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Time to tell Apple where they can stick Yosemite?-and it's where the sun don't shine.
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I only read this part haha you don't get on the internet much do you. I don't need your permission for anything. What time should I be in tonight dad?
No problems here with Yo (other than the cartoon interface... :roll eyes: ) and like you it solved problems with Mavericks (sleep/wake issues) that I hadn't been able to solve. So it's been an improvement for my machines.
Sounds like user error to me.
Agree...If I can load and have no issues with Yosemite, than it must be user error.
It is interesting that with the limited (compared to Windows) configuration options available, that some have so many major problems--and others (like myself) had a seamless update from Mavericks.
Yosemite has been a non issue on all our Mac`s, Apple will likely continue to improve on it. Not wild about the UI, equally it works, if it doesn't for you just revert to Mavericks, as realistically no one is so concerned, least of all Apple.
Q-6
Q-6
Double shrug. Loving Yosemite, on an upgraded mid-2012 cMBP. Rock-solid.
Judging by this thread - am I obligated to put the above in a 4000 word tome?
Judging by this thread - am I obligated to put the above in a 4000 word tome?
TL;DR. What OS was as big or bigger disaster than Yosemite? Lion. Major issues with things not working. Had to hard boot due to not coming out of sleep was a real gem of a bug.
Yosemite has had some quirks but I wouldn't call it a disaster.
Yosemite has had some quirks but I wouldn't call it a disaster.
It is interesting that with the limited (compared to Windows) configuration options available, that some have so many major problems--and others (like myself) had a seamless update from Mavericks.
I have a theory that the problems only occur with 2013+ models. May well be wrong though.
You've posted this like 500 times on this forum...let's get creative, shall we?
Seriously, if you depend on your system THAT MUCH for business, follow this simple advice: DO NOT UPGRADE!
Why do you think there are businesses still on Windows XP? It is because those businesses got crappy developers that only coded for a specific OS or browser. Upgrading would cause their applications to break. They TESTED it.
TEST the operating system before you upgrade. If your system cannot suffer from any issues, simply do not upgrade.
Why did you upgrade in the first place? If it aint broke, don't fix it. It is not like you were on Leopard, Mavericks is still okay to use.
Why do you think there are businesses still on Windows XP? It is because those businesses got crappy developers that only coded for a specific OS or browser. Upgrading would cause their applications to break. They TESTED it.
TEST the operating system before you upgrade. If your system cannot suffer from any issues, simply do not upgrade.
Why did you upgrade in the first place? If it aint broke, don't fix it. It is not like you were on Leopard, Mavericks is still okay to use.
Other than its performance being generally sluggish (animations etc), no.
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I've only been a member of this forum since 2005, but since then I can't recall a single OS X or iOS release that hasn't caused 'nightmares' for some, including professionals in various fields.
What version of OS X are you on, that you feel is the most stable? Because I can pretty much guarantee you that if you spend 5-10 minutes using the forum search function, you're going to find people having similar issues with that version's .0, .1, and .2 versions that people are having with Yosemite.
I'm sorry you're having trouble. Really, I am. But the only selective bias here is in assuming that because you and some others are having trouble, that it MUST be everyone else - the numerous people who are finding Yosemite to be quite fine - that are somehow using it wrong.
So, rather than troubleshoot, you rant... great. Feel better? Because this has not fixed your broken mac, and is unlikely to in the near future. Screaming about what you feel are Apple's problems and how they just aren't listening doesn't make them listen. Giving feedback where Apple actually does listen, including clearly explaining what your problems are, will stand a better chance.
No, I mean it. Writing a wall of text that only amounts to "Yosemite sucks and Apple sucks and THEY BETTER FIX IT OR ELSE!" does not give anyone enough info to fix your issue.
Yeah, see, this doesn't help. Apple doesn't make apps called music, photography or communication. Printing it does do. WiFi it does do. So, you should probably detail to them your problems with printing and WiFi.
Considering that "the powers that be" at Apple are not going to be hanging out in this forum, and aren't going to read through your wall of text, it looks like this is just a rant. Sorry to break it to you.
