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TOMTOM probably going to be better, but....

Jamesdamon said:
So what you're saying is the mount won't make the iphone's antenna any better at all because both can't be used at the same time....BUT, when using the mount it will be much more reliable in comparison to just using the naked iphone??
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Correct. The GPS antenna in the iPhone is tiny. If you look at the teardown photos online you can see that the cell and gps antennas are compressed into one little antenna plane which is much smaller than your typical GPS patch antenna. Using their dock, TomTom is choosing to hand off the reception to their own antenna which is always optimally positioned toward the sky, not a dashboard or a seat. Using more than one antenna could result in multipath reception from two different sources and digital processing doesn't handle that very well.

I'm not sure exactly what you're asking here because all you did was restate what I already stated in the text of mine you quoted.
 
Do you guys think Navigon, in future updates will include the street names when you are being told to turn somewhere?

I heard it only says make a left in so in so meters....it doesn't say make a left on so and so street/avenue in 500 meters.
 
Jamesdamon said:
Do you guys think Navigon, in future updates will include the street names when you are being told to turn somewhere?

I heard it only says make a left in so in so meters....it doesn't say make a left on so and so street/avenue in 500 meters.
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Yes, it has already been announced as coming later this year (not as part of the 1.1 update already rolling out though).
 
It's like formula 1 : the owner of the pole position has a clear advantage

In France Navigon has been the first to release a GPS application, and since it has always been in the top 10 of the best selling applications in the Navigation category, though it costs 99 euros. It means that the installed base of customers is now very large. I have bought it and it is almost perfect (last Saturday, they added itinerary programming, radars, an option to display or not POIs by category, they enhanced the management of the sound (when music is playing), and a few other details). It just lacks traffic information, but probably it will be included in a future release.

TomTom will surely be very good, but do you think lots of people will buy it if they already bought Navigon ? Why spend twice 99 euros to gain what ? MAYBE IQ Routes ? And have you ever tried IQ Routes around Paris ? It is efficient to tell you that there is a traffic jam on the highway, but it doesn't know if the little roads around are OK or not. So it often tells you to use some little roads that are also saturated (because lots of people don't need TomTom to know the little roads around !). In some cases it's better to stay on the highway and be patient...

So to answer the question of this forum, I think Navigon will be the winner. Not because it is the best, but because it is the first AND one of the bests. Like Formula 1 : if you have the pole position and you are just a bit slower than your competitors, then you can win the race.
 
Jamesdamon said:
I heard it only says make a left in so in so meters....it doesn't say make a left on so and so street/avenue in 500 meters.
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That's not quite accurate. Although it doesn't TTS for local street names, it will for highways and such. For example, the other day I was using it and it said "in one mile, turn right on to I-270 East".
 
ksmith80209 said:
That's not quite accurate. Although it doesn't TTS for local street names, it will for highways and such. For example, the other day I was using it and it said "in one mile, turn right on to I-270 East".
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yes, this is correct. however, an update due later this summer will bring full text to speech and TMC
 
One person said the update will be later this year...another said later this summer.....

If I do decide to go with Navigon, I seriously hope it will be later this summer.

The more and more people that give their opinions the more and more Navigon is loooking better to me.
 
Navigon is quite good :) I think the update will be this summer.

Back to TomTom, you're losing my interest now. Your twitter account isn't very active, and your iPhone minisite doesn't work either!
 
Jamesdamon said:
One person said the update will be later this year...another said later this summer.....

If I do decide to go with Navigon, I seriously hope it will be later this summer.

The more and more people that give their opinions the more and more Navigon is loooking better to me.
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Direct from their website:
Even more features!
More functions such as TMC and text-to-speech will follow in late summer.
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they also announced an update would be out in july that added these features:
  • Additional languages: Portugese, Czech, Polish, Turkish, Croatian, Romanian, Slovakian, Greek and Russian (GUI und Audio)
  • NAVIGON's route planning function known from the companies PND line that enables users to plan a route with several destinations
  • Safety cameras (not for all countries)
  • Additional map view options (now displays street names in 3D view, optional points of interest (POI) display)
  • Call POI function (call the number of a POI and save it to your contacts)
  • Optimized volume control when using the NAVIGON navigation and the integrated iPod function of the iPhone at the same time

this update was released several days ago, they seem to stick to deadlines
 
There is one thing preventing me from getting this - or TomTom for that matter. And that is the inability to multitask on the phone. Utilizing the phone as a GPS effectively ties up the phone for that purpose only. You can play music, but you can't listen to other things like MLB games, Pandora, WunderRadio/Pocket Tunes, etc.
Don't tell me to jailbreak my phone to use backgrounder - I don't want to do that.
We have two Garmins circa 2008. The maps are slightly out of date, but not significantly so. We keep them in each car, so portability isn't an issue either.
I do like the idea of an iPhone GPS, but can't get past these issues.
 
FearlessFreep said:
There is one thing preventing me from getting this - or TomTom for that matter. And that is the inability to multitask on the phone. Utilizing the phone as a GPS effectively ties up the phone for that purpose only. You can play music, but you can't listen to other things like MLB games, Pandora, WunderRadio/Pocket Tunes, etc.
Don't tell me to jailbreak my phone to use backgrounder - I don't want to do that.
We have two Garmins circa 2008. The maps are slightly out of date, but not significantly so. We keep them in each car, so portability isn't an issue either.
I do like the idea of an iPhone GPS, but can't get past these issues.
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so keep the garmins and update the maps?
 
