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Tim Cook Delivers Speech Emphasizing Apple's Opposition to Sideloading
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In this case, Apple has had reports published on government requests (court orders and such). Yes, a company telling a government to pound sand never works long term. That is why now, the government wants to interfere with the current status quo. Not because of "competition", but because other companies see the $ sign in data harvesting by bypassing current norms of the App Store.
Like I said earlier, it is a miracle that before "Do not Track" there wasn't a such prevent issue on the App Store being the gateway. Companies embraced it rather. Now? Several companies (not indie developers as much) have formed coalitions to coax governments into forcing an open platform on the iPhone.
Explain please?
Anti-competitive practices - how exactly?
As for vendor lock-in, what do you mean by that exactly. Just so I know we are talking about the same thing. I am completely free to drop iPhone and get an Android TODAY if I wanted to. I am not locked in. And this is someone that has spent over $10,000+ on iTunes stuff since 2004 or so.
Yep use your own NAS or own servers if you care that much about security and privacy. NOBODY is 100% in this area.
They say but don't provide any proof. Therein lies the rub.
I too used to believe that Apple was on the "good", privacy side, however two events kind of killed it for me.
1. Corporate security - the company I work for doesn't use or allow iCloud because Apple refused to disclose how they handle data.
2. On device scanning - a lot was brought to light on Apple's mindset when this tidbit hit the ground.
2a. Started taking a much closer look at what was going on with my Apple products. There are a lot of, let's call them black holes, where Apple collects your data but you as a user have absolutely no clue what is done with it aside from some "assurances".
When I stopped trusting Apple's assurances, that lack of proof led to a lack of trust in all their claims.
Privacy is super important to us. That's why we run spyware on all your photos now.
I am bowing out of the thread due other deligences, but I'll let my final stance clear:
- I chose the iPhone due to the closed environment; otherwise I would have chosen Android
- To me, the average Joe should not have the ability to side load, it opens a plethora of issues on its own
- Jailbreak to allow another App Store is a form of side loading.
- A minority of users making noise for "openness" should reexamine if they truly want an iPhone or Android, to me it seems they crave the Android openness
- Vote with your wallet instead of forcing others into your beliefs, I have since the iPhone was introduced
- Companies are going against Apple due to pure greed and profits, not to allow people to have options
- I do believe the iPhone has a level of security and privacy inherent to it that encourages governments to dismantle it. Otherwise, why would large external companies create tools to bypass it or even have governments regulate it
Where do I assume that? I don't.
I am saying we as users do not know what an Apple solution would be and find it odd that many Apple supporters choose the "OMG World is ending" scenario.
btw - OMD?
Somebody explained this already…
Digital Markets Act: Commission welcomes political agreement on rules to ensure fair and open digital markets
The Commission welcomes the swift political agreement reached yesterday between the European Parliament and EU Member States on the Digital Markets Act (DMA).
My condolences for the $10k+.
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unauthorized?
If alternate store(s) or alternate method(s) of install are allowed, what, or why, do you assume they (apps) are "unauthorized "?
The current state of Apple charging a 30% cut of subscriptions and not allowing anyone else access is going away.
Apple should accept this and lead on an alternative before it is done for them.
Apple should accept this and lead on an alternative before it is done for them.
Much like how they had Intel versions of Mac OS X in the lab alongside PowerPC versions -- "just in case" -- I really hope Apple are working on some solutions that better recognize where the regulation situation is going.
This is not going away.
They can either get in front of things and create a solution they can live with, somewhat on their own terms, or something probably worse for them will get forced upon them.
Yep I agree. Apple systems are CLEARLY not meant for Linus. He is, like GamersNexus, a pure "GET IN THE CASE!!!! MOD IT!!!!" person. Apple systems are for people like me, click buy, wait a bit for it to be delivered, and use the product for work. Not for tinkering around in it.
And once it become successful Apple will say “\o/ wooohhh we invented sideloading, amazing gorgeous, full advanced, look at this… WOW”, and try to patent it. LOL
I don't do this with Apple, but I do this with all Windows PCs (except when building my own of course). I format the drive and install fresh. Microsoft finally made it easier with I think it started with Windows 8 with the Windows Media Creation Tool. Just downloaded the latest ISO on that, used Rufus and installed fresh Windows on new hardware.
Still is not proof of "vendor lock in". I am free to drop my iPhone in a hole and get an Android. I also do not see Apple doing anti-competitive behavior.Somebody explained this already…
Digital Markets Act: Commission welcomes political agreement on rules to ensure fair and open digital markets
The Commission welcomes the swift political agreement reached yesterday between the European Parliament and EU Member States on the Digital Markets Act (DMA).ec.europa.eu
My condolences for the $10k+.
Which is exactly the reason they're making macOS more like iOS by the day. They're greedy and they see a chance for squeezing even more money from consumers by limiting their choice.
I’m all for Apple being greedy. I’m just tired of hearing Tim Cook‘s claims how noble and motivated by ethics he and Apple is.
It's the old "don't piss on me but tell me it's raining" joke..
he is only concerned about losing money and control. yeah there is a risk with sideloading if you download apps from shady places but it's not a bad thing having more control over your device. if you think it's dangerous then don't do it. simple. you can stay in apples little safe space they created to have control over you.
also they can make it difficult to find and put up a scary warning to deter people. on android i think you had to enable a hidden dev settings menu by tap the build code a few times and then go in to enable it. so wasn't something the average person would know how to access.
sideloading is not bad. Apple don't seem to have a problem with it on macOS. sure they've love it if you only bought apps through their store but they aren't about to stop you going to a developers website and downloading it directly. That's all sideloading is really. Apple has control over and makes $ off every single app that goes onto iPhone. If sideloading were allowed then they lose $ and control. They don't care about your privacy. that's just the excuse.
also they can make it difficult to find and put up a scary warning to deter people. on android i think you had to enable a hidden dev settings menu by tap the build code a few times and then go in to enable it. so wasn't something the average person would know how to access.
sideloading is not bad. Apple don't seem to have a problem with it on macOS. sure they've love it if you only bought apps through their store but they aren't about to stop you going to a developers website and downloading it directly. That's all sideloading is really. Apple has control over and makes $ off every single app that goes onto iPhone. If sideloading were allowed then they lose $ and control. They don't care about your privacy. that's just the excuse.
And to be clear..
"Side Loading" is an illicit sounding term for "installing software of your choosing".
The false framing Apple is trying to hold up in defense of funneling everything through their App Store is so tiring.
"App Stores" aren't needed -- at all -- even on iOS
???
Accept they will give it a goofy name that is impossible to remember, like “InfinityLoading” or something.