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By default apple gives ALL permissions to any apps. When those apps request a certain permission iPhone prompts. HOW MANY JUST CLICK ALLOW? :p And iPhone only prompts for certain permissions (like location, contact) and all other permissions are automatically given.

Android is much more transparent since it tells you all the permissions upfront. If I don't like, I don't install app. On iPhone, you are in the dark when you install an app and the app can do damage when you run it the first time.

Somebody never used an iPhone :lol:
You should Stop making things up.

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By default apple gives ALL permissions to any apps. When those apps request a certain permission iPhone prompts. HOW MANY JUST CLICK ALLOW? :p And iPhone only prompts for certain permissions (like location, contact) and all other permissions are automatically given.

Android is much more transparent since it tells you all the permissions upfront. If I don't like, I don't install app. On iPhone, you are in the dark when you install an app and the app can do damage when you run it the first time.
Hey, I'm only sharing what I have experienced. If you don't like it, it's up to you. All I know is I'm better educated now on what Android devs can siphon off an Android phone.
 

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Hey, I'm only sharing what I have experienced. If you don't like it, it's up to you. All I know is I'm better educated now on what Android devs can siphon off an Android phone.

I have also heard from iPhone developer on how easy it is to siphon everything in iPhone. If you don't like it, up to you :)

Fact is if it is so easy, then all android users would have have been hit by major security breach like your banking and other critical data. I didn't see anything of this sort happening.

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You really don’t know how iOS works do you?

You really don't know how android works do you?
 
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I have also heard from iPhone developer on how easy it is to siphon everything in iPhone. If you don't like it, up to you :)

Fact is if it is so easy, then all android users would have have been hit by major security breach like your banking and other critical data. I didn't see anything of this sort happening.

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You really don't know how android works do you?

Knew you didn’t ;). You should stop making things up.

I actually do.
Used to work with a bunch of developers that only worked on android on the android platform, they taught me a couple of things.
 

mib1800

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Knew you didn’t ;). You should stop making things up.

I actually do.
Used to work with a bunch of developers that only worked on android on the android platform, they taught me a couple of things.

Knew you dont know :p Stop pretending.

Other than users foolishly allowing permissions otherwise data is secured. Foolish iPhone users who keep clicking "allow" are subject to the same.
 

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Knew you dont know :p Stop pretending.

Other than users foolishly allowing permissions otherwise data is secured. Foolish iPhone users who keep clicking "allow" are subject to the same.

iPhone pops up asking permission for it all the same as Android. Do you want to give permission to photos, contacts, camera, and so on each item is another approval.
 

Ffosse

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I recently bought an Honor 10 as the reviews were all good and the price was right - £359 for a 4GB/128GB near-flagship phone.

I've just been messing around with it. When I first switched it on it updated itself and I've got a May 9th security patch. The hardware is lovely but I still prefer iPhones. The Honor 10 will come in handy for playing music, though, as it has plenty of space and supports the aptXHD codec as do my headphones. I want the best quality aural experience I can get using Bluetooth and this phone doesn't disappoint in many areas. I'm surprised how good the camera is - not quite as good as an iPhone with OIS but still very good and good enough for me.

I'm going to keep it for as long as possible; usually I end up giving away or selling android phones as their shortcomings eventually outweigh their benefits but this is a lovely device so far.

I still prefer iOs and my main sim will remain in my X. But it's good to have a very nice phone which doesn't break the bank.
 

ApolloBoy

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Alrighty, so when I was due for an upgrade from my 6s this February, I decided to make the big jump and switched from iOS to Android. I picked the LG V30 largely because it had a lot of the features I was looking for (headphone jack, wireless charging, microSD slot, good battery life) and the audiophile-grade DAC it has was a big draw as well. It's been about six months now and here's my thoughts so far...

