Two of my favorite things (Early Intel Mac edition).

[eyoungren]

Oh, great! Thanks for showing me this. I didn't see that there lol.

It's been some time since I've posted in that thread. I haven't been using my PowerPC Macs as primary machines since May of 2020 so they haven't been around when taking Mac/coffee pics.

But that thread is where it all started. I got off Facebook in 2017 so these two threads have been the only places I post this stuff.

 

[WriteNow]

The 17-inch MBP is going to mainly be what I use for consuming media and a way for me to free up the space on my MBP hard drive without it being taken up by 100GB of files. And I've always wanted to check one of them out as well.

A purpose to justify the new toy? :lol:

Although, seriously, I think the 17" MBP would work well for this sort of thing, since it has a big screen. I suppose the resolution isn't that great--but for something like this, size could be more valuable.

I remember half thinking this model when it was around could be a good choice for me. I kind of wanted a laptop--but really didn't need much portability. It seemed like a nice computer that could be a one and only--power, big screen, and enough portability to take it with me if I needed it elsewhere.

 

[WriteNow]

I know that some people are going to say "Uh... why do you need one of those when you have an M1 MBP?"

The problem I've had has come from using what others perceive as old and obsolete. I had people question me in the 1990s why I still played vinyl LPs. And I sure heard a lot in the 2000s when I was still using Classic MacOS on 680x0 hardware. Not just Classic--but System 7.5! It was annoying, since there was an assumption in some cases that I was just living in the past,not making a decision at least partly based on some practical factors.

There were some factors at work that didn't involve practicality, of course--like owning a one time dream. The Macintosh IIsi, for example, might have been worthless when I got it--but I could remember when the Macintosh II series was a dream. But it was still functional for a lot of what I needed to do.

Actually, I had a SE/30 that I was using for a project along side a Windows computer (which wasn't mine) in the late 1990s. Sure the Windows computer was newer and did some things that the SE/30 couldn't--but the SE/30 did a lot less to annoy me. I never once went how, switched the SE/30 on, and thought: "I wish I had that Windows 95 machine here now!" More likely, it was: "Thank God I can now use something that works!"

No judgement here. We all buy whatever it is we want (at least I do) and the justification (if there MUST be one) is "Because I wanted it".

Absolutely true!

 

[VirtuallyInsane]

It's been some time since I've posted in that thread. I haven't been using my PowerPC Macs as primary machines since May of 2020 so they haven't been around when taking Mac/coffee pics.

But that thread is where it all started. I got off Facebook in 2017 so these two threads have been the only places I post this stuff.

Nineteen years is a long time to use them. How did you even get them supported for that long? Were there a lot of hoops you had to jump through, or did you manage to get the programs you wanted through old downloads/find equivalent versions of the ones you couldn't get? That's what I did for my MBP '06 and iBookG4. I pretty much got what I wanted... but it's a pity that the MBP '06 is out of service atm. Snow Leopard is a great operating system, imo.

And it's good to see someone else who enjoys coffee as much as I do around here. Even though I'm guzzling my way through five cans of Kenco I bought last year at the moment. It's a heck of a lot better than the supermarket stuff, well at least here anyway. When you get a half-decent coffee it's hard to turn back, isn't it? You're prepared to pay that extra money.

And yeah, good job on getting off Facebook. Did that a long time ago as well. Don't really have anything interesting to post there, to be honest, and I don't want prospective employers swooping about on there anyway, trying to dig up dirt on the stupid things I did when I was a bit younger. Twitter is a cesspit of drama, and Instagram is all about those images. Not really about taking photos, which is ironic, since my Mom's a photographer.

Well, keep up the posting too. Looking back on old threads is fun, tbh. And seeing progress through them is even cooler.

A purpose to justify the new toy? :lol:

Although, seriously, I think the 17" MBP would work well for this sort of thing, since it has a big screen. I suppose the resolution isn't that great--but for something like this, size could be more valuable.

I remember half thinking this model when it was around could be a good choice for me. I kind of wanted a laptop--but really didn't need much portability. It seemed like a nice computer that could be a one and only--power, big screen, and enough portability to take it with me if I needed it elsewhere.

Yeah, I am more about the size. If Apple decided to make a 17-inch MBA with good battery life, I'd snap that thing up instantly and use it as a standalone media center, but they haven't yet. It would be a heck of a lot lighter than a 17-inch pro (even a modern one). And probably skinnier. The one thing that's hilarious though about the MBP 13-inch is the trackpad (especially in the 2020 ones). It takes up almost half of the case. Getting used to the 17-inch one, though. Everything is so huge compared to the 13-inch one. It's like the baby of the family.

