How is the battery drain over night when you close the lid (i.e. not shut down)?
Thanks.
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Upgrading 2013-2015 Macbook Pro SSD to M.2 NVMe
- Thread starter maxthackray
- WikiPost WikiPost
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
- Status
Thanks.
To be honest I don't really know.My Mac is plugged in to the mains most of the time and since I put this drive in not taken it anywhere to keep an eye on the battery.
Something to note: with hibernation mode 25, the Mac will probably kernel panic when waking from hibernation when opening the lid. I say this based on posts I have seen in this thread.
I've been reading through this thread extensively today. I have a late 2013 13" rMBP with 256GB. Make mental note: next time, buy an overkill in storage to avoid regrets a few years later. Anyway, there's also a positive side: if I upgrade now, I will get a speed bump.
I have my eye on an ADATA SX8200Pro and this adapter, which looks visually identical to the JSER one. I bet both are just the same Chinese one with a different branding. A few questions:
- What's the difference between the SX8200Pro and the SX8200? The Pro is cheaper, which is weird, because it would also be faster...
- I don't like the prospect of reflashing my boot ROM. I've done more dangerous things (to computers) in my life, but I try to avoid it. I know the OWC drives are double the price, but can they do sleep+hibernate fine without reflashing the boot ROM? That could be a reason to pick them over the DIY solution.
Thanks for a great thread!
I have my eye on an ADATA SX8200Pro and this adapter, which looks visually identical to the JSER one. I bet both are just the same Chinese one with a different branding. A few questions:
- What's the difference between the SX8200Pro and the SX8200? The Pro is cheaper, which is weird, because it would also be faster...
- I don't like the prospect of reflashing my boot ROM. I've done more dangerous things (to computers) in my life, but I try to avoid it. I know the OWC drives are double the price, but can they do sleep+hibernate fine without reflashing the boot ROM? That could be a reason to pick them over the DIY solution.
Thanks for a great thread!
As an Amazon Associate, MacRumors earns a commission from qualifying purchases made through links in this post.
Just did the upgrade on a 2013 rMBP 13". Created a Mojave installer bootable stick, swapped the SSDs and formatted the new one to APFS encrypted. Then installed Mojave.
Two hints for the Adata sx8200:
Do not use the provided heat sink. It will be too thick. And for the hole alignment: I used a small sharp knife to enlargen the hole. See pic included. No problems.
Next is the bootrom mod. I will use a Matt card, which is a safer than flashing directly. Will report.
Two hints for the Adata sx8200:
Do not use the provided heat sink. It will be too thick. And for the hole alignment: I used a small sharp knife to enlargen the hole. See pic included. No problems.
Next is the bootrom mod. I will use a Matt card, which is a safer than flashing directly. Will report.
Attachments
Hello all. I've installed the Crucial P1 into my 2014 MacBook Pro and everything was fine until I tried to change the hibernation mode to 25 as mentioned in the previous page.
The system will sleep but not wake up. I'll close the lid, let it sit for a minute, then when reopening, there isn't any kind of activity for 5 minutes. I just have to do a hard reset.
The system will sleep but not wake up. I'll close the lid, let it sit for a minute, then when reopening, there isn't any kind of activity for 5 minutes. I just have to do a hard reset.
You have to disable hibernation unless you are using a 2015 MBP or you flash a modded bootrom.
Okay, reverted back to mode 3 and everything is good.
I'm going to compare performance with an EX920 1TB which should be in hand soon. I'm thinking the 5.0GT/s of the MacBook is the limiting factor and both drives should perform similarly.
I'll put the whichever one I don't use into my PC
.
Unfortunately, without hibernation 25, the MBP will drain battery with the lid closed. Not sure how much it will drain and it is something you may want to monitor.Okay, reverted back to mode 3 and everything is good.
I'm going to compare performance with an EX920 1TB which should be in hand soon. I'm thinking the 5.0GT/s of the MacBook is the limiting factor and both drives should perform similarly.
