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That is one hot mess. If Apple introduces a 7" iPad, I would put my money on it replacing the 16GB model. ie. 7" 16 GB WiFi/3G - $499/$629 and leave the 10" 32GB and 64GB models (with new features like front facing camera, etc.) pricing as is. I suppose they could knock $50 off across the line, but I doubt it.

Just my guess, but it seems more Apple-like to me.

I don't think they'll replace any of the current 10" iPads with 7" iPads. I think they'll sell along side them so customers have another choice.
 
I don't think they'll replace any of the current 10" iPads with 7" iPads. I think they'll sell along side them so customers have another choice.
Agree with you on this.

There are capabilities on the 10 inch model that would not be available on the smaller model. For example the landscape keyboard. It's very usable as is. On a 7 inch iPad it would be more like the current iPad in Portrait mode which is not near as usable for typing.
 
I'd like apple to do something like the Toshiba Libretto but in an iPod touch form factor with 3G capabilities and the A4 processor with 512Mb RAM... dual 3.5" screens that fold to fit in your pocket would still be < the size of the iPhone 4 at the current iPod Touch dimensions!


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...because I'd like a "larger" device that I could still put in my pocket to be truly portable... did you look at the link?

That would be great using "two" iPod Touch size dimensions put together to be able to use in landscape or portrait mode...
 
...because I'd like a "larger" device that I could still put in my pocket to be truly portable... did you look at the link?

That would be great using "two" iPod Touch size dimensions put together to be able to use in landscape or portrait mode...

I'm not going to lie to you, but unless you wear cargo pants/shorts every day then you may have a hard time sticking a 7" tablet in your pockets.
 
I'm not going to lie to you, but unless you wear cargo pants/shorts every day then you may have a hard time sticking a 7" tablet in your pockets.
The iPhone/iPod touch is a good size for carrying on your person, the iPad is more like carrying a Netbook.

That's why, IMHO, there really isn't much benefit to a smaller iPad compared to the compromises. But that's just me. I am sure others feel different about it.
 
...because I'd like a "larger" device that I could still put in my pocket to be truly portable... did you look at the link?

That would be great using "two" iPod Touch size dimensions put together to be able to use in landscape or portrait mode...

I'm not going to lie to you, but unless you wear cargo pants/shorts every day then you may have a hard time sticking a 7" tablet in your pockets.

I was taking about the form factor like the Toshiba Libretto which folds but the size of the current iPod Touch...
 
That doesn't give it much validity but I'm really excited at the prospect of having a 7" widescreen iPad. That's one of the main reasons I'd even he looking at the Samsung Tab at all.
 
Agree with you on this.

There are capabilities on the 10 inch model that would not be available on the smaller model. For example the landscape keyboard. It's very usable as is. On a 7 inch iPad it would be more like the current iPad in Portrait mode which is not near as usable for typing.

This is one of the most important reasons why we should not be holding our breath for a 7" iPad.

The following are my objective reasons for rejecting the notion of a 7" iPad.

1. Capabilities due to physical dimensions. The current size of the iPad is what allows the keyboard to be as comfortable as it currently does. This means that doing things such as writing basic texts for emails, documents, presentations, etc. work really well on the current sized iPad. I have played with smaller pieces of paper that might be close to a 7" iPad and I just don't see how it is comfortable to use a keyboard in the similar manner.

As a result, key features on the iPad that work pretty well, such as the Email client, Pages, Keynote, Numbers, and other high-end apps like the Omnigroup stuff are just not going to work as well as on a smaller iPad.

Instead, we would basically be left with scaled-up iPod touch apps instead of scaled down iPad apps.

2. Pricing rubric. At the moment, the pricing for non-contract iOS devices is very linear. From $229 all the way to $829 you have a plethora of devices with different screen sizes, capacities, and 3G ability. $229-$399 is iPod touch. $499-$829 is iPad. There is just not any room for such a device without totally leading to confusion.

3. If we consider point 1 and point 2, we get to the main concern which is confusion in the line. At the moment if you go into an Apple store seeking a non-phone iOS device, the choice is clear. If you want something that fits in your pocket, plays movies, games, has a decent browser and email client, and is with you all the time, there is the iPod touch. It will set you back $229-$399. If you want something that offers demonstrably better productivity and more real estate that allows better typing, iWork apps, and a better reading experience, there is the iPad. It sets you back $499-$699, plus an additional $130 if you want 3G capability.

A 7" will totally confuse a customer, which is something Apple does not want to do. They will cede a size or class of device to another company if it blurs their own line. It will be bigger and more expensive than an iPod touch, and will probably provide a better reading and video experience. It will be smaller and maybe cheaper than the iPad, but won't be as capable in terms of apps and the keyboard.

The valid arguments that I have heard in favor of a 7" iPad are as follows:

1. Size and weight. A smaller iPad would be lighter and be more portable than a 10" iPad. The weight thing I totally understand. I would like to have the iPad be lighter than it is at the moment. Size though, if it can't fit in a pocket, you still need a bag, and I doubt Apple would really go in that direction just to make a size in between the two. On weight, I imagine Apple would work on making the current iPad lighter rather than making it necessarily smaller.

2. Competition with the Kindle and the forever in waiting 7" Android OEM tablets. The kindle is not a direct competitor to the iPad and it never will be. It is just an unconvincing argument that Apple wants to kill the Kindle. If the rumors are true that Apple is done with a 7" tablet, then it is not in anyway a response to competition. It would have been something in the works for much longer, and would be a device that seemingly breaks away from the mode of clean product lines.

3. "Retina" style displays. A 7" iPad would automatically have the same resolution as the 10" iPad and would result in sharper text, pictures, etc. The argument also seems that since it has the same res, all the apps that I had previously mentioned would still be able to work. Again, I just don't see it. Take a Keynote file that you are editing on the current iPad, and open the keyboard so you can edit a slide. Try moving that to a noticeably smaller display and think if that's usable?

I just think that if you list up the arguments for the existence of a 7" iPad and the arguments against the existence of a 7" iPad and there is a lot to overcome.
 
Well if they have a 7" one or not, I just hope they make the next revision lighter. When I am reading it I end up resting the bottom of the screen in my lap so I always have to look down because holding it up for more than 5 minutes is difficult.

I would assume a 7" would be lighter considering it would have less glass and aluminum on the casing.
 
Agree with you that each new model usually brings better battery life.

However, what I was commenting on is the available battery space. If you look at an iPad teardown pic, you will see a majority of the inside is used for the batteries.

If the iPad shrinks to a 7 inch screen, that would be a significant change in the available space for the battery/batteries if they keep the same thickness. Assuming all other is same, except for the smaller display, I believe that battery life would be less than the current version.

I can see your logic behind that idea. But I still could see the iPad having 8+ hours of battery life at least for WiFi. 3g not so much.

I don't believe Apple will have the same design as iPhone 4. I think we'll definitely see a metal back again and have it be a bit bulky - but not too bulky for Jobs' standards. Either way I feel 9.7 inches model is too large for me and 7 inches would be perfect. I hope Apple welcomes both sizes and does not discontinue the 9.7 inch one because some people would prefer a larger tablet.
 
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