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Universal and Native Apple Silicon Apps

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ratspg said:
I’m running my studio on a Mac Pro Trash Can still.... I picked up a MacBook Air M 1 and I’m excited to see its performance on Logic. Problem is my audio interface (Apollo’s ) aren’t supported on Big Sur just yet, let alone Apple Silicon. *Spitfire Audio is Awesomeeeee* :)
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That completely slipped my mind for some reason lol, I forgot that I record vocals and that's hardware 😂 I have an Audio Technica AT4050 & my interface is the Apogee Duet 2. Was panicked for a second that I hadn't checked the compatibility but to my surprise Apogee Duet 2 is already supported by BOTH Big Sur & Apple Silicon!
 
imdog said:
That completely slipped my mind for some reason lol, I forgot that I record vocals and that's hardware 😂 I have an Audio Technica AT4050 & my interface is the Apogee Duet 2. Was panicked for a second that I hadn't checked the compatibility but to my surprise Apogee Duet 2 is already supported by BOTH Big Sur & Apple Silicon!
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Wow! Apogee is on the ball. I hope I dont have to purchase something else; have a couple of interfaces but neither have announced support for Big Sur or M1.
 
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Takuro said:
I added these to the first post. It's a Wiki post, so anyone can edit it, as a heads-up.

I could find no evidence that Celestia (not sure which one you meant, only found an old project on Sourceforge) or Wipr are actually universal binaries at this time.

On a side note: Some apps I've come across mention in release notes that they have "compatibility" or "resolved issues" with Apple Silicon Macs but don't claim to be actual universal binaries. I'm skipping those for now since they'd require testing to see if they contain actual ARM code or not.
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Celestia: AppStore

I did not use release notes etc. but Mints which checks apps for universal binaries.
 
Can someone test docker on the M1 macs
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Wortak said:
Current release version of Chrome doesn’t work in Rosetta. There is a beta being worked on though.
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There was a YouTube video linked in another thread showing Chrome running on an M1 MBA, albeit slower than Safari for now since it's obviously not optimised. I assume running through Rosetta 2.

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I just watched a guy in Singapore post a livestream on YouTube and running chrome on an M1 MBA. You can hear him talk about it at about minute 10. MacBook Air M1 live randomness on YouTube
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mikeboss said:
virtualizing ≠ emulating

Windows x86/x64 will not run in VMware Fusion for Apple Silicon.
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Just curious then, other than running ARM Linux what use would Fusion or Parallels be? Windows ARM which has no software?

I think they will target x64 using a similar method to QEMU
 
SlCKB0Y said:
Just curious then, other than running ARM Linux what use would Fusion or Parallels be? Windows ARM which has no software?
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Yes, pretty much, Linux ARM is what we get for now with Windows ARM in the line.
 
MalcolmH said:
These type of workloads are moving to the Neural Engine / GPU and away from the CPU as they can be highly parallelised. They are likely to work very well on M1, even under Rosetta if they are using Metal. Anyway, this is of course my expectation .. I guess we will see later this week as everyone starts to post their first reactions.
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I'm not talking performance here; I'm talking about the software just working at all; about plugins; about drivers. None of those things are expected to work right now; I mean usually it takes a few months just to have a version compatible with an OS update; and most of them won't be compatible with big sur even. For musicians there's basically just logic. a lot of companies haven't said anything yet about AS support. As for Steinberg
Here is a statement from Steinberg about their products:

Not only did Apple introduce a new operating system but also a new hardware platform with the Apple Silicon system on a chip (SoC) solution. While many of our products are compatible with macOS Big Sur on Intel-based systems, please note that we cannot recommend using Apple Silicon-based systems for the time being until we have completed our tests or released updates to make our software and hardware compatible.


Please keep in mind that other software you intend to use (e.g., plug-ins) needs to be officially compatible with macOS Big Sur as well!
 
from today's Firefox 83 release notes:

  • For the recently released Apple devices built with Apple Silicon CPUs, you can use Firefox 83 and future releases without any change. This release (83) will support emulation under Apple’s Rosetta 2 that ships with macOS Big Sur.
  • We are working toward Firefox being natively-compiled for these CPUs in a future release.
 
SlCKB0Y said:
Just curious then, other than running ARM Linux what use would Fusion or Parallels be? Windows ARM which has no software?

I think they will target x64 using a similar method to QEMU
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I suspect that the reason we don’t have a release of Parallels today is this. They understand that the biggest reason that users want their software is to run Windows.
So they continue to work towards that objective.
 
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arn said:
Wiki to document universal and native Apple silicon apps as they are released. Another known tracking site for app compatibility is RoaringApps, but at the time of writing this, the listings are very limited.

Regarding the performance of Intel based binaries you might want to take a look here. According to first benchmarks the performance impact of Rosetta is surprisingly low - as in Rosetta on the M1 runs almost twice as well as native ARM on Windows SQ2.

Universal

Affinity Designer, Photo, & Publisher
Alfred
Aviary
BBEdit
BetterSnapTool
BetterTouchTool
Cinebench
Cinema 4D
coconutBattery
Compressor
Darkroom
Debit & Credit
Default Folder X
DEVONthink
djay Pro AI
Fantastical
Final Cut Pro
flickery
FusionCast
Garageband
Geekbench
Glimpses
GraphicConverter
HandBrake
HazeOver
iFinance
iStatistica
Keynote
Lingon X
LockRattler
Logic Pro
Logoist
MacFamilyTree
Mach Desktop
Magnet
Mainstage
Mints
Motion
Nova
Numbers
OmniFocus, OmniGraffle, OmniOutliner, OmniPlan, & OmniPresence
Pages
Parcel
PCalc
ScreenFloat
Screenium
Serial
SilentKnight
SiriMote
Smultron
Sparkle
Subler
Tayasui Sketches
Things
Tower
Transloader
Transmit
Twitter
Vectorize
ViennaRSS
Viscosity
World of Warcraft
xScope
Yoink

Apple Silicon Only

Announced for M1
Adobe Apps - Lightroom in Dec 2020, Photoshop in "early 2021" (beta available), 2021 for everything else
DaVinci Resolve - Unknown release date, beta available
Docker - Unknown Release Date
Pixelmator Pro 2.0 - Nov 19 2020
Microsoft Office - Unknown release date, beta available
Parallels - Unknown Release Date
VMware Fusion - Unknown Release Date
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Also Universal - DVC Planner.
 
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