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To All The 7" Naysayers...

So you've never seen an analyst report that was pure B.S. before? I would say most of them are. I still say that Apple is not going to do a 7" model.
 
If they release a 7 inch tablet, I would buy it. I don't think they can abandon the current sizes because so many people are happy with them but I could see them releasing a slightly smaller version at a lower price point so they can compete (if any other tablets ever get released that is). And if they were able to keep the resolution the same between the 7 inch and 9.7 inch it would quiet people about the retina display on an iPad.
 
They won't abandon the current size. I do think they will come out with a 7" device, but I don't think it will be until about the same time as a iPad v3 in 2012.
 
As someone who is thinking about buying an iPad, I'm torn on how I feel about the 7 inch size.

On one hand it might be nice at times to have something smaller and lighter... but on the other hand, it won't fit in my pocket so I can't have it with me at all times. So... if I have to carry it separately, it might as well be slightly larger, right?

I don't know. Like I said, I'm torn. :)
 
In the pictures of the current Samsung tab 7" it's basically half the size of the current iPad screen. There is no way I'd buy a device in that form factor. If I want small I'll use my iPhone. I want the iPad as a notebook replacement for most tasks and 7" is just too small.
 
He says he knows all this from talking to the supply chain, in particular Taiwanese contract manufacturer Pegatron, which he said is assembling 20 million CDMA versions of the iPhone 4, further fueling those endless rumors of the iPhone on Verizon.
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This guy sounds like he compiled a bunch of Macrumor threads a basically spoon fed everyone what they wanted to hear....
 
Im holding off buying a tablet untill i see the 7" version come out. Just seems to me the current ipad is too big. i dont intend to only use it stuck home on my couch.

In contrast I find the current ipod touch screen to be too small. A 7" or even a 5" is a nice compromise between size and portability. Apple will release a 7" ipad I have no doubt. They dont dont want to get one-up'd by their competitors.
 
Ugh, I'm SOOOO tired of everyone going nuts based on SPECULATION and RUMORS....

Get excited or not when we see ACTUAL RELEASED PRODUCT... Until then, what's the point in getting all nuts, pointing fingers, crying "YAY" or "Boo"?

If you feel the need/desire for a 7" or "retina" display or whatever, FINE, but until you hear Apple give out a honest to god actual press release, don't get your hopes up for it.
 
wirelessmacuser said:
Feel like reading?

http://technolog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2010/09/20/5143105-7-inch-ipad-2-debut-in-2011
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Honestly, it seems like speculation gone wild.

"Maybe it's making a leap of faith they'll discontinue the 9.7 inch model, but they could continue," Kumar said. "On the flip side, it's a forecasting logistics nightmare." He said imagine juggling the demand between 9.7-inch and 7-inch wifi and 3G models and having to manufacture at least four possible combinations. "It's very likely the current generation will eventually sunset. It may not be a hard stop."
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This bit sounds plausible, but then comes the sucker punch:

TheStreet called the development "puzzling," but brought up two good points: "Clearly it signals the possibility that Apple sees a threat to its tablet franchise at the lower price levels. But Apple may also want to shrink the device so it doesn't cannibalize its notebook sales."
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This statement ignores the facts that laptops and tablets are completely different - the former is a mobile computer meant for efficient production, whilst the latter for efficient and comfortable consumption. It is true that iPad sales have deeply cut into netbook territory (seriously, netbooks were never useful with their tiny keyboards and often inadequate specs) but I don't see them posing a threat to Apple's own products.

I think that the number of people who won't buy an Apple laptop because of the iPad is probably very very low. On the other hand, the number of people that would be pissed at the current size iPad being discontinued "in favour" of a smaller model will probably be rather huge.

There's three things that you need to remember when it comes to analysts
1) you don't need any qualifications to be called one
2) even a blind man will hit a bullseye if he throws enough darts
3) the first part in the word analyst is anal
 
One point the article makes that I hadn't thought about is that producing both sizes would make deciding how many to produce much more difficult. I don't think anyone really knows whether 7" or 10" will be the most popular size, especially if the tablets are quite similar otherwise. So if Apple does produce both sizes they run the risk of not being able to make enough of one size while having extra stock of the other. Settling on one size or the other would make life much easier.
 
wirelessmacuser said:
Feel like reading?

http://technolog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2010/09/20/5143105-7-inch-ipad-2-debut-in-2011
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Yeah you can really trust an article which claims

The current iPad has a 9.7-inch widescreen, but those almost 3 inches seem to be causing a lot of commotion, as Apple's competitors gear up against the iPad with more mobile devices that fall somewhere between the iPad and the iPhone.
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If they can't get basic facts right why are you giving the article any credence at all?



