Well my 256 mb mp3 player seems to hold enough music for me, so 4gb is plenty, unless of course you want to hold your entire music collection, but in my opinion you don't really need to listen to all your music at one time. I'm sure one day the iPhone will have storage like 20, 30, 40 GB etc.
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Tired of 4 gig iPhone bashers!
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Or we can think of the iPhone as the 2nd Gen Nano addition/replacement. I know I don't have to carry around my Nano anymore.
Sounds to me like you're trying to justify your purchase to yourself.
But hey, if that makes you feel better, have at it.
Not to be rude, but I feel 4 gig bashers are justifying there purchase of spending an extra $100 by choosing to bash the 4 gig.
Wow, this is certainly one of the most useless threads I've read since iDay. Can't people understand that people have different needs and wants? Why don't we leave it at this? 4GB iPhone users have bigger penises.
Disclosure- I got an 8GB iPhone.
Disclosure- I got an 8GB iPhone.
I have an 8 GB and I was instantly out of space, since I have 13 GB of music, and probably another couple gigs of podcasts, photos, and ripped DVDs I'd like to get on the device.
I really want a 32 GB iPhone. 32 GB NAND flash is available, but the component cost would be about $200 from Samsumg, so it may be a while before we see it in an iPhone. Apple paid Samsumg $48 for the 8 GB NAND Flash module, so perhaps we'll be getting 16 GB in the future since, by extrapolation, it would only run about $96 or so.
However, I have nothing against people with the 4 GB...their money, their choice.
NAND cost data taken from:
http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20070706/135572/
I really want a 32 GB iPhone. 32 GB NAND flash is available, but the component cost would be about $200 from Samsumg, so it may be a while before we see it in an iPhone. Apple paid Samsumg $48 for the 8 GB NAND Flash module, so perhaps we'll be getting 16 GB in the future since, by extrapolation, it would only run about $96 or so.
However, I have nothing against people with the 4 GB...their money, their choice.
NAND cost data taken from:
http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20070706/135572/
My feeling about iPods has always been that I'd love to be able to sync my entire library, so the 60 and 80gb's are great for that. Short of that, I have to put the music on it that I want to listen to, when I want to listen to it. So, I got a 4gb because I sync my Nano and iPhone far more frequently than I need to in order to keep the music selection unique. That said, it would be cool to be able to keep more music and videos on the iPhone, but mainly for the coolness/show factor. Considering I was being entirely irresponsible by charging the iPhone in the first place, I charged $106 less by getting a 4gb.
I got the 8 gig not really for music or video cause the 4 gig would suffice for that or I have my iPod if I need to carry more.
The reason I choose the 8 gig was that at some point Apple may allow us to store other things on it like the iPod as a portable HD, and than I would want the biggest one available.
Plus I think that it will help the resale value when they come out with a larger and newer one down the road.
I mean look at the Nano, it's the best selling iPod Apple has and comes in 2,4 or 8 gig and the 4 gig being the better selling one.
So for most people to have 2-3 gig for music is obviously plenty.
The reason I choose the 8 gig was that at some point Apple may allow us to store other things on it like the iPod as a portable HD, and than I would want the biggest one available.
Plus I think that it will help the resale value when they come out with a larger and newer one down the road.
I mean look at the Nano, it's the best selling iPod Apple has and comes in 2,4 or 8 gig and the 4 gig being the better selling one.
So for most people to have 2-3 gig for music is obviously plenty.
I have a 43 GB music / video library on my computer, but I will only be buying the 4GB iPhone. I simply can't afford the 8GB. Also I will not be loading all my music on (obviously) I only plan on loading movies on it and using my iPod for my music still. I'm not buying the iPhone for it's iPod function, I'm buying it because, in my mind, it's one of the few decent phones out there.
Has the snob level of the Apple community reached as low as starting threads over why your 8GB is better than someones 4GB? Give me a break.
I don't really see the difference between the two, really on the iphone your going to store maybe a gig of your music and maybe movie or two, so total 2.5 gig or so. Still plenty of room since you can't put many movies on it.
