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fisherking

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What good things? Nothing broke for some people?
What bug fixes? None of the major bugs have been fixed and we’re 5 updates in, and probably coming up on the next OS release. You sound like an Apple shill.

sure, some things break. some things get fixed. some things get better. etc etc. this is how it's always been with new OSes, and updates.

whining doesn't accomplish anything. and just because you feel bad about the updates, does not mean that, factually, they're bad. but you'll believe what you want; easier than facing the real world...
 

Camarillo Brillo

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Dec 6, 2019
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Twist it however you want. Yes I’m whining because I bought a 3500 dollar computer and I can’t hook up an external monitor still, without my cpu hitting 100 degrees Celsius under zero load, and now I can’t wake from sleep with it attached either. Not to mention kernel crashes which are rare on 10.15.3 but seem to be much more common on the more recent updates. And Apple continues to give me the run around, collecting data and saying they are working on it, but their updates aren’t fixing it. The fact is nothing has improved with this update. None of the broken things have been fixed, and more things have been broken with each update. Just have a look at some of the thread titles under the Catalina forum. Everything is a new bug. They’re blowing it.
 

fisherking

macrumors G4
Jul 16, 2010
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ny somewhere
Twist it however you want. Yes I’m whining because I bought a 3500 dollar computer and I can’t hook up an external monitor still, without my cpu hitting 100 degrees Celsius under zero load, and now I can’t wake from sleep with it attached either. Not to mention kernel crashes which are rare on 10.15.3 but seem to be much more common on the more recent updates. And Apple continues to give me the run around, collecting data and saying they are working on it, but their updates aren’t fixing it. The fact is nothing has improved with this update. None of the broken things have been fixed, and more things have been broken with each update. Just have a look at some of the thread titles under the Catalina forum. Everything is a new bug. They’re blowing it.

i feel for you, really. but you do know that not everyone is experiencing what you are? again, most people just use their macs, they don't spend time on mac-oriented forums.

i hope you get things sorted out... sooner than later. and am grateful that everything is working, well, on both my macs.
 

Sciuriware

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Jan 4, 2014
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Gelderland
I'm on 10.15.3 also. I've only read bad things about the last two releases. My computer is running pretty smoothly (for Catalina) and I don't want to break anything.

Apple is really blowing it with these Catalina updates. There have been issues since day 1 with Catalina that have not been addressed.

Catalina is by far the WORST Mac OS build I've ever had the displeasure of using. Wishing I was on something other than the 16" so I could go back to Mojave. (I've read some bad things about Lion - I have no experience with it, I started with Snow Leopard back then and then went straight to Mavericks when it came out)
If you are worried about reading bad news, then ignore all TV, radio, newspapers and Internet as a whole.
Please take notice of all the messages about 10.15.5 running OK.
;JOOP!
 

bogdanw

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Mar 10, 2009
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Why do you run that script?
To disable services I don’t need from starting up. Like iCloud, Safari Bookmarks Sync, Siri, screensharing or "routined -- A daemon that learns the historical location patterns of a user."
It's a modified version of this script "Disable bunch of #$!@ in Catalina" https://gist.github.com/pwnsdx/1217727ca57de2dd2a372afdd7a0fc21
and comes with "WARNING: It might disable things that you may not like. Please double check the services in the TODISABLE vars."
 

donawalt

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After reading your post, I opened the Console and found the same message repeated multiple times. As I have SIP disabled, I unloaded /System/Library/LaunchAgents/com.apple.mdworker.shared.plist, moved the plist in a backup folder and rebooted. The message is gone now. I have no idea what mdworker.shared is supposed to do, but Spotlight seems to be working just fine.

@bogdanw, I tried this command with SIP turned off, and I keep getting "No such file or directory." I verified the file exists, I even copied it and opened in textedit. I even pasted the command to ensure no typos, and I used sudo too, same thing:

launchctl unload /System/Library/LaunchAgents/com.apple.mdworker.shared.plist

what am I doing wrong? Thanks!
 

bogdanw

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@bogdanw, I tried this command with SIP turned off, and I keep getting "No such file or directory."
After disabling SIP, run this command to mount the system volume as writable
Code:
sudo mount -wu /
to unload mdworker.shared
Code:
sudo launchctl unload -wF /System/Library/LaunchAgents/com.apple.mdworker.shared.plist
launchctl unload -wF /System/Library/LaunchAgents/com.apple.mdworker.shared.plist
to move mdworker.shared from LaunchAgents to your Dektop
sudo mv /System/Library/LaunchAgents/com.apple.mdworker.shared.plist ~/Desktop/com.apple.mdworker.shared.plist
and reboot.
 
