This makes me sick.

[Bahroo]

I remember when Jobs was alive. I knew that the iPhone warranted top dollar. Now not so such. If apple don't beat these specs. iPhone 6 will be my last iPhone. Check out this crap from motorola. I guess I'm just jealous.

http://www.dailytech.com/199+Motoro...+Battery+Life+52+QHD+Display/article36794.htm

Besides the battery life and screen, nothing else standa out to me on this phone, the 805 is slower then the Apple A8 and the Adreno 420 at quad HD resolutions give noticeably worse performance then the 6 Plus and 6. There is virtually no difference between quad HD and full 1080p.

The 21 megapixel camera doesnt mean its the best, megapixels are 1/5th of a overall image quality really, the Xperia Z3 has a 20.7 megapixel Exymos sensor and doesnt produce as good photos and videos as the Plus and 6, this is exactly what the spec sheet is suppose to look like , beyond incredible on paper, in reality not so, but the battery life and screen do look great

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nah more like android has the better specs, real personal computing, but garbage physical design and resell.

Better specs lol? The iPad Air 2 is the fastest tablet in the world right now that uses ARM chip and offers the fastest ARM SoC on the planet right now in any mobile device using ARM, and it comes from the iOS camp

The iPhone 6 and 6 Plus outperform the Snapdragon 805 found in the Note 4 and Nexus 6 and this phone, so your point and post is actually wrong and incorrect

 

[AdonisSMU]

AMOLED displays are nice. However, the downsides out weight the benefits.

 

[willmtaylor]

Really OP? That's what makes you sick? There's so many other important things going on in the world that deserve attention. Who cares if your phone doesn't have the best specs.

It's an iPhone forum on a Mac rumors website. May I ask what you were expecting? Honestly, there's nothing on here that isn't trivial and subjective, so why bring that up at all?

 

[kepler20b]

Besides the battery life and screen, nothing else standa out to me on this phone, the 805 is slower then the Apple A8 and the Adreno 420 at quad HD resolutions give noticeably worse performance then the 6 Plus and 6. There is virtually no difference between quad HD and full 1080p.

The 21 megapixel camera doesnt mean its the best, megapixels are 1/5th of a overall image quality really, the Xperia Z3 has a 20.7 megapixel Exymos sensor and doesnt produce as good photos and videos as the Plus and 6, this is exactly what the spec sheet is suppose to look like , beyond incredible on paper, in reality not so, but the battery life and screen do look great

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Better specs lol? The iPad Air 2 is the fastest tablet in the world right now that uses ARM chip and offers the fastest ARM SoC on the planet right now in any mobile device using ARM, and it comes from the iOS camp

The iPhone 6 and 6 Plus outperform the Snapdragon 805 found in the Note 4 and Nexus 6 and this phone, so your point and post is actually wrong and incorrect

stop drinking the synthetic benchmark koolaid that anandtech pushes out there. It means nothing to me because they dont measure real life performance.


If I want a 16:9 tablet for home media, I go to android because it is unbeatable. I dont have to jump through hoops to get a movie playing on my tablet. Nor if I want to sync that movie to my TV from my tablet, I similarly dont have to jump through holes. Either I have chromecast, or I dont. Either I have the right HDMI cable, or I dont; it is truly plug and play.

Can your benchmarks measure that?

My samsung tablet lets me splitscreen youtube and a note taking app. Dialer and note taking app. music app and email app. email app and youtube. web browser and youtube.

Where in those benchmarks does it show me how much more efficient I am by not having to jump through windows to copy and paste something when I can literally do it all on 1 screen?

 

[bunnicula]

The best smartphone display on the market right now is AMOLED.

Errrr. No.

 

[miamialley]

I remember when Jobs was alive. I knew that the iPhone warranted top dollar. Now not so such. If apple don't beat these specs. iPhone 6 will be my last iPhone. Check out this crap from motorola. I guess I'm just jealous.

http://www.dailytech.com/199+Motoro...+Battery+Life+52+QHD+Display/article36794.htm

Fugly.

 

[scaredpoet]

The best smartphone display on the market right now is AMOLED.

Highly subjective. Some people think it's the best thing ever. Me, if Apple ever switches to AMOLED, I'm going to have to switch platforms. There is something about that ghastly greenish hue that AMOLED displays emit that literally make me feel sick (as in, nauseous) if I stare too long. And not just the overdramatic sick that OP claims he is over a bunch of numbers on paper.

I wish I knew what it was that did it and how to stop it, because apparently people who love AMOLEDs think they're the best things ever, and I'd really love to enjoy it as much as they do, but I just can't.

 

[geoff5093]

Highly subjective. Some people think it's the best thing ever. Me, if Apple ever switches to AMOLED, I'm going to have to switch platforms. There is something about that ghastly greenish hue that AMOLED displays emit that literally make me feel sick (as in, nauseous) if I stare too long. And not just the overdramatic sick that OP claims he is over a bunch of numbers on paper.