Pros
  • Having expandable storage is really nice, I have a 200 GB SD card which is just used for music and it leaves my internal storage free for everything else (apps, photos, etc.).
  • I love being able to customize my home screen and not have it be cluttered with apps or folders, I only keep on the stuff I actually use on a daily basis and everything else just stays in the app drawer. Having widgets is really neat too.
  • IMO Android deals with notifications a lot better than iOS and they're much easier to dismiss, just a quick swipe and away they go!
  • I like how Android puts quick system settings in the notification shade rather than having them be separate, I always thought iOS's Control Center was a bit clunky.
  • Android feels a lot snappier than iOS, although I am using a high-end phone with a Snapdragon 835 so your mileage may very on that end.
  • Being able to define what my default apps are is a nice plus, especially since LG's stock apps are mediocre at best.
  • I like not being totally constricted by the Play Store and having the ability to sideload apps. For example, I have an awesome app called NewPipe which allows me to play YouTube videos in the background and it's not available in the Play Store since it doesn't exactly play nice with Google's business model.
  • In terms of versatility, I think that USB-C is a better connector than Lightning and I wish Apple would switch to it already.
  • Pretty much all of the apps that I used regularly on my iPhone are about the same on Android so there was no real learning curve aside from Android's navigation bar.
  • Going from an LCD to an OLED screen is nice, my phone doesn't really have the screen issues that the V30 is known for and it looks great. My 6s looks washed out by comparison.
  • This is more of a V30 thing than anything else, but the battery life on my phone is fantastic. I'll leave the house fully charged and by the time I get home from work, it'll usually be half full. With my 6s, I'd either have to use a bulky battery case or make sure it stayed plugged in at work.
  • Two words: headphone jack. This is made even better since said headphone jack is connected to an audiophile-quality DAC, and listening to lossless music through high impedance headphones is a real treat.
Cons
  • I don't know if this is an issue with Android in general or if it's mainly with the V30, but Bluetooth reliability is terrible. My wireless earbuds (a pair of BeatsX) skip every so often and occasionally get disconnected, and connecting BT audio to my car's audio system is a complete crapshoot. Sometimes it works, and sometimes it refuses to do anything even if I hit "play" on my music app. I use wired headphones on my phone most of the time, but there are times when I like to use my BeatsX and not having them be reliable is very frustrating.
  • While I'm on the subject of car audio, trying to play audio over USB isn't doable at all, even if I configure my phone as media storage. This is made even more annoying by the fact that my car doesn't have an aux jack. My 6s on the other hand connects perfectly and starts playing songs the moment it's connected, whether it be through USB or Bluetooth.
  • Trying to transfer files through USB on a Mac is a very annoying process. The official file transfer app for the Mac is a complete piece of hot garbage, and even some of the paid alternatives aren't all that great. It's the complete opposite story with Windows though, my phone pops up in File Explorer once it's connected and transferring files is painless.
  • Considering Google isn't as respectful towards user privacy as Apple, I try to avoid using Google Assistant and other Google stuff as much as possible. Really don't understand why Google Assistant has to phone home when I do a voice search instead of having it be processed directly on the phone like with Siri.
  • The Play Store is like the Wild West of app stores, it feels like the QA is a lot more lenient and there's a massive amount of crap to wade through (and I thought the Windows Store was bad!).
  • Using the standard text messenger is awful if you want to send large files, it's one of the things that makes me miss iMessage.
  • Unless you get something like a Pixel 2 or OnePlus 6 you're pretty much at the mercy of the carrier and/or OEM when it comes to bloatware. My phone had a ton of useless junk preloaded by LG and Verizon and I can't uninstall most of it.
  • Updates, or lack thereof. This is made even worse by the fact that LG is notoriously bad when it comes to this and most Android phones are usually supported for around 2-3 years. For instance, my phone only just got Oreo in March, several months after it was first released and even then it's not the latest version of Oreo. This hasn't really been a big downside for me, but it would sure be nice if Google put their foot down in this regard.
  • Not having a physical mute switch kinda sucks. I know OnePlus phones have something similar but it'd be nice if this was a more common feature on Android phones.
  • I miss AirDrop a lot, it was very useful for offloading photos and videos from my iPhone and doing the same through USB or Bluetooth is a much clunkier process on Android.
  • Unless you have a Samsung Galaxy or Pixel 2, good luck finding a variety of nice cases.
I have to admit though, despite me getting used to Android and the V30 being a really nice phone, there are times when Android's and the V30's annoyances cause me to switch back to my iPhone on occasion. I also have an Apple Watch and love it, so I always keep the iPhone around and ready to go at a moment's notice. My iPhone's standby time has been utterly lousy lately so I might actually replace it with a 7 or 8 in the coming months, and I can keep switching between phones whenever the mood strikes.