When I'm out I use it for listening to music, I think of it more as a shuffle than a video ipod. (I have one of those), as an internet tablet it works just great, and when I'm at home and on my wifi and want to watch a movie, its much more convient to stream it from the server.
The server hosts the same video libraries used by my apple tv. That library is about 100 GB and growing. So unless they have a 100GB iphone in the works Its never going to have enough memory.
So there....
Wow, I shouldn't be surprised that there are 4GB bashers. I couldn't be more happy with my 4GB phone. $100 for 4 gb is insane. If I wanted that much space, I'd carry around a thumbdrive and transfer music around when I need to.
I have a 4 for myself, my son has a 8, I really dont use it that much and 4 is plenty, also when the new ones come out i will buy another....
Nope, 4GB bashing is completely justified. Audio quality drops with less space and more songs and same with video.
If your are going to buy a Porsche, you get the best one out there, you don't buy the 2006 model and drive 50 on the freeway with the top closed.
-B!
If your are going to buy a Porsche, you get the best one out there, you don't buy the 2006 model and drive 50 on the freeway with the top closed.
-B!
What are these comments based on?
I have had no AUDIO problems based on the amount of storage I have.
I do have audio problems, but I had that before I put any data on it.
Wow!!! Compensating for the lack of something else are we, I guess money has fixed that issue for you.
No evidence of that whats so ever, people with the larger systems tend to pack more into them, I know I have 1.5 terrabytes on my network, and will likely need more very soon.
The only time I'd like to have more is to watch movies, and for that I have both a video ipod and a fast internet connection I can access over wifi to stream movies to the iphone.
my decision was based on finanaces, I really have no need or desire for a porcshe.
I wanted an 8gb for a while then I realized I really want a 4gb. I have 60gb of video & music on my ipod right now. Until Apple comes out with a 80gb iphone I will be taking my ipod AND my iphone around with me. I might as well save some money and get the smaller version.
In response to the OP, yeah, bashing something/someone b/c they made a different choice is pretty weak (xenophobia anyone?).
I won't *bash* the 4GB choice and I certainly won't say anyone is wrong for making that choice, but I honestly can say I don't understand it -- either economically or practically.
I'm sure people have really good reasons that make sense to them for going 4GB or 8GB...I went 4GB and first and decided to upgrade.
I originally bought the 4GB, thought I could live with it (much along the lines of the rationale espoused in this thread: my music library is 30GB, I'm going to have to triage anyway, why not save the $100?). Well, I triaged and found that 4GB for music, videos, photos just wasnt enough even with the most parsimonious of selection policies. Further, I wondered what would happen if 3rd party apps, file system support, et al were ever released. Wow, then I'm really screwed. I returned my 4GB and ate the $50 restock and scored an 8GB. Much happier!
First, the iPhone is not really a poorman's device (or poorwomans). In the grander scheme of cost of ownership $100 is statistically insignificant. For someone to argue that $100 of fixed cost up front on an item that not only is already $500 and incurs an atleast $60 monthly recurring cost (even more when you add regulatory fees and taxes) is really an uphill argument -- tenuous at best.
Second, consider the economics: $100 for 2X the flash? Apple either seriously upcharges on the 4GB or discounts the 8GB...either way their margins are NOT the same on both devices. My inclination is that the 4GB is upcharged (would make sense from a GP perspective). If you really want to make the "value" argument, you are getting more back for your buck with the 8GB.
Finally, it's usage. I couldn't fit my shuffle mix, recently playeds, 4 episodes of the office, and my last 2 months of photos on a 4GB. That's what I want my device to hold (that's just me, remember, YMMV) -- that cinched my decision to upgrade to the 8.
I won't *bash* the 4GB choice and I certainly won't say anyone is wrong for making that choice, but I honestly can say I don't understand it -- either economically or practically.
I'm sure people have really good reasons that make sense to them for going 4GB or 8GB...I went 4GB and first and decided to upgrade.
