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What do you think about angela ahrendts' performance as retail chief ?

  • Love her work

    Votes: 18 26.5%
  • Hate her work

    Votes: 30 44.1%
  • I have no opinion

    Votes: 20 29.4%

  • Total voters
    68

Patriot24

macrumors 68030
Dec 29, 2010
2,813
805
California
Angela has so little to do with the watch that it is borderline insane that people continue to connect the two.

Apple started working on this THREE YEARS AGO. She is in charge of STORES. Get it through your heads. Stop scapegoating her.
 

Glideslope

macrumors G3
Dec 7, 2007
8,319
5,782
The Adirondacks.
Out of all the Apple employees, you single out Dr Dre as the one with a 'thug posse'. Racist much?

Fair Use: Bio.

Trouble With the Law

Over the years, Dre hasn't just rapped about violence or reckless behavior. He has lived some of his lyrics, experiencing numerous scrapes with the law. In 1991, he reportedly hit TV host Denise Barnes and tried to push her down a flight of stairs. The attack was triggered by a segment she had done about Ice Cube's departure from N.W.A. Dre faced assault charges and a civil suit for his actions, but both parties decided to settle out of court.

The following year, Dre again faced assault charges for an alleged attack on producer Damon Thomas. He was arrested for battery of a police officer a few months later. Dre seemed to take his dangerous behavior to the extreme in 1994 when he led police on a high-speed chase while intoxicated. Having violated his probation for the earlier battery offense, Dre was sentenced to several months in jail and ordered to pay a fine. He served his time in 1995.
 

Patriot24

macrumors 68030
Dec 29, 2010
2,813
805
California
THERE YOU GO :)

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She does not make $74m per year. That was a one-time stock grant to make her whole on the shares she walked away from at Burberry.
 

aluren

macrumors 65816
Sep 9, 2008
1,200
4
Tim: We can only make about 1 million watches by 4/24, what should we do?

Angela: No problem, let's just make it online purchase only.

Tim: Sounds good.

Phil: Angela, we'll have you announce it to world (so I don't get flamed by Apple fanboys :cool:). Thanks.
 

Fuchal

macrumors 68030
Sep 30, 2003
2,613
1,136
Steve gave products to celebrities early too. Just that it was celebrities that he liked.
 

rockyroad55

macrumors 601
Jul 14, 2010
4,152
59
Phila, PA
How is supply her fault? Fire Jeff Williams would be the correct statement. She was just making the best of an already awful supply problem.
 

16Paws

macrumors 6502a
Jun 2, 2014
793
216
I think we should applaud Angela Ahrendts. I think it takes a lot of back bone to walk into a company and say: I know I have been hired to be the head of retail. I know that our retail stores are the most profitable retail store in the world based on square footage. I KNOW that the Apple Watch will be the first major product released under my tenure. And even though I know all of these things... I think we shouldn't sell the watch in stores at first.

I think it is brave.
 

cmichaelb

macrumors 68020
Aug 6, 2008
2,284
742
Italy
If we're going to be honest, the problem isn't anything to do with Retail, or the online stores, it has to do with the fact that they launched with 38 different models, in 9 different countries. This is a logistics nightmare no matter what company you are.

I'm a logistics consultant and you are right on the money.
 

racer1441

macrumors 68000
Jul 3, 2009
1,869
668
If we're going to be honest, the problem isn't anything to do with Retail, or the online stores, it has to do with the fact that they launched with 38 different models, in 9 different countries. This is a logistics nightmare no matter what company you are.

Which is 100% why they should focus on the US market to start and then move out to the other locations.
 

cmichaelb

macrumors 68020
Aug 6, 2008
2,284
742
Italy
The only thing Angela did wrong was put out that pre-school quality video. I think she should have said nothing.

The quality was fine- the problem was whoever recorded the video with their phone off of a computer screen. If you were watching it natively it would be fine.
 

AdonisSMU

macrumors 604
Oct 23, 2010
7,320
3,078
Which is 100% why they should focus on the US market to start and then move out to the other locations.

Then people would complain that Apple put the US first despite the fact that the US accounts for the bulk of Apple product sales.
 

teknikal90

macrumors 68040
Jan 28, 2008
3,382
1,943
Vancouver, BC
I'm sure the title of this thread is a bit extreme but hear my reasoning prior to casting judgement. What makes Apple different than any other tech company? Loyalty! Customers actually looked forward to product launches and waiting in line for a chance to be an early adopter. This product launch is a complete joke! So yes I woke up about Ten minutes late and have to wait until 5/13-5/27. That is not the primary reason I'm upset. I don't like that Katy Perry, Pharell, Drake, Beyoncé are all running around with a watch. Steve Jobs would have fired whoever gave the product out prior to the actual release. That is terrible advertising anyway. I guarantee that I ( the loyal Apple customer) have spent more on Apple products than any of the people named above. I'm sure Dr Dre is out running around giving out the watch to these people while being escorted by his thug posse. What a Joke having that guy as an executive anyway. This company's appearance is changing in a bad way. There are so many ways this product launch are a terrible future for Apple. Apple wouldn't be what it is today without its retail partners and it's pretty obvious that they are cutting them all out of the profit by only selling it on the Apple Store online. I'm venting because they obviously released the watch the same day as the Samsung s6 just to try and sway a few but not because they were ready to launch.

you completely missed the point. celebrities exist as tools for corporations to promote their crap. like it or not, the fact that beyonce did a photo shoot using an apple watch elevates the apple watch's cultural status beyond that of the moto 360...or the samsung gear... all this despite not winning in the spec race in any way.

in doing that, beyonce is far far more valuable than you, who have added maybe $20k, if that, to Apple's multi billion bottom line.

