Disagreeing isn’t trolling. Not defending your view and attacking a person for theirs is trolling. It’s also a character flaw. The title of the thread is it’s time to accept the price is fair. It’s not fair and it’s not even close to being fair. If you don’t want to hear conflicting views then don’t come to forums where people argue their view.
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Time to accept that $550 is a "fair" price
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The people who complain about the price of the AirPods Max are the same people who complain about the price of the Mac Pro 2019.
They can't afford it. And when they buy it, they expect perfection (the best, the fastest, the insert everything feature that should beat everyone else at this price point) because...they couldn't afford it to begin with.
It's Apple. It's over-engineered. It's the convenience of being in the Apple eco-system. They should have produced an audiophile-like product with the resources they have, but they didn't. They chose to make a luxury and lifestyle product to cater to their customers who are aware of the Apple tax.
They can't afford it. And when they buy it, they expect perfection (the best, the fastest, the insert everything feature that should beat everyone else at this price point) because...they couldn't afford it to begin with.
It's Apple. It's over-engineered. It's the convenience of being in the Apple eco-system. They should have produced an audiophile-like product with the resources they have, but they didn't. They chose to make a luxury and lifestyle product to cater to their customers who are aware of the Apple tax.
Don’t assume ‘everybody’ who criticises the price does so because they can’t afford it. That is a slippery slope and a gross exaggeration that can’t possibly define every single person. Some people don’t see the value in certain products based on what they offer, not always because finance is limited. If everybody here couldn’t afford £550, I highly doubt they’d own any Apple products either or even be able to afford the facilities to comment online for that matter lol.
Yes, that's true. Because there are people who can truly afford it without batting an eyelid and expect they deserve the best and should be served the best. So delusions of grandeur. LOL.
What other Apple headphone products cost $550? It's easy to buy an AirPods or Pro, an iPhone, an iPad, or a MacBook Air, etc. That's cheap enough compared to other competitors in the market. And I believe one of more of these can be used to access the internet, no?
When you're talking about an Apple category within itself (AirPods Max and Mac Pro) with a high price tag, people will always want to see what it is and what the pricing is all about.
What other Apple headphone products cost $550? It's easy to buy an AirPods or Pro, an iPhone, an iPad, or a MacBook Air, etc. That's cheap enough compared to other competitors in the market. And I believe one of more of these can be used to access the internet, no?
When you're talking about an Apple category within itself (AirPods Max and Mac Pro) with a high price tag, people will always want to see what it is and what the pricing is all about.
Yeah, that's incorrect. The ANC on the H95 is equal to if not superior to the AirPods Max. The build quality blows the Airpods Max away, and its not even close. Metal, leather, magnetic ear cups (done first). Not only does the build quality blow them away, they are so much more comfortable to wear its not even funny. The sound is also better than the APM and the control knobs functionality and the ability to control how much noise cancelling or transparency you want is truly great. The case and accessories the H95 come with also make the APM look like something out of a bargain bin.
I will say that the transparency mode is slightly better on the APM and that switching between multiple devices is quicker on the APM. But for everything else the APM aren't in the same league as the B&O H95 and that is just simple fact. Which honestly that's to be expected as you are paying $250 more for the H95's.
It’s not true at all. The headphone market is jam packed full of excellent headphones and the Apple ones are not the only choice out there. They are not the best either, just very good in certain respects.
I was being sarcastic.
I never or any other person claims they are the best. All I'm saying is people temper expectations when paying for their products.
Whenever apple intros a product it usually falls on sales only months later. I fully expect retailers will discount to 399 later in 2021. Same as the other AirPods. Homepods etc.
The better question is who pays msrp for apple products? I never do. So no, 550 isn’t a fair price at least for me. But I wouldn’t even pay 399 for them. There’s still much better to buy (IMO)even at that price.
The better question is who pays msrp for apple products? I never do. So no, 550 isn’t a fair price at least for me. But I wouldn’t even pay 399 for them. There’s still much better to buy (IMO)even at that price.
You can't define "fair" price because that is totally subjective. The market will decide if it is willing to support that price for what the product is. It is incredibly premature to say one way or another if the market will support the price in the long term because of the limited early release, and because most early buyers are either scalpers, people that intend to return them if the don't like them, and people that have to have the latest and greatest no matter the cost.
This will go either one of two ways: it will be like the original Airpods, a resounding success, or like the Homepod a complete flop.
Keep this in mind though: the airpods created a demand for reliable truly wireless earbuds that early adopters quickly were able to demonstrate the value and appeal of to the average consumer, who started buying them en masse. Apple's roughly $8 billion in Airpod sales, if its own business, would be ahead of Foot Locker, Motorola, and AMD on the Fortune 500 according to Forbes. That might happen with Airpods Max, sure, maybe even on a smaller scale. But, the market for large over-ear headphones is significantly smaller. And, like I said, the Airpods like other great Apple products (ipod, ipad, iphone) fulfilled a need people didn't realize they had. What problem do the Airpods Max solve? What need do they fill? Maybe Apple intends them to be just a niche product that will appeal to a small number of people, like the Mac Pro. Again, I don't know the answer to these questions and they are intended to be rhetorical.