I originally bought the 4GB, thought I could live with it (much along the lines of the rationale espoused in this thread: my music library is 30GB, I'm going to have to triage anyway, why not save the $100?). Well, I triaged and found that 4GB for music, videos, photos just wasnt enough even with the most parsimonious of selection policies. Further, I wondered what would happen if 3rd party apps, file system support, et al were ever released. Wow, then I'm really screwed. I returned my 4GB and ate the $50 restock and scored an 8GB. Much happier!
First, the iPhone is not really a poorman's device (or poorwomans). In the grander scheme of cost of ownership $100 is statistically insignificant. For someone to argue that $100 of fixed cost up front on an item that not only is already $500 and incurs an atleast $60 monthly recurring cost (even more when you add regulatory fees and taxes) is really an uphill argument -- tenuous at best.
Second, consider the economics: $100 for 2X the flash? Apple either seriously upcharges on the 4GB or discounts the 8GB...either way their margins are NOT the same on both devices. My inclination is that the 4GB is upcharged (would make sense from a GP perspective). If you really want to make the "value" argument, you are getting more back for your buck with the 8GB.
Finally, it's usage. I couldn't fit my shuffle mix, recently playeds, 4 episodes of the office, and my last 2 months of photos on a 4GB. That's what I want my device to hold (that's just me, remember, YMMV) -- that cinched my decision to upgrade to the 8.
Sounds to me like you're trying to justify your purchase to yourself.
But hey, if that makes you feel better, have at it.
Ditto. Hahahaha...
Exactly what I was thinking...
One.
The way I look at it is, I saved myself about $115 (with tax) buying the 4gb over the 8gb.
that's $115 I can put towards the next generation iPhone.
I guess if you are on your own plan. I'm on a family plan. Before the iPhone upgrade we were paying $116/month for 5, count 'em, 5 phones, which includes 1 with a $5/month texting plan, and mine with the $10 texting/net plan. So for $10 more a month, I upgraded to the iPhone texting/net plan. New monthly price of $126. so in the end we would take $101 / 5 = $20.20. per line base. Add on my $20 iPhone plan (since it shouldn't be the other peoples responsibilty to split the cost). $40.20/monthly for my iPhone (everyone else pays $20.20, except for the person who has the $5 texting plan, that gets added to their $20.20).
Just wanted to show that it is possible to have a plan cheaper than $60/month.
BTW, We are on an older Cingular Family plan, 450mins, unlimited m2m, nights/weekends. $40 month, including the first line. Each of the other 4 lines are $9.99 each. Roughly $80 for the phones. Add in the taxes. $101/month.
-Derek-
that's $115 I can put towards the next generation iPhone.
I guess if you are on your own plan. I'm on a family plan. Before the iPhone upgrade we were paying $116/month for 5, count 'em, 5 phones, which includes 1 with a $5/month texting plan, and mine with the $10 texting/net plan. So for $10 more a month, I upgraded to the iPhone texting/net plan. New monthly price of $126. so in the end we would take $101 / 5 = $20.20. per line base. Add on my $20 iPhone plan (since it shouldn't be the other peoples responsibilty to split the cost). $40.20/monthly for my iPhone (everyone else pays $20.20, except for the person who has the $5 texting plan, that gets added to their $20.20).
Just wanted to show that it is possible to have a plan cheaper than $60/month.
BTW, We are on an older Cingular Family plan, 450mins, unlimited m2m, nights/weekends. $40 month, including the first line. Each of the other 4 lines are $9.99 each. Roughly $80 for the phones. Add in the taxes. $101/month.
-Derek-
I wanted the 4 GB iPhone because it was a good way to get into the iPhone world plus it holds enough music for me in general
If $115 is going to make or break your purchase of an iPhone then, yeah definitely go for the 4 gig...but I know personally that even 8 gets pretty tight.
To me the squeal point is this:
If your entire collection will fit on an 8 but not on a 4, then I would get the 8.
If your music won't fit on an 8, then a 4 isn't that big a deal since you will have to pick and choose anyway.
Also if you love having lots of video, 4 is probably not a good way to go.
Hope you enjoy it!