Yeah, definitely. 17 inches is a lot, but you can technically still carry it around with you easily enough (if you have a big enough bag, lol). Suppose it's kinda like a desktop laptop hybrid in a way, if you hook up a mouse to it, and decide to use an external keyboard. Or run it through an HDMI lead and close it over.

The problem I've had has come from using what others perceive as old and obsolete. I had people question me in the 1990s why I still played vinyl LPs. And I sure heard a lot in the 2000s when I was still using Classic MacOS on 680x0 hardware. Not just Classic--but System 7.5! It was annoying, since there was an assumption in some cases that I was just living in the past,not making a decision at least partly based on some practical factors.

There were some factors at work that didn't involve practicality, of course--like owning a one time dream. The Macintosh IIsi, for example, might have been worthless when I got it--but I could remember when the Macintosh II series was a dream. But it was still functional for a lot of what I needed to do.

Actually, I had a SE/30 that I was using for a project along side a Windows computer (which wasn't mine) in the late 1990s. Sure the Windows computer was newer and did some things that the SE/30 couldn't--but the SE/30 did a lot less to annoy me. I never once went how, switched the SE/30 on, and thought: "I wish I had that Windows 95 machine here now!" More likely, it was: "Thank God I can now use something that works!"

To be honest, I still use iPods. I have a whole collection of them because I find the quality superior to running it through an iPhone with buds/DAC connector. And they're a lot more portable as well. No shame in using older hardware if it still works and does the job you need it to do. And vinyl is coming back now. Vinyl is nicer on the ear than CDs.

Nothing wrong with owning a dream either, lots of people fix up and own vintage cars, so why should computers be any different? If it's what you want, why not have it?

LOL yeah well, Windows has gotten awful in the last 10 years or so... ever since 8 came out. 10 really pissed me off, and 11... don't start me on it. Microsoft adds too much bloatware and unnecessary features and forces you to auto-update which is really annoying. It's nothing like the peak XP/7 days. Windows has really lost its way, and that's why a lot of people are trying out Macs. If you're not a gamer, at least it doesn't take forever for basic tasks to load, like Windows does.

 

[eyoungren]

Nineteen years is a long time to use them. How did you even get them supported for that long? Were there a lot of hoops you had to jump through, or did you manage to get the programs you wanted through old downloads/find equivalent versions of the ones you couldn't get? That's what I did for my MBP '06 and iBookG4. I pretty much got what I wanted... but it's a pity that the MBP '06 is out of service atm. Snow Leopard is a great operating system, imo.

Well, I did not fully convert to Mac until 2003 even though I'd been given a TiBook 400 in 2001.That Mac lasted until late 2009 and was even used for a year as a production machine at my job. By 2013 though, when I'd got my first Intel MBP (a 2006 model, 17") the boss finally got an Intel Mac for me at work.

By that point I'd learned a few workarounds. Adobe CS4, for example is still viable on PowerPC Leopard. The latest version of Adobe CC will still write an IDML file that can be opened by CS4. And the Word/PowerPoint/Excel formats are still the same between Office 2008 (runs on PowerPC) and Office 2019.

By 2017 I was using a Quad G5 as my primary Mac at home. With 16GB ram and some workarounds there was not much I couldn't do. But, I also had that MBP for things PowerPC could not do. By 2018, I was sent a 2008 MBP that can run Catalina (patched). So, between my iPhones, my Intels and the Intel Mac at work, anything I could not get done on my PowerPC was effectively covered.

In 2019, the business was sold, so I had to find a new job. The new job issued me a 2015 MBP and it's that Mac I use for work. With my other Intels I don't really need it for anything other than my job. By 2020, I had my first MP.

That was really the year where trying to do anything on the Quad was starting to get difficult. That was one of the reasons I was looking to switch permanently to Intel Mac.

And it's good to see someone else who enjoys coffee as much as I do around here. Even though I'm guzzling my way through five cans of Kenco I bought last year at the moment. It's a heck of a lot better than the supermarket stuff, well at least here anyway. When you get a half-decent coffee it's hard to turn back, isn't it? You're prepared to pay that extra money.