All in all, it's been a decent experience switching from iOS to Android, but I just wish Android had the dependability and respect of privacy that iOS offers.
 
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LIVEFRMNYC

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Alrighty, so when I was due for an upgrade from my 6s this February, I decided to make the big jump and switched from iOS to Android. I picked the LG V30 largely because it had a lot of the features I was looking for (headphone jack, wireless charging, microSD slot, good battery life) and the audiophile-grade DAC it has was a big draw as well. It's been about six months now and here's my thoughts so far...

Pros
  • Having expandable storage is really nice, I have a 200 GB SD card which is just used for music and it leaves my internal storage free for everything else (apps, photos, etc.).
  • I love being able to customize my home screen and not have it be cluttered with apps or folders, I only keep on the stuff I actually use on a daily basis and everything else just stays in the app drawer. Having widgets is really neat too.
  • IMO Android deals with notifications a lot better than iOS and they're much easier to dismiss, just a quick swipe and away they go!
  • I like how Android puts quick system settings in the notification shade rather than having them be separate, I always thought iOS's Control Center was a bit clunky.
  • Android feels a lot snappier than iOS, although I am using a high-end phone with a Snapdragon 835 so your mileage may very on that end.
  • Being able to define what my default apps are is a nice plus, especially since LG's stock apps are mediocre at best.
  • I like not being totally constricted by the Play Store and having the ability to sideload apps. For example, I have an awesome app called NewTube which allows me to play YouTube videos in the background and it's not available in the Play Store since it doesn't exactly play nice with Google's business model.
  • In terms of versatility, I think that USB-C is a better connector than Lightning and I wish Apple would switch to it already.
  • Pretty much all of the apps that I used regularly on my iPhone are about the same on Android so there was no real learning curve aside from Android's navigation bar.
  • Going from an LCD to an OLED screen is nice, my phone doesn't really have the screen issues that the V30 is known for and it looks great. My 6s looks washed out by comparison.
  • This is more of a V30 thing than anything else, but the battery life on my phone is fantastic. I'll leave the house fully charged and by the time I get home from work, it'll usually be half full. With my 6s, I'd either have to use a bulky battery case or make sure it stayed plugged in at work.
  • Two words: headphone jack. This is made even better since said headphone jack is connected to an audiophile-quality DAC, and listening to lossless music through high impedance headphones is a real treat.
Cons
  • I don't know if this is an issue with Android in general or if it's mainly with the V30, but Bluetooth reliability is terrible. My wireless earbuds (a pair of BeatsX) skip every so often and occasionally get disconnected, and connecting BT audio to my car's audio system is a complete crapshoot. Sometimes it works, and sometimes it refuses to do anything even if I hit "play" on my music app. I use wired headphones on my phone most of the time, but there are times when I like to use my BeatsX and not having them be reliable is very frustrating.
  • While I'm on the subject of car audio, trying to play audio over USB isn't doable at all, even if I configure my phone as media storage. This is made even more annoying by the fact that my car doesn't have an aux jack. My 6s on the other hand connects perfectly and starts playing songs the moment it's connected, whether it be through USB or Bluetooth.
  • Trying to transfer files through USB on a Mac is a very annoying process. The official file transfer app for the Mac is a complete piece of hot garbage, and even some of the paid alternatives aren't all that great. It's the complete opposite story with Windows though, my phone pops up in File Explorer once it's connected and transferring files is painless.
  • Considering Google isn't as respectful towards user privacy as Apple, I try to avoid using Google Assistant and other Google stuff as much as possible. Really don't understand why Google Assistant has to phone home when I do a voice search instead of having it be processed directly on the phone like with Siri.
  • The Play Store is like the Wild West of app stores, it feels like the QA is a lot more lenient and there's a massive amount of crap to wade through (and I thought the Windows Store was bad!).
  • Using the standard text messenger is awful if you want to send large files, it's one of the things that makes me miss iMessage.
  • Unless you get something like a Pixel 2 or OnePlus 6 you're pretty much at the mercy of the carrier and/or OEM when it comes to bloatware. My phone had a ton of useless junk preloaded by LG and Verizon and I can't uninstall most of it.
  • Updates, or lack thereof. This is made even worse by the fact that LG is notoriously bad when it comes to this and most Android phones are usually supported for around 2-3 years. For instance, my phone only just got Oreo in March, several months after it was first released and even then it's not the latest version of Oreo. This hasn't really been a big downside for me, but it would sure be nice if Google put their foot down in this regard.
  • Not having a physical mute switch kinda sucks. I know OnePlus phones have something similar but it'd be nice if this was a more common feature on Android phones.
  • I miss AirDrop a lot, it was very useful for offloading photos and videos from my iPhone and doing the same through USB or Bluetooth is a much clunkier process on Android.
  • Unless you have a Samsung Galaxy or Pixel 2, good luck finding a variety of nice cases.
I have to admit though, despite me getting used to Android and the V30 being a really nice phone, there are times when Android's and the V30's annoyances cause me to switch back to my iPhone on occasion. I also have an Apple Watch and love it, so I always keep the iPhone around and ready to go at a moment's notice. My iPhone's standby time has been utterly lousy lately so I might actually replace it with a 7 or 8 in the coming months, and I can keep switching between phones whenever the mood strikes.

