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TomTom Car kit on UK apple store

i dont even like the tomtom app, it by itself is full of fail as well.

EPIC FAIL all the way around.. think im actually about to delete it off my iphone.
 
Hey guys dont forget, apple was involved in that whole EU directive for a common charger/data interface (microusb) starting in 2010, so all you Europeans (and likely US residents as well as i honestly cant see apple maintaining two different hardwares dependent on territory) are going to be stuck with a cradle that wont work with new iphone hardware in less than a year.

Complete and utter fail on TomToms part.
 
kwikdeth said:
Hey guys dont forget, apple was involved in that whole EU directive for a common charger/data interface (microusb) starting in 2010, so all you Europeans (and likely US residents as well as i honestly cant see apple maintaining two different hardwares dependent on territory) are going to be stuck with a cradle that wont work with new iphone hardware in less than a year.

Complete and utter fail on TomToms part.
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All Apple needs to do is to supply a cable; the 30-pin dock connector will stay as is.
 
Skiniftz said:
£100 for a piece of plastic with a £30 SiRF GPS chip in it is a joke. As it stands when driving using the software the GPS signal is constantly lost and the app is generally unresponsive and sluggish rendering it useless. I've gone back to my 6 year old Windows Mobile phone TomTom with bluetooth GPS which totally outperforms the iPhone version in every way.

TomTom can **** off. I have contacted them for a refund.
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You are basically blaming TomTom for Apple's fault, for putting a weak GPS receiver in the iPhone. That's why TomTom had to include a better GPS receiver in the first place.... not to screw you, because that part was done already by Apple. Why don't you return your iPhone and ask for a refund?
 
kwikdeth said:
Hey guys dont forget, apple was involved in that whole EU directive for a common charger/data interface (microusb) starting in 2010, so all you Europeans (and likely US residents as well as i honestly cant see apple maintaining two different hardwares dependent on territory) are going to be stuck with a cradle that wont work with new iphone hardware in less than a year.

Complete and utter fail on TomToms part.
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Didn't APple back away from that? I could see them updating the connector to bring USB3, but it's a big change to move. Seeing as you can get a USB convertor to charge your phone, it doesn't seem to much of a problem. TomTom is just pricing the cradle way too high (and seemingly not taking into account cases that people use).
 
I've said it before and I'll say it again -- if you want to "play" with a GPS turn-by-turn app with your iPhone then buy the $35 (U.S.) CoPilot Live app. The reason I say "play" is that the GPS in the iPhone isn't good enough (IMO) for reliable turn-by-turn directions and thus CoPilot works just about as well as either TomTom or Navigon except that it costs a whole lot less (in fact, I'd say that CoPilot is superior in a few ways, regardless of price).

As for the price for the TomTom car kit, I don't know why anyone is surprised since the informed rumors about this kit have suggested a $100+ price point since the very beginning. Witness my post from several weeks ago:

https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/8376535/
 
iBookG4user said:
The kit does include the app according to the page, look under the "Did you notice?" bolded text on the Apple Store link.
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From tom-tom iPhone FAQ page

15. Will the app be bundled with the car kit when that becomes available?

When available, the TomTom car kit will be sold without the TomTom app. The TomTom app can only be purchased via the Apple App stores.

Also, see this report.
 
Master Chief said:
You are basically blaming TomTom for Apple's fault, for putting a weak GPS receiver in the iPhone. That's why TomTom had to include a better GPS receiver in the first place.... not to screw you, because that part was done already by Apple. Why don't you return your iPhone and ask for a refund?
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No, their app sucks. I have Navigon and TomTom, and Navigon is much better.
 
kromekat said:
I think when you consider this makes your iPhone a fully fledged, and more elegant TomTom device (with a much better touch screen), which allows you to take calls hands free, play music into your car stereo, have full GPS etc, then £99 really isn't that much to ask.

Those devices separately would cost quite a bit more, and there'd be several of them, all requiring power and hanging wires etc.

I'll be getting one! :)
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That's a great point! I'm going to sell a Tic-Tac-Toe game in the Apple Store for $99. This will make your iPhone a fully fledged Tic-Tac-Toe machine which allows you to take calls hands free, play music into your car stereo, have full GPS, etc!
</sarcsm>
 
Master Chief said:
You are basically blaming TomTom for Apple's fault, for putting a weak GPS receiver in the iPhone. That's why TomTom had to include a better GPS receiver in the first place.... not to screw you, because that part was done already by Apple. Why don't you return your iPhone and ask for a refund?
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Right. So you would like to have LESS battery life and more heat output.

My 3GS gets 29ft accuracy and the speed readings are within 1mph of a AVIATION STANDARD GPS.

For a phone, its bloody good.

£100 is a rip off, £100 + Europe I would have bought.

Not a hope in hell now. I managed to navigate with a 2G + Maps, I can do it again with GPS and Maps...

Appalling ripoff from TomTom there.
 