About to make the morning coffee soon. Our daily coffee (except for weekends), Death Wish dark roast. That became our primary weekly coffee (the one that gets you up and going) sometime in 2015 I think. We had a subscription for years, but dropped it once Walmart started carrying it.

 

[Amethyst1]

If Apple decided to make a 17-inch MBA with good battery life [...] It would be a heck of a lot lighter than a 17-inch pro (even a modern one). And probably skinnier.

The 1.35kg LG Gram 17 is just that if you can live without macOS. I kinda feel like picking one up someday actually.

17 inches is a lot, but you can technically still carry it around with you easily enough (if you have a big enough bag, lol).

The 17" MBP is pretty compact and lightweight for a 17" laptop. It is basically just a slightly larger version of the 15", which helps a lot with portability. I've seen some other 17" laptops that were just plain huge, like 5 cm thick and with a weight close to 5 kilograms. I'd never even think of lugging one of those around.

To be honest, I still use iPods.

I have a fourth-gen "classic" and a second-gen mini, both with flash memory and new batteries. What I really like about them is the no-frills/no-nonsense monochrome display which complements the "do one thing and do it well" philosophy. When iPods got colour displays and started displaying photos and videos, that philosophy was watered down. And the screen is way too small to really enjoy photos and videos on IMHO.

 

[VirtuallyInsane]

TOTALLY RANDOM UPDATE: My El C(r)apitan Hard Drive has decided to play up, so I loaded a copy of my MBP 15 inch in Snow Leopard and it's running really well, and I kinda don't want to repair it, but I guess I am going to try and reset everything and run Mountain Lion at least on it since Yosemite is hard to find and takes ages to download, it seems.

The 1.35kg LG Gram 17 is just that if you can live without macOS. I kinda feel like picking one up someday actually.


The 17" MBP is pretty compact and lightweight for a 17" laptop. It is basically just a slightly larger version of the 15", which helps a lot with portability. I've seen some other 17" laptops that were just plain huge, like 5 cm thick and with a weight close to 5 kilograms. I'd never even think of lugging one of those around.


I have a fourth-gen "classic" and a second-gen mini, both with flash memory and new batteries. What I really like about them is the no-frills/no-nonsense monochrome display which complements the "do one thing and do it well" philosophy. When iPods got colour displays and started displaying photos and videos, that philosophy was watered down. And the screen is way too small to really enjoy photos and videos on IMHO.

Maybe, not sure. Can you put alternate OS on it?

Yeah, I guess it's not the worst thing to carry around compared to other models. For me, though it's still big since I am used to the 13 inch and below models. But yeah, 5kg is a gym weight you're lugging around. Not very practical.

Yep. I have a 3rd gen that I still occasionally use. It works well since I changed the battery. Never owned a 4th gen, but they seem cool. The last ones with a b&w screen (the original ones, at least). Never really cared much for the Minis since the 2nd gen NaNo seems to be my sweetspot. Yes, it has a colored screen but it also has no thrills and is very thin/light. The 7th gen NaNo is good for wearing wireless and listening to music that way. For activity.

But yeah, it's hard to enjoy media on the small screen. Using it for music is good enough, imo. The original purpose, after all. It did that well and still does do it well.

Well, I did not fully convert to Mac until 2003 even though I'd been given a TiBook 400 in 2001.That Mac lasted until late 2009 and was even used for a year as a production machine at my job. By 2013 though, when I'd got my first Intel MBP (a 2006 model, 17") the boss finally got an Intel Mac for me at work.

By that point I'd learned a few workarounds. Adobe CS4, for example is still viable on PowerPC Leopard. The latest version of Adobe CC will still write an IDML file that can be opened by CS4. And the Word/PowerPoint/Excel formats are still the same between Office 2008 (runs on PowerPC) and Office 2019.

By 2017 I was using a Quad G5 as my primary Mac at home. With 16GB ram and some workarounds there was not much I couldn't do. But, I also had that MBP for things PowerPC could not do. By 2018, I was sent a 2008 MBP that can run Catalina (patched). So, between my iPhones, my Intels and the Intel Mac at work, anything I could not get done on my PowerPC was effectively covered.

In 2019, the business was sold, so I had to find a new job. The new job issued me a 2015 MBP and it's that Mac I use for work. With my other Intels I don't really need it for anything other than my job. By 2020, I had my first MP.

That was really the year where trying to do anything on the Quad was starting to get difficult. That was one of the reasons I was looking to switch permanently to Intel Mac.

