All Devices Updated Apple Maps

[eyeseeyou]

On my x and the latest beta maps has delays and crashes along with google maps.


I just reset location and network settings to see if that makes a difference.

So far so good. Location and delays seem to be improved

 

[G1Ravage]

Google isn't so hot when it comes to modeling buildings, either. Even though it's been documented that Google has better roof data for buildings in major cities.

Below, you can see the same apartment building in both Google Maps and Apple Maps. Google didn't even try. (And this is the OLD Apple Maps.)

 

[MozMan68]

When I posted the pics from Pittsburgh, I originally captured identical views from Google Maps but decided not to include them.

While some buildings, especially downtown, were drawn with all details, they were too transparent to really see. I guess that is helpful if you are focused on the streets, but this wasn’t in navigation mode.

Just a preference thing I guess.

One thing I really liked in Google though was that when I zoomed in close enough to Heinz Stadium, I was able to see seating sections. I guess Apple will eventually have the same; lime zooming in to a mall or airport.

 

[gwhizkids]

When I posted the pics from Pittsburgh, I originally captured identical views from Google Maps but decided not to include them.

While some buildings, especially downtown, were drawn with all details, they were too transparent to really see. I guess that is helpful if you are focused on the streets, but this wasn’t in navigation mode.

Just a preference thing I guess.

One thing I really liked in Google though was that when I zoomed in close enough to Heinz Stadium, I was able to see seating sections. I guess Apple will eventually have the same; lime zooming in to a mall or airport.

They already have gate info for airports in new Maps.

 

[MozMan68]

They already have gate info for airports in new Maps.

Yeah...sorry...that’s what I was saying. Apple has malls and airports. Would be nice if they added stadium seating sections.

 

[G1Ravage]

*wakes up*

*checks phone*

No update yet.

 

[Hi Tek]

I'll check back when it's categorized by Country in the notes .... since I'm in Canada. Hopefully I'm incorrect and we are getting the updated maps as well when iOS 13 drops

 

[MozMan68]

I'll check back when it's categorized by Country in the notes .... since I'm in Canada. Hopefully I'm incorrect and we are getting the updated maps as well when iOS 13 drops

When it drops? Less than a month from now? We won’t even have all the USA by then.

If they stick to having the US done by the end of the year as announced, my guess is Canada will come shortly thereafter. If it does come in 2019, it will probably be limited to Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver at most.

 

[Hi Tek]

it will probably be limited to Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver at most.

As I'm in Hali ... guess we will have to see

 

[G1Ravage]

I'm holding out hope that Apple is planning the official "wide release" of the Northeast update to coincide with the start of the US Open tennis tournament, which begins tomorrow. From the photos I saw on Reddit, Apple did an incredible job with the detailed renderings of the US Open tennis stadiums at Flushing Meadows-Corona Park. Anticipating hundreds of thousands of people descending upon New York City and Queens over the next two to three weeks, it would be an excellent opportunity to show off their new maps....

A boy has the right to dream....

 

[MozMan68]

I'm holding out hope that Apple is planning the official "wide release" of the Northeast update to coincide with the start of the US Open tennis tournament, which begins tomorrow. From the photos I saw on Reddit, Apple did an incredible job with the detailed renderings of the US Open tennis stadiums at Flushing Meadows-Corona Park. Anticipating hundreds of thousands of people descending upon New York City and Queens over the next two to three weeks, it would be an excellent opportunity to show off their new maps....

A boy has the right to dream....

It works for me so I can enjoy when I’m there later this week. That’s all that matters.

 

[gwhizkids]

It works for me so I can enjoy when I’m there later this week. That’s all that matters.

I’m heading into the City tomorrow. I’ll give you guys my impressions after.

 

[gwhizkids]

DuckDuckGo is still using the old Maps for the Northeast.

 

[MozMan68]

DuckDuckGo is still using the old Maps for the Northeast.

I have that bookmarked and check regularly as well. Only wish they had the 3D view as well.

 

[gwhizkids]

Still have the new Maps this morning. Still only on my phone.

NYC, here I come!

 

[G1Ravage]

Still have the new Maps this morning. Still only on my phone.

NYC, here I come!

C'mon down. Bring your maps with you and throw them my way.

Besides the updated look, I'm looking forward to seeing how the prompts and instructions have changed, as many highway signs have been updated over the past seven years.

 

[gwhizkids]

One thing I am noticing on new Maps (and my wife is noticing as well on old Maps) is that Apple’s routing has changed significantly. From my town down to I-84 in Danbury, you can get there by 2 main routes: US Route 7 (a trunk line highway) or CT State Route 133 (a 2 lane road that is more direct for those of us living in the Eastern portions of my town). Years ago, Apple Maps would “resist” efforts to take the more direct route (presumably its algorithms were calculated to direct you to the more major highway). It would manifest this resistance by continually telling you to turn around if you were on Route 133. You would have to drive 3 or 4 miles before it would give in and “let” you continue on that route. Over time, it “learned” that this was the faster route for certain trips and would no longer resist. This past week, its back to its old tricks. My wife even called me from the road last week to ask if I was aware of any major construction or an accident on Route 133 that was causing Maps to do this. I then experienced it myself on Saturday afternoon.

