Upgrading 2013-2015 Macbook Pro SSD to M.2 NVMe

[Alpenjodel]

and can you provide a report please in Terminal with:
pmset -g log|grep -e " Sleep " -e " Wake "

maybe you have a program running that prevents standby?

 

[MpchBrwn]

maybe you have a program running that prevents standby?

yeah that make sense, but battery drain wouldn't be that good , right?
p.s. matt card arriving tomorrow,I hope , thanks Alpenjodel for all the info/suport

 

[x34]

you find something in here?


AC Power:

System Sleep Timer (Minutes): 1

Disk Sleep Timer (Minutes): 0

Display Sleep Timer (Minutes): 10

Wake on AC Change: No

Wake on Clamshell Open: Yes

Wake on LAN: Yes

AutoPowerOff Delay: 28800

AutoPowerOff Enabled: 1

DarkWakeBackgroundTasks: 1

Display Sleep Uses Dim: Yes

GPUSwitch: 2

Hibernate Mode: 3

High Standby Delay: 86400

PrioritizeNetworkReachabilityOverSleep: 0

Standby Battery Threshold: 50

Standby Delay: 10800

Standby Enabled: 1

Battery Power:

System Sleep Timer (Minutes): 2

Disk Sleep Timer (Minutes): 0

Display Sleep Timer (Minutes): 2

Wake on AC Change: No

Wake on Clamshell Open: Yes

AutoPowerOff Delay: 28800

AutoPowerOff Enabled: 1

Current Power Source: Yes

DarkWakeBackgroundTasks: 0

Display Sleep Uses Dim: Yes

GPUSwitch: 2

Hibernate Mode: 3

High Standby Delay: 86400

Reduce Brightness: Yes

Standby Battery Threshold: 50

Standby Delay: 10800

Standby Enabled: 1

 

[whaledandan]

Hello, I am new here.
I have a rMBP late 2013 with macOS Mojave 10.14.4 (model:A1502), recently I want to upgrade to 1tb ssd (original: 5oo gb apple ssd).
I have ordered a samsung PM961 1tb m.2 nome ssd.
I read some thread and reply, but seldom of them mentioned about this kind of ssd installing on this model of rMBP.
Does anyone know any about this brand of SSD?
Do I need to mod the bootrom after installing it?

Thank you all a lot!

 

[jackqueenking]

he/she has a unicorn also. ;-)
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how many hours have you tested? can you post your pmset -g output
thanks

The reason it is working with hibernate mode 3 is because mode 3 is a hybrid between mode 0 and 25 and it depends on the current charge of the battery as well as if the computer turns off.

In pmset settings there is Standby, standby delay low, standby delay high. When you close the lid of the macbook with standby = 1 then it goes into sleep mode for a specified amount of time. If the macbook remains untouched and the battery is high, then hibernate mode 3 will kick in after 86400 seconds, if the battery is low hibernate mode 3 will kick in after "Standbydelaylow" seconds.

Mode 3 copies the contents to ram and SSD it is a safer version of 0 which only copies contents to ram, and a faster wakeup version than mode 25. If you wakeup your mac and the mac hasn't shut down due to low battery then mode 3 will restore the contents from RAM just like mode 0 (This is why it works for 2014), if your battery runs out or goes very low the macbook will turn off completely with the contents stored to SSD as well, if you attempt to wake up your mac from this state with a power cord, the mac will crash because the RAM contents are lost and the system tries to restore the state of the PC from the image stored on the SSD just like mode 25 does. This is where you will hear the restart sound twice and its exactly the problem for pre-2015 models.

Turning off standby prevents this delay and the macbook goes directly into hibernate mode 3 so a repeat of the process above, if the battery is charged it will restore the contents from RAM, if it goes low and turns off it will crash.

 

[x34]

thank you, that does explain a lot!

Turning off standby prevents this delay and the macbook goes directly into hibernate mode 3 so a repeat of the process above, if the battery is charged it will restore the contents from RAM, if it goes low and turns off it will crash.

so, what's the best way to handle all this on the 2014 macbooks?

 

[jackqueenking]

thank you, that does explain a lot!



so, what's the best way to handle all this on the 2014 macbooks?

Set hibernate mode to 0, turn off your mac if its going to be on standby for a while, this will prevent data loss if your pc turns off. I don't know if mode 3 and mode 25 restore your content properly when the PC crashes and restarts cause the contents are technically saved it just can't restore them on wakeup, but either way the fact that it crashes isn't good so stick with mode 0!

 

[Audit13]

for normal users the crucial and intel should be fine. samsung drains so much power, i wont install it in a macbook.

I realize this and, since the SSD will go into an Air, higher read/write speeds will not matter in an Air with a lower-speed PCI-e bus.

 

[dobrink]

Won’t the mac still go into hibernate after the standby seconds are reached (even in mode 0)? So should the standby also be touched just to be safe?

 

[Audit13]

Hello, I am new here.
I have a rMBP late 2013 with macOS Mojave 10.14.4 (model:A1502), recently I want to upgrade to 1tb ssd (original: 5oo gb apple ssd).
I have ordered a samsung PM961 1tb m.2 nome ssd.
I read some thread and reply, but seldom of them mentioned about this kind of ssd installing on this model of rMBP.
Does anyone know any about this brand of SSD?
Do I need to mod the bootrom after installing it?

Thank you all a lot!

The read and write speeds of the 961 are going to be limited by the MacBook's pci-e bus speed.