All in all, it's been a decent experience switching from iOS to Android, but I just wish Android had the dependability and respect of privacy that iOS offers.


In my case dependability is better on Android. Nowadays, most issues I get from my Android phones are minor bugs or quirks that are easy to fix. But when my iPhone screws up, it screws up badly and can be a pain to quickly fix, especially if it's an iCloud issue.

As far as apps go, I'm basically set in my ways of which apps I install and use on both platforms, so I'm not installing everything under the sun and running into issues. The Playstore's security has gotten so much better, but still less secure than the Apple Store. Although I can't stand the Apple Store's UI, I like the older UI better. I have no complaints about the Playstore's UI.

Yup, the Android app on MAC OS sucks and is broken 98% of the time. Uninstall that crap and use the Samsung software or Air Droid.
 
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In my case dependability is better on Android. Nowadays, most issues I get from my Android phones are minor bugs or quirks that are easy to fix. But when my iPhone screws up, it screws up badly and can be a pain to quickly fix, especially if it's an iCloud issue.

As far as apps go, I'm basically set in my ways of which apps I install and use on both platforms, so I'm not installing everything under the sun and running into issues. The Playstore's security has gotten so much better, but still less secure than the Apple Store. Although I can't stand the Apple Store's UI, I like the older UI better. I have no complaints about the Playstore's UI.

Yup, the Android app on MAC OS sucks and is broken 98% of the time. Uninstall that crap and use the Samsung software or Air Droid.
Having my 2+ year old iPhone SE suddenly get all squirrelly on me and battery life tanking, I decided it was time to go back to Android (my phone previous to the SE was the Sharp Aquos Crystal).

I'll still use the SE as an iPod Touch Pro (wifi, bluetooth work well, cell is what was flakey).

I went with the LG Stylo 3. My carrier sells it for $100. It's a BEAST of a phone (size-wise). It's going to take some time for me to get all of the things that I use a smartphone for back into the Android mindset. I don't do much, but what I do do, I depend on.

Re: Android/macOS connectivity. I went with Handshaker for now. It offers both USB and wireless connectivity for transferring.
 