Hopefully, this is a temporary thing and will “learn” again that this is the most efficient route. The continual “turn around” commands get a little old...

 

[gwhizkids]

One thing I am noticing is that transit directions in NYC are not including subway options right now. I have all transit modes selected

 

[G1Ravage]

One thing I am noticing is that transit directions in NYC are not including subway options right now. I have all transit modes selected

No, that's Apple Maps being smart enough to keep you away from the subway this morning.
[doublepost=1566823127][/doublepost]Subway directions seem to be working okay for me.

 

[G1Ravage]

Photo request: Can someone with the new maps show me the intersection of Northern Boulevard & 31st Street in Queens? (Zoomed in.)

Also, the area surrounding the intersection of Linden Place & 31st Road in Queens? (Zoomed out, but with the buildings still showing.)

This is...for science.

 

[dk001]

I went digging through the Apple Support forums, and found a few topics about this. Most people believe that, when your iPhone is plugged into your car to utilize CarPlay, that CarPlay pulls certain information from your car's GPS or head unit to be more specific regarding your speed and location. That would lead credence to my observation that this nonsense began after updating my car's infotainment system to the latest software.

Although, one person had this to say:


Hi, and thank you both for your replies. However, both I and Apple disagree. Yes, I read the whole thread, so I saw the replies where it was suggested that the car manufacturer is at fault. However, if you read the entire thread, you will see people have this identical issue with Fords, Porches, Subarus, GMCs, and others. If it is an issue with Ford's system, it is apparently an issue with every car maker mentioned in this (and the other, numerous) threads. That alone suggests strongly the problem is Apple's, not the various car makers.


Second, yes, I and most in this thread know that CarPlay derives its GPS from the car when on USB, not the phone. So, it is mysterious that, as I specifically wrote (and have others) the GPS in the vehicle is completely accurate using its own navigation screen. It is only when interfacing with CarPlay that things run amok. This factor alone is not indicative of whose system is at fault in corrupting the transfer of data from the car's GPS to the iPhone, but it shows that CarPlay is the conduit for the fault.


Third, posts in this and the other numerous threads, in this and other forums, suggest the problem is intermittent. Mine is no different. I took three car trips yesterday around my city. I posted after the first. The second trip yielded perfect results on CarPlay--exact/correct locations found on each map app. The third trip had the issue again. My one trip so far this morning had no issue at all.


Finally, and maybe what I should have led with, yesterday evening, I went to the Genius Bar at my Apple Store and asked about the issue. The Apple Store employee stated, unequivocally, that this is a known issue with CarPlay, and is being worked on at Apple.


I probably should have just gone straight to the Apple Store before posting here, but, I'd just done a Google search, and thought I'd add my similar experience. I've owned Apple products for 34 years. I find it frustrating when they don't acknowledge a problem that seems widely reported on Internet forums, but, since the Apple employee last night fully acknowledged that this was an Apple problem, and that they are working on it, that's good enough for me; I wanted to pass that on to others in this thread who have been having this problem crop up. Thanks.

So, I dunno right now. I'm going to look into doing a hard reboot of my car's systems, and see if that helps. It's possible they only go into a "sleep mode" when the car is off.
[doublepost=1566528081][/doublepost]Someone said this, back on April 30:

Contact Ford. The head unit needs to be updated. Changes were applied recently to the Global GPS system to account for drift of the magnetic pole. The nav unit in the car is probably using an old database that does not account for the change. When you plug the phone into the head unit, it gets GPS data from the head unit instead of the phones own built in GPS.

That's interesting. I *did* notice that the compass on my car's rear view mirror seems to be a bit off. Like when I'm heading east, my mirror says I'm going southeast. They rarely match up.

Thumbs up on the “old data”. Both my Evoque and my Escape compasses are off by about an hour (position). This makes sense.
Need a checkup for each anyway ...

After reading later posts I may have another issue. Sigh ....

 

[MozMan68]

Photo request: Can someone with the new maps show me the intersection of Northern Boulevard & 31st Street in Queens? (Zoomed in.)

Also, the area surrounding the intersection of Linden Place & 31st Road in Queens? (Zoomed out, but with the buildings still showing.)

This is...for science.

 

[G1Ravage]

Thanks! Glad to see Northern Boulevard & 31st Street is corrected. I mean, I should have assumed it would be with Apple's own first-party data. But that intersection was super funky before.

My phone is currently updating to iOS 12.4.1.

 

[MozMan68]

Thanks! Glad to see Northern Boulevard & 31st Street is corrected. I mean, I should have assumed it would be with Apple's own first-party data. But that intersection was super funky before.

My phone is currently updating to iOS 12.4.1.

Updated my work phone to 12.4.1 and still don’t have new NE maps on it.

 

[G1Ravage]

Updated my work phone to 12.4.1 and still don’t have new NE maps on it.

Same here. Still nothing for me.

Since I'm still on Old Maps, here's what Northern Boulevard & 31st Street used to look like.

The intersection was so badly drawn, that if you were staying on Northern Boulevard, it would treat it as though there was a sharp turn you had to watch out for. lol
[doublepost=1566858022][/doublepost]interesting...on your New Maps, that building with "Powerhouse Gym" in it is misdrawn. It shows it having an extra wing that doesn't exist on the satellite photos.