FearlessFreep said:
There is one thing preventing me from getting this - or TomTom for that matter. And that is the inability to multitask on the phone. Utilizing the phone as a GPS effectively ties up the phone for that purpose only. You can play music, but you can't listen to other things like MLB games, Pandora, WunderRadio/Pocket Tunes, etc.
Don't tell me to jailbreak my phone to use backgrounder - I don't want to do that.
We have two Garmins circa 2008. The maps are slightly out of date, but not significantly so. We keep them in each car, so portability isn't an issue either.
I do like the idea of an iPhone GPS, but can't get past these issues.
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very funny how all this has been covered.. jailbreak+backgrounder its not hard to use and a MORON can jailbreak a phone
 
jacobgaul said:
very funny how all this has been covered.. jailbreak+backgrounder its not hard to use and a MORON can jailbreak a phone
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Funny how you start calling people names and don't read properly.

He said that he did not want to jailbreak, not that he couldn't.

I myself do not want to jailbreak. Not just that, but I can't really jailbreak my iPhone.
 
Ok am going to throw my 2 cents in here or more like $69.99 I purchased the navigon over the weekend (by mistake go figure short story there) anyways used it on both side streets and the freeways here are the pros-cons i can see

1. Took forever to download on a 8g 3g plus I had to dump photos,apps and more you need at least dbl the free space:(

2. The maps are great the signage is clear and précised

3. Tbt on streets needs text to speech like it does on the freeways turn right just doesn’t cut it:confused:

4. On there web site does not say anything about text to speech coming out on there next update:eek:

5.if you miss a turn the speed to redirect you seems slow i.e. tested it on a road that had heavy traffic so i took a short cut it keep telling me to turn left to get back on track.. Why so I can set in traffic... this unit needs traffic rerouting and a opinion to check traffic i.e (verzion ez naviagator):)

6. My gf has ez nav and by far blows away navigon on tbt directions but I do have to say that the graphics are sweet on the navigon:)

7. And last the caution audio is annoying as all hell, help me I think there is a setting that you can move it so you wont here it every five sec.:confused:
 
no im not calling anyone a moron dont think that.. im just saying anyone could jailbreak even a moron could.. and i dont see why people wont jailbreak.
 
curly14 said:
Ok am going to throw my 2 cents in here or more like $69.99 I purchased the navigon over the weekend (by mistake go figure short story there) anyways used it on both side streets and the freeways here are the pros-cons i can see

1. Took forever to download on a 8g 3g plus I had to dump photos,apps and more you need at least dbl the free space

2. The maps are great the signage is clear and précised

3. Tbt on streets needs text to speech like it does on the freeways turn right just doesn’t cut it

4. On there web site does not say anything about text to speech coming out on there next update

5.if you miss a turn the speed to redirect you seems slow i.e. tested it on a road that had heavy traffic so i took a short cut it keep telling me to turn left to get back on track.. Why so I can set in traffic... this unit needs traffic rerouting and a opinion to check traffic i.e (verzion ez naviagator)

6. My gf has ez nav and by far blows away navigon on tbt directions but I do have to say that the graphics are sweet on the navigon

7. And last the caution audio is annoying as all hell, help me I think there is a setting that you can move it so you wont here it every five sec.
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1. you need double the space to install, after the space is free again, same as with any app, just this one is bigger than most

3. coming in the update (see point 4)

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5. traffic is also coming in update referenced above

7. you can change the speed warning threshold in settings.. but maybe you shouldn't speed?
 
philgilder said:
1. you need double the space to install, after the space is free again, same as with any app, just this one is bigger than most--guess i better get that 16g
3. coming in the update (see point 4) ok good to know i did see this but must of missed it
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5. traffic is also coming in update referenced above----ok good:)

7. you can change the speed warning threshold in settings.. but maybe you shouldn't speed?[/QUOTE]-----ok understand but its not a matter of speeding besides show me a person who goes the speed limit on a freeway in socal and i will show you a world at a stand still:D not to mention get ran over...

also one more tidbit will navigon work with non apple headphones i.e. bluetooth ear piece 520 plantronics
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ok understand but its not a matter of speeding besides show me a person who goes the speed limit on a freeway in socal and i will show you a world at a stand still:D not to mention get ran over...
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so two wrongs make a right eh?
well everyone here speeds. just set the speed threshold a little higher :)

also one more tidbit will navigon work with non apple headphones i.e. bluetooth ear piece 520 plantronics
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you mean the directions over a bluetooth headset? i don't see why not, but thats no guarantee
 
curly14 said:
5.if you miss a turn the speed to redirect you seems slow i.e. tested it on a road that had heavy traffic so i took a short cut it keep telling me to turn left to get back on track.. Why so I can set in traffic... this unit needs traffic rerouting and a opinion to check traffic i.e (verzion ez naviagator):)
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If there is heavy traffic, you can go to the options and choose to block the itinerary proposed for the next (100 meters, 1 kilometer, 3 kilometers, ...). Navigon will then propose an alternative. Of course it would be better with traffic information, but it works quite well.
 
Tiffy said:
If there is heavy traffic, you can go to the options and choose to block the itinerary proposed for the next (100 meters, 1 kilometer, 3 kilometers, ...). Navigon will then propose an alternative. Of course it would be better with traffic information, but it works quite well.
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thanks i will give that a try:)
 
philgilder said:
so two wrongs make a right eh?
well everyone here speeds. just set the speed threshold a little higher :)

Its just what I did plus not everyone speeds those who don't would open up a whole new can of worms check out the thread about trapster what a hoot :D

you mean the directions over a bluetooth headset? i don't see why not, but thats no guarantee
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nope tried it but no worries here
 
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