About to make the morning coffee soon. Our daily coffee (except for weekends), Death Wish dark roast. That became our primary weekly coffee (the one that gets you up and going) sometime in 2015 I think. We had a subscription for years, but dropped it once Walmart started carrying it.

Nice one. TiBooks are a very nice laptop, but can be pretty fragile too. It's great that it lasted that long. The MBP from '06 are nice machines as well. The keyboard is cool, and I am a fan of the pretty thing bezels too.

Yeah, my iBook has Office '04 on it and it can read files from modern Office fine (no point in upgrading that). I didn't know that Adobe CC could still read files that could be opened on CS4, though. I suppose it's still possible, since it's the same company.

16GB is a lot of RAM, still. That's good coverage with Intel for PowerPC. My iBook G4 has one very specific purpose that you can't do on an Intel Mac, or an M1/2 Mac. Update my iPod Touch 1st Generation, which I am keeping on the original OS, since I managed to downgrade it. It runs so much better. Aside from that, the other Mac[book]s work well for what needs to be done.

Never had a MP. Probably won't get one for a long time, though. The iMac is running well, and so are the Macbooks [except the 06 one, but I am fixing it soon]. It's impressive that you managed to hold out for almost 15 years before fully integrating to Intel. Intel Macs aren't so bad. This MBP 09 has a Core 2 Duo, and the 06 has a Core Duo. They work for what they're designed for.

Never had Death Wish, but I've seen it around. Is it really strong? Yeah, dropping subscriptions is good when you can buy it. Is it expensive? For the subscription vs Walmart? When all the Kenco is gone, I might try and find some over here (it will probably need to be shipped over, though).

 

[eyoungren]

Nice one. TiBooks are a very nice laptop, but can be pretty fragile too. It's great that it lasted that long. The MBP from '06 are nice machines as well. The keyboard is cool, and I am a fan of the pretty thing bezels too.

Yeah, my iBook has Office '04 on it and it can read files from modern Office fine (no point in upgrading that). I didn't know that Adobe CC could still read files that could be opened on CS4, though. I suppose it's still possible, since it's the same company.

16GB is a lot of RAM, still. That's good coverage with Intel for PowerPC. My iBook G4 has one very specific purpose that you can't do on an Intel Mac, or an M1/2 Mac. Update my iPod Touch 1st Generation, which I am keeping on the original OS, since I managed to downgrade it. It runs so much better. Aside from that, the other Mac[book]s work well for what needs to be done.

Never had a MP. Probably won't get one for a long time, though. The iMac is running well, and so are the Macbooks [except the 06 one, but I am fixing it soon]. It's impressive that you managed to hold out for almost 15 years before fully integrating to Intel. Intel Macs aren't so bad. This MBP 09 has a Core 2 Duo, and the 06 has a Core Duo. They work for what they're designed for.

Well, the TiBook lasted until November 2009 when the LB died. I got a 17" PowerBook G4 in December 2009, A1013. Around June 2010 I got a 17" Powerbook HD-DLSD to go with the A1013 because the screen on the A1013 was going bad.

I replaced the screen on the A1013, and I replaced the LB on the TiBook. I had three PowerBooks at that point.

A G4 Quicksilver came in late 2013. I modded it heavily and because the MP at work supported three screens, I had to have the QS at home support six. Later I got a 2.3DC G5 and then the Quad G5. Both of those Macs also drove six displays.

When I ordered the MP (used, from eBay), I also got enough video cards to support six displays. The cards have since been upgraded (I run Mojave on this MP, it's a 2009 4,1 upgraded to a 5,1). Has 32GB ram (the Quad only had 16GB), a 1TB SSD (boot drive), 2x 6TB HDs and a 3TB HD.

So, until the MacPro, it was pretty much the Quad as my daily desktop and the 2006 and 2008 MBPs I mentioned earlier that I had as daily laptops.

Oh. The TiBook died once more before I revived it for the last time and then set it off as spare parts to another member. That was probably 2016 maybe.

Never had Death Wish, but I've seen it around. Is it really strong? Yeah, dropping subscriptions is good when you can buy it. Is it expensive? For the subscription vs Walmart? When all the Kenco is gone, I might try and find some over here (it will probably need to be shipped over, though).

It's billed as the World's Strongest Coffee. I, think twice the normal caffeine. Black Insomnia, which is a coffee from South Africa I believe, is stronger. I won't touch that stuff - I'm on high blood pressure meds so don't need that.

