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How is that wrong about the refresh rates? Apple doesn't let you set the refresh rates on the iPhone. You can either have it set to a maximum of 120hz or a maximum of 60hz, but the phone dynamically adjusts the rate up to that maximum based on the activity on the phone.

both the s23 and iphone let you set the refresh rate to 60hz, which they should have used for their tests (120 and 60, like other phones)

yeah you need the context, lemme show you
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Thanks, I have always assumed that Low Power Mode used 60Hz, but "Limit Frame Rate" looks much better than Low Power Mode, so I assume Low Power Mode uses even less Hz.
Yw . Lpm does limit the phone to 60hz indeed. Limite frame rate does too , it simply doesn't affect the rest (CPU clock, notifications, brightness, background processing )
 
both the s23 and iphone let you set the refresh rate to 60hz, which they should have used for their tests (120 and 60, like other phones)

yeah you need the context, lemme show you View attachment 2270319
I don’t know how Samsung does it, but Apple’s limit frame rate sets the maximum frame rate at 60hz. It does not fix the frame rate at 60hz. Apple is still dynamically adjusting the frame rate when you use limit frame rate (or low power mode), it just does so up to a lower maximum rate.
 
Sad. We haven't even used the 15PM and many bashing the battery. I honestly take the majority of these tests not that deep. The majority of us don't even use the phone daily how these phones are ran via these tests. I get my 15PM Friday. I'll give it 1-2 weeks before I even make any battery verdicts.
 
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Sad. We haven't even used the 15PM and many bashing the battery. I honestly take the majority of these tests not that deep. The majority of us don't even use the phone daily how these phones are ran via these tests. I get my 15PM Friday. I'll give it 1-2 weeks before I even make any battery verdicts.
Agree on “bashing” without facts and proper experience is not worth taking seriously! Don’t know if I have seen so much of it though. As every year, these early tests hints on a direction of coming results, usually. We should see, according to expectations, better results of the A17 pro, we just have to see more accountable tests and factual experience before judging anything, are definitely with you on that.
 
I bet it will be regular A18 while Pros would have A18 Pro. But in essence yeah, it will be stripped out version of A17.
Belittling something works bad on people's buying decisions as some people would make fun of the word mini.
Apple wants to give people a reason to purchase the iPhone Pro, so A17 sold alongside A18 Pro models makes perfect sense (and is more factual).
 
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Sad. We haven't even used the 15PM and many bashing the battery. I honestly take the majority of these tests not that deep. The majority of us don't even use the phone daily how these phones are ran via these tests. I get my 15PM Friday. I'll give it 1-2 weeks before I even make any battery verdicts.
Sounds like you are trying to justify your purchase. Unfortunately, the facts are there. I also have a 15 Pro Max on pre-order, by the way.
 
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Nope. Think there are reviews on the topic tho, on YouTube iirc. I suppose you could draw a pattern with Samsung's 60 vs 120hz batterie life
Would be interesting to figure out how much one would save on throttling down to 60hz in combination with shutting off the always on screen. Think I’m going to try on my own 14 max when I have good opportunity, just to compare for my own usage.
 
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I bet it will be regular A18 while Pros would have A18 Pro. But in essence yeah, it will be stripped out version of A17.
Belittling something works bad on people's buying decisions as some people would make fun of the word mini.
 
so we get less than an extra hour of efficiency going from 5nm chips to so called super efficient 3nm chips.

Apple. a Buch of Hype and lies about Apple Silicon.

Cant wait til the new 2nm chips come out in 2026.

More Hype and lies.
Or, like every other year, people get hung up on one tiny specification (in this case the 3NM process) and assume it’s going to drastically change something.
Which… it’s not.
Even in the Mac threads, you see people recommending waiting for the M3, which could be anywhere from 6 to 9 months away still, just because it’s on the new 3 nm process.
And I’m sure those same people are going to be complaining when the M3 is announced as a 10% CPU performance increase, a 20% GPU increase, and maybe an extra hour of battery at most just like the iPhones.
Also, as far as I know, Apple hasn’t lied about anything. If anything, they’ve underestimated their new chips, at least in comparison to the benchmarks.
As for battery, they literally promised that it would be identical battery life to the previous 14 series, so the fact we’re seeing any improvement at all is a nice bonus.
 
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Don't even know how long people are sitting on their phones if they run into battery issues....
And here i am with my Mini on 48% at 19:30....

Somehow i don't think i'll have any problems with the 15 Pro ;)
 
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Sad. We haven't even used the 15PM and many bashing the battery. I honestly take the majority of these tests not that deep. The majority of us don't even use the phone daily how these phones are ran via these tests. I get my 15PM Friday. I'll give it 1-2 weeks before I even make any battery verdicts.

I'll take these tests over random user anecdotes any day of the week. You don't need to use the iPhone same way the tests are run, but they provide a good comparison.
 
The test: Continuously surfing the web over 5g until the phone runs out of power:

ModelTime
iPhone 15 Plus14:14
iPhone 15 Pro Max14:02
iPhone 14 Pro Max13:39
iPhone 14 Plus11:57
iPhone 1511:05
iPhone 15 Pro10:53
iPhone 14 Pro10:13
iPhone 149:28
14 plus results don’t seem accurate
 
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