This will go either one of two ways: it will be like the original Airpods, a resounding success, or like the Homepod a complete flop.
Keep this in mind though: the airpods created a demand for reliable truly wireless earbuds that early adopters quickly were able to demonstrate the value and appeal of to the average consumer, who started buying them en masse. Apple's roughly $8 billion in Airpod sales, if its own business, would be ahead of Foot Locker, Motorola, and AMD on the Fortune 500 according to Forbes. That might happen with Airpods Max, sure, maybe even on a smaller scale. But, the market for large over-ear headphones is significantly smaller. And, like I said, the Airpods like other great Apple products (ipod, ipad, iphone) fulfilled a need people didn't realize they had. What problem do the Airpods Max solve? What need do they fill? Maybe Apple intends them to be just a niche product that will appeal to a small number of people, like the Mac Pro. Again, I don't know the answer to these questions and they are intended to be rhetorical.
I don't see these selling well at all. I think they will have a very small niche user base and that Apple will ultimately drop the price of them. I actually felt the price of the original homepod was justified because I felt most other home speakers focused too much on being "smart" but not very good at playing quality music. But at the end of the day most people who buy home speakers don't care about that. They want Alexa to buy things for them and don't really care about how good the music quality is. The same will apply to the Airpods Max. People can go out and buy really good wireless headphones for much less and the slight better music quality isn't going to mean much to most people in my opinion.
Criticising a product on a forum designed to discuss such products isn’t trolling mate.
People come to forums to give their point. Calling out a person for their view is a form of trolling. Just argue your point and understand others won't agree.
Soooo, these things are sold out through springs, so how could you say there's no demand??
also, for the HomePod, that was a great device, music quality A plus!!!!
Sold out because of an extremely low inventory. Do you really think that every time Apple launches a new product they are "surprised" by the demand? They have people who's entire division is based on supply and demand and its calculated down to the most finite of details. They made very very few of these to gauge manufacturing supplier orders and will then build them accordingly.
And the homepod is a great device but it also sold out initially and the overall sales for it have been very low.
A price is only fair if you, the person buying it, is receiving what you consider is worth the cost.
If the transaction is not fair to you, then it is not fair exchange so you find something else.
It doesn't matter if you purcahse something from 50 cents to 200K.
If there isn't fair exchange, then you will not be happy with whatever the thing is.
How much time and effort do I have to put forth to reach $500?
Is the thing I am wanting to buy worth that amount of time and effort?
Yes or No. Your personal decision.
Decision made. On to the next decision.
If the transaction is not fair to you, then it is not fair exchange so you find something else.
It doesn't matter if you purcahse something from 50 cents to 200K.
If there isn't fair exchange, then you will not be happy with whatever the thing is.
How much time and effort do I have to put forth to reach $500?
Is the thing I am wanting to buy worth that amount of time and effort?
Yes or No. Your personal decision.
Decision made. On to the next decision.
Apple sells a number of headphones from the Beats line up at lower prices Up to the Apple Airpod Max. They therefore, provide a number of products to meet the needs of people at varying price points. Plenty of examples in their other product ranges to illustrate this strategy. If it is not for you then there are plenty of great alternatives with it ultimately coming down to price sensitivity and people’s needs. I am no audiophile, however, will buy the Airpods Max because to me it is worth it and offers convenience along with quality. Will be using them for home use (video calls, watching movies, music) only. When out and about and at the gym will use the Airpod Pro because that meets this need better. For some though, they can get this with cheaper headphones and that is their choice. Wouldnt surprise me in the least if Apple ends up selling a cheaper Airpods Max along with an Airpods Max Pro given the feedback seen across the board.
I’ve read it and most in the thread. People very upset either way it seems. I care even less today than I ever have if I’m truthfully honest
I don't really know what that means. Yeah a certain number of people will pay for a limited amount of items for sale. That in no way makes the product a success just because its "sold out."
meaning lots of reviews are saying they are worth it.... think of it as a new class of headphones, definitely not cheap and plastic...
I will decide if $550 is a fair price after I put this headphone through it’s paces, time will tell.
It will have to be remarkable considering others on the market now have come down in price and are very good for my needs.
If Apple is serious about high quality audio then they need to get serious about the audio quality via Apple Music. Headphones are only as good as the source of the music. I rest my case.
It will have to be remarkable considering others on the market now have come down in price and are very good for my needs.
If Apple is serious about high quality audio then they need to get serious about the audio quality via Apple Music. Headphones are only as good as the source of the music. I rest my case.
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Hmm I’ll take that as a “no”
For you!? All good! I’m just saying what some expert reviewers are now saying ....