But DWC is very smooth. It's amazing what they managed to do with a robusta blend. Oh. It's $17.99 a bag now at Walmart. Used to be around $20. With the price drop it's not worth waiting for DWC to ship (or screw up) my order. DWC gave me a discount on price but I can go to Walmart and get it when I need it, not try and anticipate when I'll need my next coffee order from the company. So, that and their last screwup is why I cancelled my subscription.

#1 Organic and #1 Fair Trade Coffee

Bold, Smooth and Delicious since 2012. We source USDA Organic and Fair Trade Certified™ arabica and robusta coffee beans from India, Peru, and other countries throughout South and Central America for our everyday coffee roasts. Sustainably sourced coffee with high quality standards to ensure...

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Black Insomnia Extreme Caffeine Coffee - The Strongest in the World

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blackinsomnia.us

 

[VirtuallyInsane]

Well, the TiBook lasted until November 2009 when the LB died. I got a 17" PowerBook G4 in December 2009, A1013. Around June 2010 I got a 17" Powerbook HD-DLSD to go with the A1013 because the screen on the A1013 was going bad.

I replaced the screen on the A1013, and I replaced the LB on the TiBook. I had three PowerBooks at that point.

Ah, that sucks. The first one still lasted for a good while. Sucks about the Powerbook, though. At least you replaced the parts on them and had one good PowerBook.

A G4 Quicksilver came in late 2013. I modded it heavily and because the MP at work supported three screens, I had to have the QS at home support six. Later I got a 2.3DC G5 and then the Quad G5. Both of those Macs also drove six displays.

Wow, six screens. The most I had was 3 for music production. Did you have to have a lot of connectors for six?

When I ordered the MP (used, from eBay), I also got enough video cards to support six displays. The cards have since been upgraded (I run Mojave on this MP, it's a 2009 4,1 upgraded to a 5,1). Has 32GB ram (the Quad only had 16GB), a 1TB SSD (boot drive), 2x 6TB HDs and a 3TB HD.

So, until the MacPro, it was pretty much the Quad as my daily desktop and the 2006 and 2008 MBPs I mentioned earlier that I had as daily laptops.

I have Mojave on my iMac 2019, and I'm not upgrading it anytime soon. Catalina took away some support for the apps that I had running on it, so I decided not to upgrade. You also have a lot of drives for this Mac Pro. Seems like it will last a good while for you.

Oh. The TiBook died once more before I revived it for the last time and then set it off as spare parts to another member. That was probably 2016 maybe.

Oh no! At least it got used as spare parts in the end.

It's billed as the World's Strongest Coffee. I, think twice the normal caffeine. Black Insomnia, which is a coffee from South Africa I believe, is stronger. I won't touch that stuff - I'm on high blood pressure meds so don't need that.

But DWC is very smooth. It's amazing what they managed to do with a robusta blend. Oh. It's $17.99 a bag now at Walmart. Used to be around $20. With the price drop it's not worth waiting for DWC to ship (or screw up) my order. DWC gave me a discount on price but I can go to Walmart and get it when I need it, not try and anticipate when I'll need my next coffee order from the company. So, that and their last screwup is why I cancelled my subscription.

#1 Organic and #1 Fair Trade Coffee

Bold, Smooth and Delicious since 2012. We source USDA Organic and Fair Trade Certified™ arabica and robusta coffee beans from India, Peru, and other countries throughout South and Central America for our everyday coffee roasts. Sustainably sourced coffee with high quality standards to ensure...

www.deathwishcoffee.com

Black Insomnia Extreme Caffeine Coffee - The Strongest in the World

Made from our proprietary blend of Arabica and Robusta coffee beans, and nothing more, Black Insomnia is 4x stronger than your average coffee brand. It's impossible not to kick-ass with that much energy in your system. Want to be an everyday superhero? You know where we're at.

blackinsomnia.us

17.99 doesn't seem too bad. And yeah, when they start screwing up orders, that's really annoying. Subscriptions should keep track of things better, and not mess orders up. I am glad that it's cheaper in Walmart and you don't have to do that now.

I can get Blacksomnia here, but Death Wish seems too expensive compared to it to ship here. Maybe I will try that out. It seems to have good reviews, thanks for the recommendation.

 

[theMarble]

Did you have to have a lot of connectors for six?

If I recall correctly he had to use 3 video cards before getting the Mac Pro. I don't think any PPC compatible video card had three outputs.

 

[eyoungren]

Wow, six screens. The most I had was 3 for music production. Did you have to have a lot of connectors for six?