Shanghaichica

macrumors G5
Apr 8, 2013
14,725
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Yes connecting an android phone to a Mac is a painful experience. Which is why I don’t do it ever. In windows it’s a breeze and you don’t even need ‘special’ software. Drag and drop suffices to get stuff on and off the phone.

I usually just copy stuff onto a micro SD card and have that be the middle man between the android phone and my MacBook.
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Alrighty, so when I was due for an upgrade from my 6s this February, I decided to make the big jump and switched from iOS to Android. I picked the LG V30 largely because it had a lot of the features I was looking for (headphone jack, wireless charging, microSD slot, good battery life) and the audiophile-grade DAC it has was a big draw as well. It's been about six months now and here's my thoughts so far...

Pros
  • Having expandable storage is really nice, I have a 200 GB SD card which is just used for music and it leaves my internal storage free for everything else (apps, photos, etc.).
  • I love being able to customize my home screen and not have it be cluttered with apps or folders, I only keep on the stuff I actually use on a daily basis and everything else just stays in the app drawer. Having widgets is really neat too.
  • IMO Android deals with notifications a lot better than iOS and they're much easier to dismiss, just a quick swipe and away they go!
  • I like how Android puts quick system settings in the notification shade rather than having them be separate, I always thought iOS's Control Center was a bit clunky.
  • Android feels a lot snappier than iOS, although I am using a high-end phone with a Snapdragon 835 so your mileage may very on that end.
  • Being able to define what my default apps are is a nice plus, especially since LG's stock apps are mediocre at best.
  • I like not being totally constricted by the Play Store and having the ability to sideload apps. For example, I have an awesome app called NewTube which allows me to play YouTube videos in the background and it's not available in the Play Store since it doesn't exactly play nice with Google's business model.
  • In terms of versatility, I think that USB-C is a better connector than Lightning and I wish Apple would switch to it already.
  • Pretty much all of the apps that I used regularly on my iPhone are about the same on Android so there was no real learning curve aside from Android's navigation bar.
  • Going from an LCD to an OLED screen is nice, my phone doesn't really have the screen issues that the V30 is known for and it looks great. My 6s looks washed out by comparison.
  • This is more of a V30 thing than anything else, but the battery life on my phone is fantastic. I'll leave the house fully charged and by the time I get home from work, it'll usually be half full. With my 6s, I'd either have to use a bulky battery case or make sure it stayed plugged in at work.
  • Two words: headphone jack. This is made even better since said headphone jack is connected to an audiophile-quality DAC, and listening to lossless music through high impedance headphones is a real treat.
Cons
  • I don't know if this is an issue with Android in general or if it's mainly with the V30, but Bluetooth reliability is terrible. My wireless earbuds (a pair of BeatsX) skip every so often and occasionally get disconnected, and connecting BT audio to my car's audio system is a complete crapshoot. Sometimes it works, and sometimes it refuses to do anything even if I hit "play" on my music app. I use wired headphones on my phone most of the time, but there are times when I like to use my BeatsX and not having them be reliable is very frustrating.
  • While I'm on the subject of car audio, trying to play audio over USB isn't doable at all, even if I configure my phone as media storage. This is made even more annoying by the fact that my car doesn't have an aux jack. My 6s on the other hand connects perfectly and starts playing songs the moment it's connected, whether it be through USB or Bluetooth.
  • Trying to transfer files through USB on a Mac is a very annoying process. The official file transfer app for the Mac is a complete piece of hot garbage, and even some of the paid alternatives aren't all that great. It's the complete opposite story with Windows though, my phone pops up in File Explorer once it's connected and transferring files is painless.
  • Considering Google isn't as respectful towards user privacy as Apple, I try to avoid using Google Assistant and other Google stuff as much as possible. Really don't understand why Google Assistant has to phone home when I do a voice search instead of having it be processed directly on the phone like with Siri.
  • The Play Store is like the Wild West of app stores, it feels like the QA is a lot more lenient and there's a massive amount of crap to wade through (and I thought the Windows Store was bad!).
  • Using the standard text messenger is awful if you want to send large files, it's one of the things that makes me miss iMessage.
  • Unless you get something like a Pixel 2 or OnePlus 6 you're pretty much at the mercy of the carrier and/or OEM when it comes to bloatware. My phone had a ton of useless junk preloaded by LG and Verizon and I can't uninstall most of it.
  • Updates, or lack thereof. This is made even worse by the fact that LG is notoriously bad when it comes to this and most Android phones are usually supported for around 2-3 years. For instance, my phone only just got Oreo in March, several months after it was first released and even then it's not the latest version of Oreo. This hasn't really been a big downside for me, but it would sure be nice if Google put their foot down in this regard.
  • Not having a physical mute switch kinda sucks. I know OnePlus phones have something similar but it'd be nice if this was a more common feature on Android phones.
  • I miss AirDrop a lot, it was very useful for offloading photos and videos from my iPhone and doing the same through USB or Bluetooth is a much clunkier process on Android.
  • Unless you have a Samsung Galaxy or Pixel 2, good luck finding a variety of nice cases.
I have to admit though, despite me getting used to Android and the V30 being a really nice phone, there are times when Android's and the V30's annoyances cause me to switch back to my iPhone on occasion. I also have an Apple Watch and love it, so I always keep the iPhone around and ready to go at a moment's notice. My iPhone's standby time has been utterly lousy lately so I might actually replace it with a 7 or 8 in the coming months, and I can keep switching between phones whenever the mood strikes.