I wish I knew what it was that did it and how to stop it, because apparently people who love AMOLEDs think they're the best things ever, and I'd really love to enjoy it as much as they do, but I just can't.

What phone are you talking about? The new AMOLED phones these days don't have any tint to them. Just look at Samsung

 

[scaredpoet]

What phone are you talking about? The new AMOLED phones these days don't have any tint to them. Just look at Samsung

The Galaxy S3 through the S5 have always looked sickly green to me.

 

[ucfgrad93]

Specs ain't everything!

Agreed, specs are just one part of the package.

 

[kingofwale]

if Apple only listens to customers and STOP with the whole fixation on "thin"/"Air"

I would loooove an iPhone that is slightly thicker with bigger battery!

 

[kepler20b]

The Galaxy S3 through the S5 have always looked sickly green to me.

dont be so overdramatic.

anandtech doesnt say in so many words, they consider AMOLED superior

displaymate unequivocally states that AMOLED since s5 has been superior in every scientific facet.


and to avoid the fanboys from spamming their emails and bugging them, they even split their awards to LCD and LED just to placate the fanboys in their reviews. Of course the iphone has the best LCD, and of course samsung creates the best OLEDs. The difference is that samsung also has the best screen period. I see it everyday.

Sometimes the whites can be a little blue or gray, depending on your brightness setting, but the black levels and overall contrast is breathtaking when consuming media. I refuse to watch certain TV shows (like GoT on anything but my tablet, because I know I can literally pick apart every single color shade in the shot).

 

[macfoxpro]

If Apple had those kind of specs, Apple lovers would LOVE LOVE LOVE it!! People act as if the they don't want, or iPhone doesn't need all that. LMAO!! Yeah right, that is such a load of crap. Oh, and don't think for a moment that we aren't pissed about spending so much money on a phone that is evolving at a snails pace when it comes to spec bumps. I mean, Apple's ecosystem will only carry me and others so far. No matter what anyone say's, trust me, they wish iPhones had those specs. Even every single person that comments on this message wants those specs. If they say they don't, their lying...flat out. So, save the time it takes to type about not caring or wanting specs like that.

 

[kepler20b]

also i do want to say one thing

I can see the pentile matrix on certain occasions on my AMOLED.

I can only see it when there is a sharp contrast of shades. Like a blue border against a white. or a red border against a black. It is very minute, but it is perceptible as a pentile matrix. Its only on the border. a full black/red/blue box you cannot see the matrix at all.

It is much much much harder to see this on a LCD.

I also dont think it is any accident that the new iMacs and the old iMac TB displays were all LED. the color saturation for professionals and overall uniform blacklevels is just unrivaled in LED tech vs LCD.

 

[macfoxpro]

Highly subjective. Some people think it's the best thing ever. Me, if Apple ever switches to AMOLED, I'm going to have to switch platforms. There is something about that ghastly greenish hue that AMOLED displays emit that literally make me feel sick (as in, nauseous) if I stare too long. And not just the overdramatic sick that OP claims he is over a bunch of numbers on paper.

I wish I knew what it was that did it and how to stop it, because apparently people who love AMOLEDs think they're the best things ever, and I'd really love to enjoy it as much as they do, but I just can't.

What a load of crap "if Apple ever switches to AMOLED, I'm going to have to switch platforms". You ain't going nowhere, and would be giddy as a school girl if Apple put a AMOLED screen on the iPhone. It kills me what people will say for the sake of an argument. lol

 

[kepler20b]

What a load of crap "if Apple ever switches to AMOLED, I'm going to have to switch platforms". You ain't going nowhere, and would be giddy as a school girl if Apple put a AMOLED screen on the iPhone. It kills me what people will say for the sake of an argument. lol

Ask anyone whose had a retina macbook pro pre 2014 in the rMBP section.


People wrote scripts just to see which LCD manufacturer you had on your rMBP. Samsung or LG iirc; because LG was notorious for their LCDs in the rMBP as being yellow or uneven in the backlighting while Samsung displays never had this issue.

 

[geoff5093]

The Galaxy S3 through the S5 have always looked sickly green to me.