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kave

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Oct 31, 2012
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Catalina is getting worse. I updated 8 hours ago from 10.15.4 to 10.15.5. Worked for one hour with Safari and Mail.
Let it alone for two hours. The machine, MacBook Pro 15 2019, was so frozed I have never seen anything like it.
Had to press start button for one a long time before it finally started again.
 

donawalt

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Hmm, thanks @bogdanw, I am still getting the error. I took this screen capture showing SIP is enabled, that the file is there, and the error on the unload. I wasn't supposed to do this from Recovery Mode terminal app, was I? I just booted regular after disabling SIP, and tried as this shows:
Screen Shot 2020-06-02 at 10.46.51 AM.png
 

bogdanw

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Hmm, thanks @bogdanw, I am still getting the error. I took this screen capture showing SIP is enabled, that the file is there, and the error on the unload. I wasn't supposed to do this from Recovery Mode terminal app, was I? I just booted regular after disabling SIP, and tried as this shows:
Ignore the unload errors, move the file to your Desktop and reboot.
 
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chrfr

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Jul 11, 2009
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Of course there's no indication that the message about mdworker is an error at all. There's a lot of things that get logged which are normal operation.
 
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donawalt

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Agreed. @bogdanw , I notice now there is no com.apple.mdworker.shared.plist file in /System/Library/LaunchAgents/, and I deleted the moved one (form the Trash too) when everything looked fine, so it exists nowhere on my computer as far as I know. So I guess it generates that plist file only under certain circumstances or not at all?
 

chrfr

macrumors G5
Jul 11, 2009
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Agreed. @bogdanw , I notice now there is no com.apple.mdworker.shared.plist file in /System/Library/LaunchAgents/, and I deleted the moved one (form the Trash too) when everything looked fine, so it exists nowhere on my computer as far as I know. So I guess it generates that plist file only under certain circumstances or not at all?
In general, system files are generated when the operating system is installed or updated.
 
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bogdanw

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Of course there's no indication that the message about mdworker is an error at all. There's a lot of things that get logged which are normal operation.
This doesn't look like normal to me
log.jpg


Agreed. @bogdanw , I notice now there is no com.apple.mdworker.shared.plist file in /System/Library/LaunchAgents/, and I deleted the moved one (form the Trash too) when everything looked fine, so it exists nowhere on my computer as far as I know. So I guess it generates that plist file only under certain circumstances or not at all?
You shouldn't have delete it. If the problem was fixed in another way, you could have moved it back.
 

donawalt

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I downloaded the Supplemental 10.15.5 update from https://support.apple.com/en_US/downloads, and installed it - took about 30 minutes. But the .plist file is still not there? I don't have another Mac available to pull it from.

EDIT: I am updating with the June 1 combo update, I'll see if that works!
 
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bogdanw

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EDIT: I am updating with the June 1 combo update, I'll see if that works!
Don't worry to much about it, here is the content of the file and someone else can attest its validity
Code:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd">
<plist version="1.0">
<dict>
    <key>POSIXSpawnType</key>
    <string>Interactive</string>
    <key>ThrottleInterval</key>
    <integer>1</integer>
    <key>EnableTransactions</key>
    <true/>
    <key>EnablePressuredExit</key>
    <true/>
    <key>MultipleInstances</key>
    <true/>
    <key>EnvironmentVariables</key>
    <dict>
        <key>MallocCorruptionAbort</key>
        <string>1</string>
    </dict>
    <key>Label</key>
    <string>com.apple.mdworker.shared</string>
    <key>LimitLoadToSessionType</key>
    <string>Background</string>
    <key>MachServices</key>
    <dict>
        <key>com.apple.mdworker.shared</key>
        <dict>
            <key>ResetAtClose</key>
            <true/>
        </dict>
    </dict>
    <key>ProgramArguments</key>
    <array>
        <string>/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Frameworks/Metadata.framework/Versions/A/Support/mdworker_shared</string>
        <string>-s</string>
        <string>mdworker</string>
        <string>-c</string>
        <string>MDSImporterWorker</string>
        <string>-m</string>
        <string>com.apple.mdworker.shared</string>
    </array>
    <key>CFBundleIdentifier</key>
    <string>com.apple.Spotlight</string>
    <key>LowPriorityBackgroundIO</key>
    <false/>
</dict>
</plist>
 

donawalt

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Sep 10, 2015
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Thanks. The combo update did not add the file back.

Is this how I create the file, so that contents, permissions, user are correct? ---->

sudo vim /System/Library/LaunchAgents/com.apple.mdworker.shared.plist

enter password (this will start a text editor)
now to enter text edit mode, type "i"
now copy and paste the contents from the above post above...
now type the escape key then type:
:wq! (this will write the new contents to the file and quit vim)

to change the file access:
sudo chmod 644 /System/Library/LaunchAgents/com.apple.mdworker.shared.plist

to change the file owner:
sudo chown root:wheel /System/Library/LaunchAgents/com.apple.mdworker.shared.plist
 
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