If I recall correctly he had to use 3 video cards before getting the Mac Pro. I don't think any PPC compatible video card had three outputs.

Yes, three video cards. One AGP (NVIDIA GeForce 68000 GT) and two PCI (ATI Radeon 9200 and 7000). All three cards have dual DVI/VGA output.

I have Mojave on my iMac 2019, and I'm not upgrading it anytime soon. Catalina took away some support for the apps that I had running on it, so I decided not to upgrade. You also have a lot of drives for this Mac Pro. Seems like it will last a good while for you.

Well, the MP has four drive bays. I don't like empty drive bays.

 

[Amethyst1]

And vinyl is coming back now.

Vinyl was never gone at least in my household

Suppose it's kinda like a desktop laptop hybrid in a way, if you hook up a mouse to it, and decide to use an external keyboard. Or run it through an HDMI lead and close it over.

Yeah, but if you're going to use an external screen anyway, any laptop will do.

Getting used to the 17-inch one, though. Everything is so huge compared to the 13-inch one. It's like the baby of the family.

Here's the smallest MacBook (12-inch) next to the largest. I also added my 10.4-inch Sony Vaio X505, which was the world's thinnest laptop in 2003/2004. It was also one of the most lightweight ones (≈0.8kg), the first with a chiclet keyboard, and at $3,000 makes the original MacBook Air look cheap.

Maybe, not sure. Can you put alternate OS on it?

I don't see why not. Linux will be no problem for sure, as for macOS...

Yep. I have a 3rd gen that I still occasionally use.

Third-gen has the four illuminated buttons above the wheel, right? That was a one-off design.

Never owned a 4th gen, but they seem cool.

They are. The last and thinnest with a monochrome screen.

Never really cared much for the Minis since the 2nd gen NaNo seems to be my sweetspot. Yes, it has a colored screen but it also has no thrills and is very thin/light.

I have a first-gen and a third-gen nano. I just plain hate the third-gen, it's too wide and looks weird. The first-gen is my favourite since it looks tiny a tiny "classic" iPod, the later generations look more like a tiny mini.

Well, the MP has four drive bays. I don't like empty drive bays.

Four drive bays isn't the end if you have free PCIe slots. You can shove PCIe SSDs in there

 

[MBAir2010]

TOTALLY RANDOM UPDATE: My El C(r)apitan Hard Drive has decided to play up, so I loaded a copy of my MBP 15 inch in Snow Leopard and it's running really well, and I kinda don't want to repair it, but I guess I am going to try and reset everything and run Mountain Lion at least on it since Yosemite is hard to find and takes ages to download, it seems.

Mountian Lion is a great OS but only Opera works for a web browser I discovered last year.
Im stuck on El Capitan with my early intel MacBook Air that is 12 years old for me!
I just need a ad blocker for ElCap
and some more coffee!

 

[eyoungren]

Four drive bays isn't the end if you have free PCIe slots. You can shove PCIe SSDs in there

Yes, I know. Trying not to focus on that. I did make a thread recently about all the excess drive space between all my Macs that I have already!

 

[Amethyst1]

Im stuck on El Capitan with my early intel MacBook Air that is 12 years old for me!
I just need a ad blocker for ElCap
and some more coffee!

What’s keeping you from using a later version of macOS on it?

 

[MBAir2010]

What’s keeping you from using a later version of macOS on it?

good question, I have 2 other ssd drives, one with Snow leopard the other Mountain Lion I swap occasionally.
sadly, I only spend a little amount of time on these due to iCloud and internet not playing well with them.
I do have CS4 running on all 3 and update each one monthly.

Snow Leopard is the most "snappy" and fluent OSX of all of them, but can't internet anything!
one of these day I might stick with Snow Leopard for good on that MacBook Air.
I still love the intro when installing a fresh copy of Snow Leopard from my usb drive on that MacBook Air!

 

[VirtuallyInsane]

If I recall correctly he had to use 3 video cards before getting the Mac Pro. I don't think any PPC compatible video card had three outputs.

Nice

Yes, three video cards. One AGP (NVIDIA GeForce 68000 GT) and two PCI (ATI Radeon 9200 and 7000). All three cards have dual DVI/VGA output.

Nice. Can you play any cool games with those cards?

Well, the MP has four drive bays. I don't like empty drive bays.

Fair enough, lol. Why not get the most out of your device?