The S3 was horrible, S4 was world's better, but the S5 is what gave Samsung the beat display on a smartphone. They've come a long way

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

I remember when Jobs was alive. I knew that the iPhone warranted top dollar. Now not so such. If apple don't beat these specs. iPhone 6 will be my last iPhone. Check out this crap from motorola. I guess I'm just jealous.

http://www.dailytech.com/199+Motoro...+Battery+Life+52+QHD+Display/article36794.htm

Better spec'd Android phones that are cheaper than the iPhone are nothing new. Spec's are not everything though because how it performs on paper is not always how it performs when being used. If you prefer Android and care about the spec, then it is a no-brainer but if you like iOS then there is only one option. I prefer iOS personally so this sort of thing doesn't affect my choices at present when looking to upgrade.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

If Apple had those kind of specs, Apple lovers would LOVE LOVE LOVE it!! People act as if the they don't want, or iPhone doesn't need all that. LMAO!! Yeah right, that is such a load of crap. Oh, and don't think for a moment that we aren't pissed about spending so much money on a phone that is evolving at a snails pace when it comes to spec bumps. I mean, Apple's ecosystem will only carry me and others so far. No matter what anyone say's, trust me, they wish iPhones had those specs. Even every single person that comments on this message wants those specs. If they say they don't, their lying...flat out. So, save the time it takes to type about not caring or wanting specs like that.

What about the people like me who really couldn't quote what spec their phone is running though? lol I could look it up, but couldn't tell you off the top of my head. That just goes to show that its the OS and user experience is what I look at rather than what the phone has under the hood. New features are always welcome, but not everybody is geeky enough to know or care about what spec their mobile phone has. I bet my wife doesn't know either

 

[Kariya]

I remember when Jobs was alive. I knew that the iPhone warranted top dollar. Now not so such. If apple don't beat these specs. iPhone 6 will be my last iPhone. Check out this crap from motorola. I guess I'm just jealous.

http://www.dailytech.com/199+Motoro...+Battery+Life+52+QHD+Display/article36794.htm

Take an antacid.

Also do us a favour. sell your iPhone 6 right now and buy the Turbo. Like right NOW.

 

[TacticalDesire]

Verizon approves the updates, not Motorola. Verizon is the slowest of all carriers with updates. This is a verizon exclusive. Will not be on any other carrier. If you want a pure android experience, get the latest Nexus 6 from Motorola. Don't settle for the crappy Verizon model. The Nexus 6 may be the best overall smartphone out there.

The Verizon Moto X got KitKat before my unlocked Nexus 4 did....

 

[bmt134]

Errrr. No.

Umm yes.

 

[gotluck]

^ indeed, motorola, even on verizon, has had very quick updates

And note 4 is rated overall best screen by displaymate, for the amoled hater

 

[bmt134]

Highly subjective. Some people think it's the best thing ever. Me, if Apple ever switches to AMOLED, I'm going to have to switch platforms. There is something about that ghastly greenish hue that AMOLED displays emit that literally make me feel sick (as in, nauseous) if I stare too long. And not just the overdramatic sick that OP claims he is over a bunch of numbers on paper.

I wish I knew what it was that did it and how to stop it, because apparently people who love AMOLEDs think they're the best things ever, and I'd really love to enjoy it as much as they do, but I just can't.

Nothing subjective about it, unless you are blinded by the Apple light.

 

[Wrathwitch]

i own a galaxy tab s 8.4

the amoled blew me away. it's literally the best screen ive ever seen. And it's adaptive display ensures that you never have to worry about inaccurate color reproduction.

I completely agree with you and as soon as I can play Hearthstone on it I will be like the cat that caught the canary. It is an amazingly light and beautiful tablet, one of the best I have bought so far and that includes ipads.

I absolutely love the direction Motorola is going lately and I'm in love with that red coloring. I had the original moto x and I did enjoy it and the special software that motorola now includes on their phones, but I miss having the integration with my iPad and macbook, thus I'm sticking to iPhone again for a bit.

However, I think this will be quite a successful phone should it really hold up to the specs

I agree it's nice to see possible competition with Sammy etc, the only suck factor is the bloody exclusivity. I really hate that with phones, I think it's what stymied the first gen Moto X in Canada. One of the best rated phones around and only available on "robbers". I think exclusivity hurts the OEMS more than it helps them especially if its one of their flag ship releases.

User experience is what makes the iPhone better. The intangible benefit of Apple.

Really? Just really? There are millions of users that are just as happy with their Android or Windows phone experience. Apple does not have the market cornered on user experience. I have happily used both and I can tell you other than perhaps one thing (inability to completely back up my phone and apps the way Apple has it set up) is the ONLY thing I miss about iOS. I hate it when people on forums puke out trite statements that they have been fed by others.

"It just works" Tell that to all of the new iOS8 people who have trouble connecting with wifi. Time and time again with every update of the OS. Or people who have their devices rendered virtually useless when updates come up and they are trusting that since it is available to their devices, that it is safe and a good thing to do.

Maybe Android doesn't support some of the older devices, but at least you can revert back to the older version if it doesn't work or if you are tech savvy enough you can use custom ROMs to get the latest.

I would rather have the upgrade not available to my mom than to have to explain why she has to fork out 800.00 for a new phone because an update frigged hers up.

User experience indeed!!

/rant over