All in all, it's been a decent experience switching from iOS to Android, but I just wish Android had the dependability and respect of privacy that iOS offers.
This is a very comprehensive take on the differences.
 

mjschabow

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Alrighty, so when I was due for an upgrade from my 6s this February, I decided to make the big jump and switched from iOS to Android. I picked the LG V30 largely because it had a lot of the features I was looking for (headphone jack, wireless charging, microSD slot, good battery life) and the audiophile-grade DAC it has was a big draw as well. It's been about six months now and here's my thoughts so far...

Pros
  • Having expandable storage is really nice, I have a 200 GB SD card which is just used for music and it leaves my internal storage free for everything else (apps, photos, etc.).
  • I love being able to customize my home screen and not have it be cluttered with apps or folders, I only keep on the stuff I actually use on a daily basis and everything else just stays in the app drawer. Having widgets is really neat too.
  • IMO Android deals with notifications a lot better than iOS and they're much easier to dismiss, just a quick swipe and away they go!
  • I like how Android puts quick system settings in the notification shade rather than having them be separate, I always thought iOS's Control Center was a bit clunky.
  • Android feels a lot snappier than iOS, although I am using a high-end phone with a Snapdragon 835 so your mileage may very on that end.
  • Being able to define what my default apps are is a nice plus, especially since LG's stock apps are mediocre at best.
  • I like not being totally constricted by the Play Store and having the ability to sideload apps. For example, I have an awesome app called NewTube which allows me to play YouTube videos in the background and it's not available in the Play Store since it doesn't exactly play nice with Google's business model.
  • In terms of versatility, I think that USB-C is a better connector than Lightning and I wish Apple would switch to it already.
  • Pretty much all of the apps that I used regularly on my iPhone are about the same on Android so there was no real learning curve aside from Android's navigation bar.
  • Going from an LCD to an OLED screen is nice, my phone doesn't really have the screen issues that the V30 is known for and it looks great. My 6s looks washed out by comparison.
  • This is more of a V30 thing than anything else, but the battery life on my phone is fantastic. I'll leave the house fully charged and by the time I get home from work, it'll usually be half full. With my 6s, I'd either have to use a bulky battery case or make sure it stayed plugged in at work.
  • Two words: headphone jack. This is made even better since said headphone jack is connected to an audiophile-quality DAC, and listening to lossless music through high impedance headphones is a real treat.
Cons
  • I don't know if this is an issue with Android in general or if it's mainly with the V30, but Bluetooth reliability is terrible. My wireless earbuds (a pair of BeatsX) skip every so often and occasionally get disconnected, and connecting BT audio to my car's audio system is a complete crapshoot. Sometimes it works, and sometimes it refuses to do anything even if I hit "play" on my music app. I use wired headphones on my phone most of the time, but there are times when I like to use my BeatsX and not having them be reliable is very frustrating.
  • While I'm on the subject of car audio, trying to play audio over USB isn't doable at all, even if I configure my phone as media storage. This is made even more annoying by the fact that my car doesn't have an aux jack. My 6s on the other hand connects perfectly and starts playing songs the moment it's connected, whether it be through USB or Bluetooth.
  • Trying to transfer files through USB on a Mac is a very annoying process. The official file transfer app for the Mac is a complete piece of hot garbage, and even some of the paid alternatives aren't all that great. It's the complete opposite story with Windows though, my phone pops up in File Explorer once it's connected and transferring files is painless.
