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Touch Bar discussion [merged]
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Ergonoically, I think its questionable as you need to reach for the bar and focus your attention there.
In terms of usage, it seems novel, but I'm not sure how useful it will be if you use a mouse.
Heaven help you if you hook up your MBP to a monitor and external keyboard and if someone is doing serious photoshop work for 8 hours a day, wouldn't they be doing that on a larger monitor (and I guess external keyboard/mouse)?
In terms of usage, it seems novel, but I'm not sure how useful it will be if you use a mouse.
Heaven help you if you hook up your MBP to a monitor and external keyboard and if someone is doing serious photoshop work for 8 hours a day, wouldn't they be doing that on a larger monitor (and I guess external keyboard/mouse)?
After watching them talking about it for almost an hour it feels like I have :/
Pointless? Not if the developers have any imagination. For instance, I look forward to being able to work in Word full screen and having the most used commands on the Touch Bar, like this:
This is especially useful on a smaller screen like the 13" and 15".
This is especially useful on a smaller screen like the 13" and 15".
they should create software that allows iPhone users to set their phone down and have it act as some kind of extra mouse/status screen to use while they are on their macbook similar to how to touch bar is used. That world be cool
But surely its quicker/easier to press CMD+B, CMD+I etcPointless? Not if the developers have any imagination. For instance, I look forward to being able to work in Word full screen and having the most used commands on the Touch Bar, like this:
This is especially useful on a smaller screen like the 13" and 15".
I just find it ironic/hypocritical when Apple leads with an Accessibility website, then brings us a Gui bar that is useless to users with accessibility issues.
I guess they knew it was going to be an issue, so they tried to deflect it with their new accessibility site.
I guess they knew it was going to be an issue, so they tried to deflect it with their new accessibility site.
Yes, if you can remember all the shortcut keys. Maybe it will be a relief for some not having to memorize them for a number of different programs. Just something to keep in mind.
And if you touch type, you don't even need to look down.
The bar I would imagine never offer ALL the shortcuts, it will show the most popular shortcuts which I would assume most people would know.
I hear you I do but to me it just seems pointless moving away from the keyboard/trackpad when you can easily highlight, menu option etc
Not a bad $100 -$120 dollar option, if it works at all. Probably looks cool.
A scrolling news thing might be cute. Maybe scroll your photos. And realtime stuff you don't want parading around your screen? Should be interesting at least. My eyesight's not all that great.
A scrolling news thing might be cute. Maybe scroll your photos. And realtime stuff you don't want parading around your screen? Should be interesting at least. My eyesight's not all that great.
Here's an example that immediately comes to mind that we can all benefit from:
You're in your browser of choice with multiple tabs open. Reading/interacting with the active tab, you want to jump over to another tab. Rather then move from the keyboard down to the TouchPad (that's what I'm gonna call the trackpad now, and mark my words, Apple will too lol) and try to move around to find the tab you want you can just use your index finder to scroll left/right on the TouchBar and move between tabs.
The main benefit of the TouchBar is for items that would require you drag the TouchPad around to click the item. You can now keep your hand on the keyboard and choose options from the TouchBar. Button combos we're used to (such as bold/italics/underline) can be augmented with the TouchBar.
You're in your browser of choice with multiple tabs open. Reading/interacting with the active tab, you want to jump over to another tab. Rather then move from the keyboard down to the TouchPad (that's what I'm gonna call the trackpad now, and mark my words, Apple will too lol) and try to move around to find the tab you want you can just use your index finder to scroll left/right on the TouchBar and move between tabs.
The main benefit of the TouchBar is for items that would require you drag the TouchPad around to click the item. You can now keep your hand on the keyboard and choose options from the TouchBar. Button combos we're used to (such as bold/italics/underline) can be augmented with the TouchBar.
Yeah, right. Actually thinking about this, your right. Looking at it from that angle, it might be really useful.
thanks
I hadn't given it enough thought.....obviously
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I just move my finger literally 1 or so inches up on the trackpad and click
Yeah, but I think their reasoning is that the Touch Bar is "closer" to the keyboard in function than to the trackpad. In other words, it should be easier to use that Touch Bar than to engage with the Trackpad to go til menus and palettes and what not.
I have not used it, so I have no clue whether this reasoning will work, but I kinda see the point.
That's assuming your pointer is near the top of the window where the tabs are. The point of the TouchBar is the pointer/TouchPad is now not needed for additional features (extension of the cmd+B/I/U without having to memorize every apps custom key combination).
Oh come on.. is it really that difficult to slide a finger!
Apple's dev guidelines for the Touch Bar recommend that dev's avoid using the Touch Bar for status output. They clearly want dev's to make their users touch the bar. Feel it. Interact with it on a physical level.
What that means for dev's that go against those guidelines is anybody's guess right now, but I suspect Apple will eventually pull any apps from the App Store that simply display status.
This is an Apple product. It's all about the seamlessness. Is it difficult to type in your password? No, but TouchID is still pretty sweet.
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For the record, I don't see this as a killer feature, but as a potentially very convenient feature. One of those you will actually miss once you work with a laptop or keyboard that doesn't have it.
Given that you have never used it and the fact that it just came out and has not yet been adopted by developers means that you are not in a position to dictate that.
I'm looking at this now in a whole new light (thanks shareef777).
When typing, extending your fingers upward is MUCH more ergonomic than switching quickly to trackpad. As others have said, you then have to adjust orientation of the cursor, (Nevermind a mouse).
But who knows. We're just going to have to wait and see.
When typing, extending your fingers upward is MUCH more ergonomic than switching quickly to trackpad. As others have said, you then have to adjust orientation of the cursor, (Nevermind a mouse).
But who knows. We're just going to have to wait and see.
Dictate haha.. Thats why I gave another example how it could be used.
My point is, everything that the bar can do can be done using the trackpad/keyboard (excluding the Touch ID stuff)
Also, how do you know I haven't used it, I could work in the industry or supply chain.