Vinyl was never gone at least in my household

Yay! My Dad has a record player somewhere. In the attic, I think. Haven't used in a while.

Yeah, but if you're going to use an external screen anyway, any laptop will do.

Yeah, true. I can use my MBP '06 easily with the connections (when it turns on, cough cough, still need to fix that one). I like "streaming" videos across to my TV on it. 360p video even plays decently on it.

Here's the smallest MacBook (12-inch) next to the largest. I also added my 10.4-inch Sony Vaio X505, which was the world's thinnest laptop in 2003/2004. It was also one of the most lightweight ones (≈0.8kg), the first with a chiclet keyboard, and at $3,000 makes the original MacBook Air look cheap.

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To be honest, the Sony laptop from back then doesn't look too bad for 2003/4 standards but it looks totally looks dated now. Even through the bezels, compared to the PowerBook and iBooks of that era. My iBook has pretty skinny bezels, but nothing compared to the PowerBook 17-inches and early MBP for the era.

And how is the Macbook 12"? I heard they're not very powerful, and they overheat fast, and can't run a lot of thinngs on them (well, the first generation anyway, AFAIK). Does it still run alright?

I don't see why not. Linux will be no problem for sure, as for macOS...

I might give Linux a swirl on one of my older systems, or just buy an old plastic MacBook and tyr it on that. Those are pretty cheap now, AFAIK. Would like to play around on one of them next (not for a while, though).

Third-gen has the four illuminated buttons above the wheel, right? That was a one-off design.

Yeah, and it looks cool still though. Helpful at nighttime.

They are. The last and thinnest with a monochrome screen.

Yes.

I have a first-gen and a third-gen nano. I just plain hate the third-gen, it's too wide and looks weird. The first-gen is my favourite since it looks tiny a tiny "classic" iPod, the later generations look more like a tiny mini.

I think that the 1st and 2nd gen have the best sound out of them all. I have two 2nd gen and 2 1st gen. The second gen keeps the charge better and I like the metal finish but yeah the 3rd gen is pretty wide lol. Harder to store than the rest.

Four drive bays isn't the end if you have free PCIe slots. You can shove PCIe SSDs in there

True

Mountian Lion is a great OS but only Opera works for a web browser I discovered last year.
Im stuck on El Capitan with my early intel MacBook Air that is 12 years old for me!
I just need a ad blocker for ElCap
and some more coffee!

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I might give it a whiz on a partition at some point.

Does uBlock Origin not work for Opera on El Capitan? Maybe you can go to the Early Intel thread and download Interwebs (I run that) and add the uBlock Origin add on that comes with it, and the Ad Block too. It should work, AFAIK.

Yes, I know. Trying not to focus on that. I did make a thread recently about all the excess drive space between all my Macs that I have already!

Nice.

good question, I have 2 other ssd drives, one with Snow leopard the other Mountain Lion I swap occasionally.
sadly, I only spend a little amount of time on these due to iCloud and internet not playing well with them.
I do have CS4 running on all 3 and update each one monthly.

The WiFi works fine for me on all my devices and I booted a copy of Snow Leopard. Maybe you should check the WiFi stats when you use them and see what's causing it to drop. Nice, CS4.

Snow Leopard is the most "snappy" and fluent OSX of all of them, but can't internet anything!
one of these day I might stick with Snow Leopard for good on that MacBook Air.
I still love the intro when installing a fresh copy of Snow Leopard from my usb drive on that MacBook Air!

Yeah, I can imagine that. What do you mean you 'can't internet anything'? You can't use the internet for anything? Check out the Early Intel Super Wiki Post for some browsers you can install on Snow Leopard. Most of them still work (I reccomend Interwebs/ TenFourFox).

I love those old videos too, pity they did away with them!

 

[MBAir2010]

Yeah, I can imagine that. What do you mean you 'can't internet anything'? You can't use the internet for anything? Check out the Early Intel Super Wiki Post for some browsers you can install on Snow Leopard. Most of them still work (I reccomend Interwebs/ TenFourFox).

I love those old videos too, pity they did away with them!

thank!|
I will check this out, snow leopard is that great to use daily again!

all my 2020-22  stuff is calling dust upstairs well until tonite,

while my 2010-12 stuff is entertaining me downstair in a screen outdoors area.
too bad the tv gen 3 won't iCloud anymore, but I have speaker chords and HDMI substituting that today.

my twitter friend (a pcworld guru) was stating how Microsoft is stopping windows 10 licensing this week.
im happy I stuck with apple even the walled garden and unsupportive 2010 things we love, can still can work!