  • Considering Google isn't as respectful towards user privacy as Apple, I try to avoid using Google Assistant and other Google stuff as much as possible. Really don't understand why Google Assistant has to phone home when I do a voice search instead of having it be processed directly on the phone like with Siri.
  • The Play Store is like the Wild West of app stores, it feels like the QA is a lot more lenient and there's a massive amount of crap to wade through (and I thought the Windows Store was bad!).
  • Using the standard text messenger is awful if you want to send large files, it's one of the things that makes me miss iMessage.
  • Unless you get something like a Pixel 2 or OnePlus 6 you're pretty much at the mercy of the carrier and/or OEM when it comes to bloatware. My phone had a ton of useless junk preloaded by LG and Verizon and I can't uninstall most of it.
  • Updates, or lack thereof. This is made even worse by the fact that LG is notoriously bad when it comes to this and most Android phones are usually supported for around 2-3 years. For instance, my phone only just got Oreo in March, several months after it was first released and even then it's not the latest version of Oreo. This hasn't really been a big downside for me, but it would sure be nice if Google put their foot down in this regard.
  • Not having a physical mute switch kinda sucks. I know OnePlus phones have something similar but it'd be nice if this was a more common feature on Android phones.
  • I miss AirDrop a lot, it was very useful for offloading photos and videos from my iPhone and doing the same through USB or Bluetooth is a much clunkier process on Android.
  • Unless you have a Samsung Galaxy or Pixel 2, good luck finding a variety of nice cases.
I have to admit though, despite me getting used to Android and the V30 being a really nice phone, there are times when Android's and the V30's annoyances cause me to switch back to my iPhone on occasion. I also have an Apple Watch and love it, so I always keep the iPhone around and ready to go at a moment's notice. My iPhone's standby time has been utterly lousy lately so I might actually replace it with a 7 or 8 in the coming months, and I can keep switching between phones whenever the mood strikes.

All in all, it's been a decent experience switching from iOS to Android, but I just wish Android had the dependability and respect of privacy that iOS offers.

Good review and what’s crazy is that iMessage has become such a deal breaker for me that it’s tough to make a switch to Android, even though I think android is better at this point. It’s not even about being tied to an ecosystem. Apple just does messaging better, and quite frankly, texting is still what I use my phone for the most.
 

mi7chy

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Stability on Android. One of my devices has an uptime of 11,523 hours so 480 days.

On iOS I usually have to do a complete restore every so often.
 

sunking101

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Good review and what’s crazy is that iMessage has become such a deal breaker for me that it’s tough to make a switch to Android, even though I think android is better at this point. It’s not even about being tied to an ecosystem. Apple just does messaging better, and quite frankly, texting is still what I use my phone for the most.
I still find iMessage dealbreaking hard to get my head around. I mainly use Whatsapp with a little SMS use here and there. I did the same when I had an iPhone. I just don't understand this iMessage thing and people have tried to explain it a few times. It says more about iPhone users and everything having to be stock than anything else, it's the reason people rip into iPhones and iPhone users in a nutshell.
 

mjschabow

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This. In America literally no one uses WhatsApp. I know of zero people. The reason why iMessage is so nice is because it takes zero work or thought on the user.