I'll put the whichever one I don't use into my PC
It's usually less than 10% per day. I'll check if there's any difference on these new drives.
I forgot to ask, is there any option to flash my bootrom? I've never heard of doing stuff like this on Macs.
It's been talked about in this thread. Here is one post about flashing: https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...sd-to-m-2-nvme.2034976/page-113#post-26941599
Wow, that's intense work. So the main benefit is hibernation? It mentions speed might be increased but I'm looking in my system report and it's using x4. Read speeds are at 1500, are the 2015s only capable of ~3000 read speeds because of their 8.0GT/s capability? The 2014 is 5.0 GT/s.
Here's a post with some speed tests: https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...sd-to-m-2-nvme.2034976/page-109#post-26916379
After installing the new drive use Disk Utility to format to APFS and then you can install Mojave. I restored my Mojave backup from a Time Machine backup. You can make a USB Mojave install stick to make things go faster if you're going for a clean install.
I'm looking into doing exactly what you are doing, so I'm following this with anticipation. I just mailed the CMIzapper people for more explanation about the Matt card, because not all is clear yet.
Thanks already for the practical tips in this progress report!
It's a 2014 macbook, right? Since a prerequisite for bootcamp is using an internal drive, my first guess would be that windows will not install properly on a drive that is not fully supported by the EFI (which behaves in some ways similar to an external drive).
If you don't want to modify your bootrom, you might have luck with one of the workarounds used for installing windows with bootcamp on an external drive (I've never tried this - maybe google can help you out here).
Regarding the usage of a matt card for a modified bootrom: what is not clear yet? Since I've done this recently, maybe I can help you.
I can't really find out what the role is of the Matt card. Will it contain the modified ROM? Or will it act as a backup, working ROM in case I screw up flashing the mac's ROM?
I asked CMIzapper and Harald told me that the Matt card comes with a ROM and that it's not necessary to flash the Matt card. So that makes it sound like the Matt card would act as a backup, just in case.
However, when people in this thread write that the Matt card is a "safer" way to flash the new bootROM, I was expecting the other scenario. It sounds safer to flash a ROM onto a Matt card and to leave the mac's original ROM chip untouched.
Once I get that bit, I can start figuring out what equipment I need in addition to the actual Matt card.
The matt card is simply a ROM that overrides your logicboard's ROM whenever it is plugged in. Usually those things are used if you messed up your original EFI for some reason. When you buy it, it comes pre-flashed with an unmodified image of a working bootrom matching your mac, i.e. when you buy a matt card for a 2013/2014 mac, it will also not contain the correct NVMe driver that is needed here.
However, since this card can be rewritten completely independent from your mac's original bootrom, you always have your "untouched" original bootrom as a backup. (I.e. in case you want to revert to the stock bootrom, you can simply remove the matt card.)
Equipment needed besides the matt card is only an SPI programmer (e.g. a raspberry pi or an USB programmer that can be attached to any PC). Also, using a SOIC8 clamp for the connection of the programmer to the matt card is a little more convenient compared to soldering wires to the matt card...
Great, that's what I was hoping for! I have a raspberry pi, so I just need to get the SOIC8 clamp, I guess. I found the message on the RPi SPI flashing in this thread, so I can read up on that.
Do I still need to extract my original mac's bootROM from its ROM chip? Or can I use the Matt card's ROM and modify that one? I'm on Mojave.
I would always go for the bootrom of your mac, because it contains the serial number somewhere (I guess also the "find my mac" feature somehow checks the serial there?). Also since you are on mojave, it should probably be pretty up to date. You should have a copy of the *scap/*fd file in your EFI partition, or you can extract it directly from your bootrom using dosdude1's ROMTool.
Interesting.
That's my Crucial P1 1TB.
It looks about right. I think you and me have similar systems, mid 2014 15".
That's my Crucial P1 1TB.