This is not just a tech gadget. Apple's usual way of doing business won't work. This thing sells on merit, not tech specs.
 

GoSUV

macrumors regular
Nov 5, 2008
100
8
Hong Kong
I think she is doing a fabulous job and all future product launches should be done only online initially. I know there is fanfare generated when there are long line ups and camping outside the Apple stores on the nights before a launch, but imagine the frustration when real users who want to get their hands on products early are in fact being spoiled by scalpers who occupy all the early spots in the queue and the scalpers in turn sell them off with a 200% mark up.

Scalpers may not be rampant in your neck of the woods but here in Hong Kong and Asia, it's getting out of hand. I applaud the decision made by Apple this time for the :apple: Watch launch. You just have to log in to the online store on time and make your order. Everyone has an equal chance.
 

Macwick

macrumors 6502
Dec 9, 2008
284
236
Out of all the Apple employees, you single out Dr Dre as the one with a 'thug posse'. Racist much?

Hrm, let's see who the thug is. Were the following lyrics composed by:

A: Angela Ahrendts
B: Tim Cook
C: Dr. Dre

Title: "***** You"

"So whatcha gon' do, ya freak b*tch?
You, actin, like you, don't, do, d*cks
That's the kinda b*tch I hate f*ckin wit
Baby was a virgin, that's what she said
So I gave her some Hennesey, she gave me some head
I f*cked her on the flo', so I wouldn't mess up my bed
Then Lil' 1/2 Dead put his d*ck on her head
Take that b*tch home, and give her a bone"
 

kingofwale

macrumors 6502a
Apr 24, 2010
988
1,434
You must be a big shareholder, right? Otherwise you have no voice on these issues. Either buy the product or move on.

wait, you have to be rich to have an voice?? Was that in the first amendment I happen to miss?


I actually agree with a lot of point OP made. Sure maybe it's not all Angela Ahrendts, but heck, she has not been warming up with Apple owners, and that's NEVER a good thing when you are the management.
 

AdonisSMU

macrumors 604
Oct 23, 2010
7,320
3,078
wait, you have to be rich to have an voice?? Was that in the first amendment I happen to miss?


I actually agree with a lot of point OP made. Sure maybe it's not all Angela Ahrendts, but heck, she has not been warming up with Apple owners, and that's NEVER a good thing when you are the management.

She is cozy with her employers. You are free to shop for other vendors products if you dont like her. You dont have to deal with her. She doesnt answer to you.
 

alia

macrumors 65816
Apr 2, 2003
1,053
647
Tampa, FL (Orlando, 2003 - 2023)
wait, you have to be rich to have an voice?? Was that in the first amendment I happen to miss?


I actually agree with a lot of point OP made. Sure maybe it's not all Angela Ahrendts, but heck, she has not been warming up with Apple owners, and that's NEVER a good thing when you are the management.

I am an Apple shareholder, and I have no problem with her.
 

xraydoc

Contributor
Oct 9, 2005
11,004
5,473
192.168.1.1
What I'm not happy with is the moving target for launch day. I mean, if they weren't going to have them in stores, why not have the demo models available to examine on 4/10, then make the online order date 4/24 and ship them out immediately (or at first available).

Why take online orders then wait two weeks to ship - and not even barely any stock to ship?

I have no problem with an online-only launch, but start orders when there's stock to ship and ship them right away. And put the demo units in the stores BEFORE they go on sale, so people can make their choices and have a chance to order them before the wait goes to two months.

I also wonder why Apple -- near-trillion dollar company that it is -- is still wholly unable to predict product demand and build enough for first wave sales. I totally believe Apple holds back on purpose for the press. They have billions in the bank, so they don't need to move product quickly.

They (and us along with them) are victims of their own success.
 

AdonisSMU

macrumors 604
Oct 23, 2010
7,320
3,078
What I'm not happy with is the moving target for launch day. I mean, if they weren't going to have them in stores, why not have the demo models available to examine on 4/10, then make the online order date 4/24 and ship them out immediately (or at first available).

Why take online orders then wait two weeks to ship - and not even barely any stock to ship?

I have no problem with an online-only launch, but start orders when there's stock to ship and ship them right away. And put the demo units in the stores BEFORE they go on sale, so people can make their choices and have a chance to order them before the wait goes to two months.

I also wonder why Apple -- near-trillion dollar company that it is -- is still wholly unable to predict product demand and build enough for first wave sales. I totally believe Apple holds back on purpose for the press. They have billions in the bank, so they don't need to move product quickly.

They (and us along with them) are victims of their own success.
Some of us had already made up our minds. Its not our fault you didnt prepare for the launch before hand. We shouldnt have to wait until you decide you are ready to purchase the watch. get over yourself.
 
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Rogifan

macrumors Penryn
Nov 14, 2011
24,724
32,184
The only thing Angela did wrong was put out that pre-school quality video. I think she should have said nothing.

That 'pre-school' video was intended for Apple retail employees not you. :rolleyes:
 

xraydoc

Contributor
Oct 9, 2005
11,004
5,473
192.168.1.1
Some of us had already made up our minds. Its not our fault you didnt prepare for the Launch before hand. We shouldnt have to wait until you decide you are ready to purchase the watch. get over yourself.

Nothing to get over. Mine has prepared for shipment and my CC has been charged. I may well receive mine on Friday.

I'm just saying, IMHO, that there was a much better way of rolling out an online-only launch.
 
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