Exactly. And it’s not that Samsung messages are android messages are bad apps. It’s just that they have character limits. Or if I’m using a Samsung app and I write a long message, there’s a decent chance that they will appear out of order to other users. So like I said earlier. It’s not about being trapped in an ecosystem, it’s just that iPhone does it so much better. And considering are used texting probably more than any other app this is very important to me.
 
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Wildo6882

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Exactly. And it’s not that Samsung messages are android messages are bad apps. It’s just that they have character limits. Or if I’m using a Samsung app and I write a long message, there’s a decent chance that they will appear out of order to other users. So like I said earlier. It’s not about being trapped in an ecosystem, it’s just that iPhone does it so much better. And considering are used texting probably more than any other app this is very important to me.

Again, I agree 110%. Those apps are definitely fine. And actually pretty nice. But you run into issues with long messages and definitely with videos. And then you also have the issue of getting people to sign up for an account on get another app like WhatsApp or Signal or something. Most people will take the path of least resistance. And in America, that’s iMessage.
 
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mi7chy

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I'm surprised people still use the proprietary niche iMessage. Most everybody I know on iOS use Google Voice account with Hangouts which is truly cross platform, is a free landline/mobile replacement that allows for unlimited free calls/SMS/MMS over free WIFI/broadband, doesn't require cell plan, has had cloud sync for years that iMessage finally got this year, doesn't have frequent vulnerabilities that soft bricks like on iOS devices, works from a standard desktop browser, multi-line support, true call blocking where other party gets "line is no longer in service" message without going to voicemail, etc. It's weird to see iMessage like people hyping up McDonald's but maybe I'm more used to Avaya, Cisco, etc. enterprise voice systems.
 

mjschabow

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I'm surprised people still use the proprietary niche iMessage. Most everybody I know on iOS use Google Voice account with Hangouts which is truly cross platform, is a free landline/mobile replacement that allows for unlimited free calls/SMS/MMS over free WIFI/broadband, doesn't require cell plan, has had cloud sync for years that iMessage finally got this year, doesn't have frequent vulnerabilities that soft bricks like on iOS devices, works from a standard desktop browser, multi-line support, true call blocking where other party gets "line is no longer in service" message without going to voicemail, etc. It's weird to see iMessage like people hyping up McDonald's but maybe I'm more used to Avaya, Cisco, etc. enterprise voice systems.

Curious. Where do you live? Again, I’m in America and don’t know one person that’s ever used Google Voice or Hangouts.
 

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Curious. Where do you live? Again, I’m in America and don’t know one person that’s ever used Google Voice or Hangouts.

Plenty people in America use Hangouts. I personally don't because the earlier versions turned me off, and was never tempted to try it again.

Google Voice, I and many others in America use it for multi platform Visual Voicemail. IMO, it's the best voicemail service and completely free. I also use Google Voice if I'm selling or buying something on Craigslist or the Letgo app. Works great as a secondary number for calling and texting.
 

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i was trying to get my family members who have ios devices to install hangouts so that we get on a more open standard. sadly, hangouts on ios is so jacked up that it is useless. for years it has had problems with notifications and sounds.
 
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I'm surprised people still use the proprietary niche iMessage. Most everybody I know on iOS use Google Voice account with Hangouts which is truly cross platform, is a free landline/mobile replacement that allows for unlimited free calls/SMS/MMS over free WIFI/broadband, doesn't require cell plan, has had cloud sync for years that iMessage finally got this year, doesn't have frequent vulnerabilities that soft bricks like on iOS devices, works from a standard desktop browser, multi-line support, true call blocking where other party gets "line is no longer in service" message without going to voicemail, etc. It's weird to see iMessage like people hyping up McDonald's but maybe I'm more used to Avaya, Cisco, etc. enterprise voice systems.
imessage is probably the most used platform, maybe save for some platforms used within China. It’s the most reliable, no installation required and ios users don't have to barter with other iOS users as to what competing platform to use.

iMessage is also secure as one doesn’t have to worry about where the encryption keys are and will they be turned over to government.

But enjoy your messaging platform, there’s room enough aplenty for all of them.
 
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