With a reply like that it's safe to say that you have never used it.
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With a reply like that it's safe to say that you have never used it.
I've been using Word or computers in general for more than 20 years. I still need to look at the kb to hit ctrl/cmd-I/B/V/C. Do I just need more practice?
I can see myself glancing down at the TouchBar while typing a document, and knowing exactly where to glide a finger over these modifiers, and then quickly turning them back off, as I type.
Until I see an actual use that's worthwhile to me, it is a gimmick.
it is actually built-in apple watches inside macbook. it works on iOS and somehow will help in some specific cases and will be a waste in many others. So for photoshop i think people will use external screen and other screen will be for toolbars...
These are not the machines you are looking for if you hook it up to an external monitor and keyboard, mouse....
If you've got a dozen or more tabs it's easier to scroll thru the TouchBar and find the one you want then ctrl+tab or using the TouchPad.
The Touch Bar is a gimmick so that Apple can say that the MacBook Pro has something new.
It's especially pointless if you have a Wacom tablet. You can't possibly look at such tiny icons from the distance created by the laptop and tablet. Keyboard short cuts and multitouch cover your bases anyway.
I'm not saying it's a bad feature. I mean, a casual user who doesn't touch type and uses the mouse/trackpad for everything will definitely benefit from having his favorite shortcuts up front and ready to be pressed just inches from where he's already looking, hunting for letters.
But, correct me if I'm wrong, actual Pro users who use their Mac as a tool don't need that kind of help.
I'm an average touch typist who does just a little above 70 words per minute - how would I benefit from the autocorrect thingy?
The tab switcher/icon selector whatever thing in Safari? Opening macrumors is a matter of Cmd+T, M, A, C, R, Return. Doesn't take more than A SECOND. No use for the touchbar.
Taking a screenshot? I get it, the Cmd+Shift+3/4 isn't a nice looking shortcut, but once you remember it, there's just no delay in the workflow, I need a screenshot, oh hi muscle memory, boom, it's there. A new folder? Boom. A new window? Boom. A new tab? Empty the trash? Spotlight? Boom boom boom ****ing boom.
Any kind of touch interface stands no chance against the muscle memory and a keyboard.
But, correct me if I'm wrong, actual Pro users who use their Mac as a tool don't need that kind of help.
I'm an average touch typist who does just a little above 70 words per minute - how would I benefit from the autocorrect thingy?
The tab switcher/icon selector whatever thing in Safari? Opening macrumors is a matter of Cmd+T, M, A, C, R, Return. Doesn't take more than A SECOND. No use for the touchbar.
Taking a screenshot? I get it, the Cmd+Shift+3/4 isn't a nice looking shortcut, but once you remember it, there's just no delay in the workflow, I need a screenshot, oh hi muscle memory, boom, it's there. A new folder? Boom. A new window? Boom. A new tab? Empty the trash? Spotlight? Boom boom boom ****ing boom.
Any kind of touch interface stands no chance against the muscle memory and a keyboard.
Could not agree more. For someone who knows and uses cmd+ it would slow down productivity
+1 Anybody really wanting professional help would look at something like a mechanical keyboard. These things have been done before, the only thing is Apple's version is a bit more polished, but it's nothing actually revolutionary.
Of course developers can (and mostly do) distribute apps outside the App Store for Mac. I suspect we will see a lot of apps that come up with creative ways to violate the human interface guidelines.
It's possible for everyone to test out the Touch Bar on your Mac. Download Xcode and there is Touch Bar simulator. It's just an app/window you can use with your mouse. Gives you an idea what can and can not be done with it, what kind of configurability there is and so on. But as third party apps aren't updated to include support for it yet, it's functionality is kind of limited.
I think it's a good idea, but like touch screen's it's a struggle to implement. It's the 3D Touch of the mac (I know it has force touch).
The touch bar should have just been the Apple menu. Keep it simple and useful. Then they could have given the option to disable the menu from the OS GUI.
Yes, this is the fatal flaw. You have to lift your whole arm and move it forward; doesn't sound like much until you have to do it many times. Same reason why a touchscreen on a laptop is a non-starter (unless it is convertible to a physical tablet).
I may be the only Mac User who wants a tiuch screen. But since I'm in the minority then I'd at least prefer the touch strip was on the screen bezel instead.
If it's primarily used for Empji, Answering FaceTime, play/pause control or timeline scrubbing then it would make more sense to put it in your eye-view than on the keyboard that touch typists/pros never actually look at.
I question whether the touch bar is a better idea than, say, a row of physical keys with displays in them that can adapt and what not. You would have a lot of the same functionality, but having physical buttons means you could learn to use it without looking. It's much harder to use a touch screen without looking.
That might have been more useful but wouldn't allow the scrolling/scrubbing function