 

[eyoungren]

Nice. Can you play any cool games with those cards?

Probably, IDK. I did try HALO with it and it was fine. Didn't play much on it though. I don't really use my computers for games and the horsepower I seek in any type of hardware is usually just so I can use graphic design/word processing apps and internet browsing.

When I was a teen and in to my 20s I could get lost in game play. Get started, look up and find out that my weekend is almost over. That was fine when nothing really mattered. I could get lost in the world I was in. School or my job was incidental - I had plenty of time.

Later on and up to now, I have jobs, a family and responsibilities. That isn't to say I don't find time for the things I like, but I hate getting lost in something and then either having to cut it short or finding out that I spent all my time on one specific thing.

 

[macgeek18]

@eyoungren Good to see that G3 I sent over long ago still in use.

 

[WriteNow]

But DWC is very smooth. It's amazing what they managed to do with a robusta blend. Oh. It's $17.99 a bag now at Walmart.

Funny how expensive a robusta blend can be! At one time, I heard the big robusta selling point for coffee companies was "cheap!"

(Although, I suppose there could be variation in robusta quality. And one can assume canned coffee makers went with whatever was the cheapest thing they could. They probably do the same thing when do so something with (what all coffee people say is better) arabica.)

 

[WriteNow]

I'd mentioned this stuff before, but I've been buying a lot of O Organics (carried by Safeway/Albertsons/probably related stores). I can't say it's the best coffee ever--but it works for me as a daily coffee. Plus they have good sales, it's organic (as the O Organic name does tend to suggest!), and at least some--maybe all--varieties I see are Fair Trade certified.

 

[eyoungren]

@eyoungren Good to see that G3 I sent over long ago still in use.

Oh, not so much now. About two or three months ago it developed problems. One of the NICs died, so I replaced it. Which was fine and had I not tried to see if I could get a speed increase by swapping the SATA card in to another slot everything would have been ok. Now it's being very picky about booting. And if it DOES boot it only sees one NIC card.

As it was my main server, it was sharing my main RAID drive and I did not want to spend a lot of time troubleshooting. So, I just connected the RAID drive to my MacPro.

Eventually I will see if I can get it working properly again.

That said, it's been my primary server from the time you sent it to late 2022.

 

[WriteNow]

The Snow Leopard talk reminds me of a Mac Mini I had to play with a few years ago that ran Snow Leopard. I can see why people like it. I know I've heard some people say Snow Leopard was a peak point.

Years back, I used a 2 computer scheme--a Linux system for Internet, and an older Mac for productivity. I sometimes think of going back to that. It's convenient having one system do it all--but I might be more productive if the productivity computer was isolated from the Internet. Intel machine with Snow Leopard would be tempting... Maybe a nice black MacBook--which I always like--and I could run Linux on it, too, to give a modern, supported OS so I could take it places.

 

[eyoungren]

Funny how expensive a robusta blend can be! At one time, I heard the big robusta selling point for coffee companies was "cheap!"

(Although, I suppose there could be variation in robusta quality. And one can assume canned coffee makers went with whatever was the cheapest thing they could. They probably do the same thing when do so something with (what all coffee people say is better) arabica.)

Well, I always attributed the price of DWC to the fact that it was a small business and they needed to charge what they charged to make a profit. That was fine because the coffee was worth it - it still is. I'd still pay that much for it because what they've done with that bean is impressive! Generally, the robusta bean is bad.

But, at some point the company changed their website backend systems. Modifying my subscription became a giant PITA and I either ended up having too many bags at hand or being out completely because the company takes a while to ship. With my very last order I had the misfortune of changing things up on the exact weekend that the company switched fulfillment providers. The result was that I got charged TWICE for the same order.

They made good by refunding the second order after it had shipped. That essentially gave me a free order of two bags. But, I was tired of playing a guessing game of when to order and then paying shipping on top of it. Now, I can just go down to Walmart and pay the same price and NO shipping charge. I get it 'fulfilled' when I want and I have it immediately - I'm not waiting for a package to show up.

They are a much bigger company now so I'm just happier getting it on the shelf and stuff that would not have bothered me back when I was supporting a small business just getting started now does bother me.

That's not to say I don't drop in for their merchandise though. We have a metal vacuum sealed coffee can with the DWC logo on it that I dropped money on after I had cancelled the subscription. So, I still very much support the company.