Guys I don't think were seeing this right here. Actually looking at the apple UK store the price for the ipod touch is £229 for the 32GB. Which when you look at that compaired to US Dollars it comes out to $335. And what's the US Price for 32GB touch 3G???? $299

Also a LOT of products seem to be higher in euros than in US dollars, so with this at 100 Euros earlier on the Apple store, one would make me belive that they would sell it in the US store for 70-75 bucks. Still a bit pricey imo but a bit better than this 100 euro deal.

UK Apple Store: http://store.apple.com/uk/browse/home/shop_ipod/family/ipod_touch?mco=Nzk2MDUxNQ

US Apple Store:http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_ipod/family/ipod_touch?mco=Nzk2MDUxNQ
 
fpnc said:
I've said it before and I'll say it again -- if you want to "play" with a GPS turn-by-turn app with your iPhone then buy the $35 (U.S.) CoPilot Live app. The reason I say "play" is that the GPS in the iPhone isn't good enough (IMO) for reliable turn-by-turn directions and thus CoPilot works just about as well as either TomTom or Navigon except that it costs a whole lot less (in fact, I'd say that CoPilot is superior in a few ways, regardless of price).
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This is just wrong. Since purchasing Navigon many weeks ago, it's done an amazing job. I first kept it next to my seat awaiting for TomTom's holster to be released. I recently purchased a 'pass-through' holster for my iPhone. I've never had it read off, and as mentioned by someone before, the software accounts for the slight lag very well. It is very smooth.

The software has amazed me and my friends in both it routing (more accurate than google maps) to its 'magic' warnings of 'caution' that change when you pass almost every speed limit adjustment on the road.

For me this has become the 'killer app' for the iPhone.

If I've got two iPhones that perform the same (without a secondary GPS receiver), why would I need something like the TomTom holster.

Please stop spreading FUD like this around. The internal GPS is just fine for most of us.
 
iphones4evry1 said:
Price aside, this is awesome. Finally, it's here. I am eager to read reviews of it, written by other Macrumors members.

As far as price, I agree it's overpriced. I expect that as time goes on, TomTom will reduce the price. If they do not reduce the price, not many people will buy it. We already have a GPS built into our phones; all we need is a holder/doc with a built in car charger ($19.99 generic will work just fine).
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Yeah, it's a bit expensive, but I don't care so much, I actually want the TomTom hardware more than the TomTom software. It looks like a really good car mount and it will enhance GPS acquisition etc. I want to try it with some Autocross iPhone apps and other car GPS fun stuff.
 
Get a dedicated unit!

I have a Garmin GPS unit that I like a lot. The software is very good, but the hardware really stands out. It already fallen a couple of times, but with a MATTE screen and a nice graphite finish, it didn't suffer any damage. Positinioning is quick and precise. I already travelled through Western Europe several times with it. I took it to New York, Boston, Washington DC and Philadelphia on a pedestrian mode - it worked extremely well with a US software. I can leave the device in the glovebox, but I can charge it via mini USB and cigarette lighter

I also have an iPhone. The GPS module is terrible in it, I often have no reception and no GPS signal. Sometimes it just doesn't recognise my exact location. The Garmin, with a full UK and Western European map and chargers, cables is around £80 from Amazon. You can get an iPhone for £340 on 'pay as you go'. Add this cradle to it and you will still have a limited device with several annoyances. I tried several apps in the US and I think there are minor tasks needing a GPS module that might justify Apple's decision to include the chip. But a full Satnav experience?

My advice would be - GET A DEDICATED UNIT THAT HAS BEEN DESIGNED TO DO SATELLITE NAVIGATION! The iPhone might help out occasionally, but it is no match to specialist units.
 
Concorde Rules said:
Right. So you would like to have LESS battery life and more heat output.

My 3GS gets 29ft accuracy and the speed readings are within 1mph of a AVIATION STANDARD GPS.

For a phone, its bloody good.

£100 is a rip off, £100 + Europe I would have bought.

Not a hope in hell now. I managed to navigate with a 2G + Maps, I can do it again with GPS and Maps...

Appalling ripoff from TomTom there.
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remember, the £99 is the RRP... doesn't mean other retailers will sell it at that... you may find amazon selling it at £79.99 or so...
still quite dear imo but we'll see what the reviews say
 
kernkraft said:
I also have an iPhone. The GPS module is terrible in it, I often have no reception and no GPS signal. Sometimes it just doesn't recognise my exact location.

My advice would be - GET A DEDICATED UNIT THAT HAS BEEN DESIGNED TO DO SATELLITE NAVIGATION! The iPhone might help out occasionally, but it is no match to specialist units.
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I have to disagree with this. I used to own a TomTom GO 510, which I have to say was excellent, but I sold it when I heard navigation would be coming to the iPhone. I waited and waited for the TomTom app, but with all the bad reviews etc, they lost another customer to Navigon.

I am now running Navigon on my 3GS and it is nothing short of perfect. No delay, no loss of signal, even better than my stand alone TomTom was. As long as the software is done properly, there is nothing wrong with the GPS in the iPhone.

I think TomTom haven't bothered tweaking their software to the same extent Navigon have, just so they can sell their overpriced holder :rolleyes:
 
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