmas and the big hitters are releasing phones so production facilities, and ground and air freight out of China is much more expensive (we know Apple buys priority air freight for the iPhone) so either OnePlus kill their already razor thin margin or kick orders back weeks whilst they wait in line to get things shipped out. Which obviously annoys customers who just go elsewhere (Hello Moto).

They have stock. They're controlling supply by prioritising China now more than ever. Early orders were delivered within a few days to a week. Now they're saying 1-3 weeks. Sorry, but a two week variance in operational terms is a lifetime and doesn't say much about your supply chain management (other than it's inefficient and unpredictable).
 

diamond.g

macrumors G4
Mar 20, 2007
11,438
2,666
OBX
Since they are using SnapDragon for the device, is the quick charge 2.0 feature set there just not enabled? Or are they using an alternate charging IC?
 

MRU

macrumors Penryn
Aug 23, 2005
25,370
8,952
a better place
Since they are using SnapDragon for the device, is the quick charge 2.0 feature set there just not enabled? Or are they using an alternate charging IC?

It appears to be a hardware difference hence can not be added via software update unfortunately.
 
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