It's also been reported in this thread that Samsung drives cause higher battery drain and heat.

 

[adalbertoma]

Anyone tried the new Plextor M9Pe? Seems like a great drive for a good price today at Newegg...

Not sure if being double sided would cause any problems for installation on a Mid-2014 15" MBP...

 

[Audit13]

Anyone tried the new Plextor M9Pe? Seems like a great drive for a good price today at Newegg...

Not sure if being double sided would cause any problems for installation on a Mid-2014 15" MBP...

I think double sided will work if you use the small Sintech adapter.

There are people in this thread using 512 GB and 1 TB drives that are not single-sided.

 

[adalbertoma]

I think double sided will work if you use the small Sintech adapter.

Thanks for the confirmation, sir!

I do have the small adapter. Now just a matter of pulling the trigger in the purchase.

 

[Audit13]

Thanks for the confirmation, sir!

I do have the small adapter. Now just a matter of pulling the trigger in the purchase.

Good luck.

I'm not sure if your MacBook supports pcie 2.0 x2 or x4. If it's x2, getting a drive with high read and write may not be any better than a drive with lower values.

 

[Speedex]

Hello,

i have a new Samsung SSD 970 Evo Plus 1TB (https://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/ssd/product/consumer/970evoplus/) with this sintech adapter (http://eshop.sintech.cn/ngff-m2-pcie-ssd-card-as-2013-2014-2015-macbook-ssd-p-1139.html) in my Macbook Air Mid 2013.
I booted mac os mojave from my usb stick. Then i tried to erase the ssd to AFPS. In the meantime the macbook air reboots with no exception.
So i thought the process was not succesful.

After that i erase the ssd to the mac os journaled format which was succesful.
So i tried to install mac os mojave. During the installation process the macbook air reboots and shows "Your computer restarted because of a problem. Press a key or wait a few seconds to continue starting up."

Any suggestions?

 

[Audit13]

Hello,

i have a new Samsung SSD 970 Evo Plus 1TB (https://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/ssd/product/consumer/970evoplus/) with this sintech adapter (http://eshop.sintech.cn/ngff-m2-pcie-ssd-card-as-2013-2014-2015-macbook-ssd-p-1139.html) in my Macbook Air Mid 2013.
I booted mac os mojave from my usb stick. Then i tried to erase the ssd to AFPS. In the meantime the macbook air reboots with no exception.
So i thought the process was not succesful.

After that i erase the ssd to the mac os journaled format which was succesful.
So i tried to install mac os mojave. During the installation process the macbook air reboots and shows "Your computer restarted because of a problem. Press a key or wait a few seconds to continue starting up."

Any suggestions?

Did you try reinstalling the drive and adapter?

The MacBook is running the latest bootrom?

Tried internet recovery to install the os?

Were you able to confirm the drive is working in another computer?

Tried creating a Mojave usb installer with a different flash drive?

 

[Speedex]

Did you try reinstalling the drive and adapter?

Not yet. I will try.

The MacBook is running the latest bootrom?

Boot Rom Version: 110.0.0
Which is the latest?

Tried internet recovery to install the os?

Yes, same error.

Were you able to confirm the drive is working in another computer?

No.

Maybe relevant to know:
the last 2 years was a OWC SSD installed.

 

[Audit13]

Not yet. I will try.

Boot Rom Version: 110.0.0
Which is the latest?

Maybe relevant to know:
the last 2 years was a OWC SSD installed.

Yes, 110.0.0.0 is the latest.

I don't think having an owc SSD would make a difference.

Maybe the air doesn't like the drive and adapter combination.

 

[stassk8]

hello, replaced ssd in macbook 13 2014 - on Kingston SHPM2280P2 (AHCI). Sometimes appears at boot time flashing question mark, after a few reboot loaded successfully (and sometimes when leaving sleep) hibernatemode 3, battery ok. Need to change the adapter? adapter short green, contacts kapton tape

 

[x34]

hello, replaced ssd in macbook 13 2014 - on Kingston SHPM2280P2 (AHCI). Sometimes appears at boot time flashing question mark, after a few reboot loaded succssfully (and sometimes when leaving sleep) hibernatemode 3, battery ok. Need to change the adapter? adapter short green, contacts kapton tape

set hibernate mode to 0 and/ or try different adapter.

 

[Speedex]

Did you try reinstalling the drive and adapter?

Same error :/

 

[Audit13]

Same error :/

At this point, I think you need to try a different drive or adapter.

I haven't seen anyone mention using a 970 Evo Plus before.

 

[jackqueenking]

Won’t the mac still go into hibernate after the standby seconds are reached (even in mode 0)? So should the standby also be touched just to be safe?

That's correct, mode 0 just copies contents to RAM only. If you disable standby when you close the lid the mac will go directly into hibernate mode 0. Disabling standby is recommended because the idle power consumption of NVME drives is higher than the stock apple SSD and the wakeup time difference wont be noticeable. If you leave standby on, you may experience higher battery drain when the lid is closed until standbydelay seconds are reached.

 

[preet1469]

Hi guys, i have a Macbook Air 11inch early 2015 model and i want to upgrade the ssd on it. So can someone recommend what affordable ssds are available for my mac model. And what sintech adapter i am gonna need? Black or green? TIA

 

[Audit13]

Anyone try an HP ex900? I bought a 256 for a 2017 air that has no SSD.

Thanks.