Move on folks, nothing to see here :rolleyes:
 
blomma said:
Look, analysts are the modern equivalent to monkeys typing randomly. Sure enought now and then they will get it right, but not because they are logically analyzing the facts but thanks to pure dumb luck. So do yourself a favor and just ignore anything you read or hear from an analyst.
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I think the above just about sums it up about most "analysts" - contrary to what people seem to believe, they have no actual official inside info, they're just paid to guess.

and it seems this particular "analyst" referred to in the OP's article, Ashok Kumar, has a particularly bad track record at guessing what Apple is going to do...
 
sracer said:
My response to that....

"Feel like thinking?" :rolleyes:
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Try again... :)

https://www.macrumors.com/2010/08/17/7-inch-ipad-to-launch-by-christmas/

http://www.businessinsider.com/7-inch-ipad-2010-8

http://www.pcworld.com/article/203013/rumor_apple_upgrading_ipad_releasing_7inch_model_in_2011.html

http://theappleblog.com/2010/08/18/why-ipad-2-is-coming-and-what-to-expect/

http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/new-rumor-has-apple-set-to-launch-7-inch-ipad-by-christmas/

http://www.techradar.com/news/computing/apple/7-things-apple-should-change-for-ipad-2-669301

http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/7-inch_ipad.php

http://www.9to5mac.com/15735/Apple-producing-5-7-inch-400-mini-iPad-for-2011

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/08/17/rumors_of_new_7_inch_ipad_from_apple_persist.html
 
wirelessmacuser said:
Try again... :)

https://www.macrumors.com/2010/08/17/7-inch-ipad-to-launch-by-christmas/

http://www.businessinsider.com/7-inch-ipad-2010-8

http://www.pcworld.com/article/203013/rumor_apple_upgrading_ipad_releasing_7inch_model_in_2011.html

http://theappleblog.com/2010/08/18/why-ipad-2-is-coming-and-what-to-expect/

http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/new-rumor-has-apple-set-to-launch-7-inch-ipad-by-christmas/

http://www.techradar.com/news/computing/apple/7-things-apple-should-change-for-ipad-2-669301

http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/7-inch_ipad.php

http://www.9to5mac.com/15735/Apple-producing-5-7-inch-400-mini-iPad-for-2011

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/08/17/rumors_of_new_7_inch_ipad_from_apple_persist.html
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So your answer to the question, "feeling like thinking?" is "no". :p

All that you have "proven" is that the internet is an echo-chamber. The plural of "rumor references" is not "fact".
 
bcaslis said:
So you've never seen an analyst report that was pure B.S. before? I would say most of them are. I still say that Apple is not going to do a 7" model.
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Yup, anytime and "analysis" says something, I remind people of the WSJ guy that has been claiming a Verizon iPhone will be coming out for 3 years now... every July he writes his article, citing inside sources, suppliers, yada yada yada... every year, January comes and goes, and no Verizon iPhone.
 
These days, I don't believe ANY rumors until I see an actual Press release FROM APPLE. There is just too much speculation, too many people claiming to have inside information, sources, etc.

Besides, knowing Steve Jobs he can change his mind about the specs on something 3 days before release...
 
Gruber ripped this guy’s track record apart on Daring Fireball. I would like to know how these people get such high profile jobs.

My favorite:

"This is the same Ashok Kumar who on 12 October 2009 issued a “research report” asserting:

“Sales of iPhone through China Unicom, to state it mildly, have been disappointing. Volumes since launch have run at a fraction of stated goals.”

The iPhone did not go on sale through China Unicom until 15 October 2009.”

:D

I don’t think Apple will start fragmenting the iPad line until sales decline.
 
jaw04005 said:
Gruber ripped this guy’s track record apart on Daring Fireball. I would like to know how these people get such high profile jobs.

My favorite:

"This is the same Ashok Kumar who on 12 October 2009 issued a “research report” asserting:

“Sales of iPhone through China Unicom, to state it mildly, have been disappointing. Volumes since launch have run at a fraction of stated goals.”

The iPhone did not go on sale through China Unicom until 15 October 2009.”

:D

I don’t think Apple will start fragmenting the iPad line until sales decline.
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Yes, for wirelessmacuser, feel like reading this?

http://daringfireball.net/2010/09/kumar_track_record
 
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