I've installed Yosemite on three personally owned Macs, and just deployed it to about 50 iMacs at work. Unlike Windows, I didn't need to resort to a third party software package to set up my own image or deal with image servers to deploy. I just run an update, clicked the install button and walked away. Easy peasy.
What problems did you have that made yours not easy to install?
So, does this mean your mac is no longer booting? Or something higher level. Again, "it doesn't work" doesn't cut it.
Funny you should say that, because Yosemite was probably by far under the widest beta test I've seen for any piece of Apple software. Even non developers had official betas they could try out, without paying a dime.
And to be fair, the first beta of Yosemite was a real dog. VERY unstable. And then it improved dramatically leading up to the launch, no doubt because of some of the feedback they received.
So, I'm not sure how much more liaising Apple could've done here, save for Craig Federighi personally doing the coding for each and every developer that needed to update. Devs and ordinary users had PLENTY of access to Yosemite ahead of its official launch.
Again, explain what you want done here. It's not like Yosemite came out of nowhere; it was announced well in advance. Developers had beta access; it was pretty easy to get. What more should Apple have done?
Well, you don't HAVE to upgrade if you don't want to. Mountain Lion and Mavericks continue to be supported for now.
Oh, yeah, looks like I "reproduced" parts of your post without e-mailing you first. Whoopsie.
Though, it appears you've been doing some copying of your own.
Thats the same username as the one being used on Cnet, so I think it's the same guy.
This happens with every version of OS X when it comes out.. People complain how something looks, afraid to update, someone doesn't do a fresh install so they blame Apple for the problems, etc..
I don't have any problems after I did a clean install when 10.10 came out, besides bluetooth issues due to hardware...
I don't have any problems after I did a clean install when 10.10 came out, besides bluetooth issues due to hardware...
Apple doesn't really let you troubleshoot anymore. Now-a-days it's either the computer is working (bugs aside) or it's FUBAR'd and needs to be repaired/replaced by Apple. Heck, even things as simple as modding the dock have gotten harder and harder.
So actual tech-support type questions have slowly disappeared, because the only acceptable "Apple approved" answer is to "take it to an apple store". The only other types of posts that remain are "What should I buy" or "Apple sux".
Oh well, at least it's 1mm slimmer than the last version.
Only in the past few years, since their QC has plummeted. It used to be people queueing up in lines for Snow Leopard (Apple even handed out complementary water bottles) and than racing home to install it ASAP. Now even the Apple faithful take a more wait-and-see approach.
This still happens though. Every time a new OS hits the Mac App Store it takes forever to download or you're better off waiting until the servers are clear.
you're kidding right? much of what happens on this forum (and macrumors forums in general) is troubleshooting; finding fixes, and when needed, workarounds. really, outside of the whining threads, THAT'S mostly what this forum is for. and btw, modding the dock is NOT a general OS X function...it's not apple's job to support modding the OS (which i do a lot of
). we need a separate forum here for whining, and this particular forum can go back to asking for, and providing, help...
First of all, this is not true. Yosemite was installed on over 40% of Macs just 2 month after its release. Snow Leopard was at 27% half a year after its release (source: http://appleinsider.com/articles/10/02/27/mac_os_x_market_share_up_29_leopard_still_most_common). I find it odd that you measure the popularity of the OS by 'people queuing up in lines'. How should one queue up in line for a download?
Also, there is no doubt that Apple has been rushing things lately, even more then they usually do (and Apple has been notorious for early and buggy releases for its software since at least a decade ago). But again, its quite interesting that Snow Leopard is now perceived as a pinnacle of OS X stability, while at the same time being the OS with the critical bug that could destroy all your data.
I remember the massive complaints about Lion and Mountain Lion on these very forums and an awful drama when Mavericks came out ('Apple does not care about Pros anymore! They try to turn Mac into an iPhone! Its so slow and buggy!'). And now the same thing happens with Yosemite. So nothing to get exited about. After few years, everyone will remember Yosemite as that 'last real OS X' before Apple spoiled it all