Hi, as far as I know both short and large are exactly the same, I bought both a few months ago and the large one doesn't have more circuits or anything just like a flat black base where you can screw your drive. Actually the serial code in both is the same.
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Upgrading 2013-2015 Macbook Pro SSD to M.2 NVMe
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Hi, as far as I know both short and large are exactly the same, I bought both a few months ago and the large one doesn't have more circuits or anything just like a flat black base where you can screw your drive. Actually the serial code in both is the same.
ok tomorrow I will send it, now I'm not at home and I'm using the AHCI ssd for now
its the best power saving combination i have use with my early 2015 13" MBP with sabrent rocket 1TB/short sintech adapter, here's an example last night hibernation for over 8 hrs. with no power loss.
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Hello everyone,
Just wanted to say that I finally managed to install catalina on the samsung evo 970 (which works great btw).
1st time I tried when the ssd wasn't recognized, I forgot to format the drive in apfs (mac os extended works too). Anyway many thanks for the tips and earlier feedbacks !
Just wanted to say that I finally managed to install catalina on the samsung evo 970 (which works great btw).
1st time I tried when the ssd wasn't recognized, I forgot to format the drive in apfs (mac os extended works too). Anyway many thanks for the tips and earlier feedbacks !
Wait, so if I just got my sabrent ssd and adapter and am about to upgrade, how would I set it like yours so it doesn’t lose power and hibernates correctly (also I’m just planning to run macos)?
Ok. Newbie here.
I've got a 2014 MBA. It was i5/4gb ram/128gb ssd running Mojave.
I replaced the logic board with an i7/8gb ram. I continued to use my old oem 128 ssd. Everything was fine.
I decided to upgrade the ssd.
I got this Sintech nvme adapter...https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CWWAENG/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_J9EsEb17FDG0R
I got this Sabrent Rocket 256 ssd...https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07KGLN3HN/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_--EsEbV7XW303
I installed the Sabrent ssd into the adapter before installing the adapter into the Mac. Before screwing the adapter down to the logic board, I noticed the ssd was pivoted up at about at 20 degree angle if I didn't hold it flat against the adapter. You could easily push the ssd to flat against the adapter, but it would sort of softly spring back up to 20 degrees. Is that common? Maybe most ppl don't notice it because the install the adapter into the laptop first?
So, I removed the old ssd, and popped in the new one. I inserted the screw that came with the adapter and secured it and the new ssd. I noticed that all along the length of the adapter/ssd assembly, they don't lay flat against one another. There's a 1mm-2mm gap between them. The ssd also has a sticker or something (heatsink?) along the length of its top side that's also .5mm-1mm thick. Long story, short, the adapter/ssd assembly sticks up about 3mm above the rest of the components around it. Putting the back on the MBA, there seemed to be a little resistance against the back plate. I could close the back, but it didn't just pop back down like it did with the old ssd. I was concerned about clearance, so I put a small drop of soft candle wax on the back of the ssd and put on the lid. Sure enough, the wax dot completely (and I mean completely) flattened out, so the ssd is clearly touching the thin black plastic lining of the back cover (but not touching metal as far as I see). Is that an issue?
I installed Mojave from a thumb drive.
With the old oem ssd, Blackmagic was showing 300 mbs write, 600 mbs read. Now, I'm getting about 1000 mbs write, 1300 mbs read.
Lastly, the laptop runs fine, but I ran the apple diagnostic. It reported an ssd error of VDH002. Any ideas? Thanks!
I've got a 2014 MBA. It was i5/4gb ram/128gb ssd running Mojave.
I replaced the logic board with an i7/8gb ram. I continued to use my old oem 128 ssd. Everything was fine.
I decided to upgrade the ssd.
I got this Sintech nvme adapter...https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CWWAENG/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_J9EsEb17FDG0R
I got this Sabrent Rocket 256 ssd...https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07KGLN3HN/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_--EsEbV7XW303
I installed the Sabrent ssd into the adapter before installing the adapter into the Mac. Before screwing the adapter down to the logic board, I noticed the ssd was pivoted up at about at 20 degree angle if I didn't hold it flat against the adapter. You could easily push the ssd to flat against the adapter, but it would sort of softly spring back up to 20 degrees. Is that common? Maybe most ppl don't notice it because the install the adapter into the laptop first?
So, I removed the old ssd, and popped in the new one. I inserted the screw that came with the adapter and secured it and the new ssd. I noticed that all along the length of the adapter/ssd assembly, they don't lay flat against one another. There's a 1mm-2mm gap between them. The ssd also has a sticker or something (heatsink?) along the length of its top side that's also .5mm-1mm thick. Long story, short, the adapter/ssd assembly sticks up about 3mm above the rest of the components around it. Putting the back on the MBA, there seemed to be a little resistance against the back plate. I could close the back, but it didn't just pop back down like it did with the old ssd. I was concerned about clearance, so I put a small drop of soft candle wax on the back of the ssd and put on the lid. Sure enough, the wax dot completely (and I mean completely) flattened out, so the ssd is clearly touching the thin black plastic lining of the back cover (but not touching metal as far as I see). Is that an issue?
I installed Mojave from a thumb drive.
With the old oem ssd, Blackmagic was showing 300 mbs write, 600 mbs read. Now, I'm getting about 1000 mbs write, 1300 mbs read.
Lastly, the laptop runs fine, but I ran the apple diagnostic. It reported an ssd error of VDH002. Any ideas? Thanks!
Hi guys, seems that after the flash of the modified bootrom and the use of the Sintech adapter (instead of chenyang) on my MBP2014 all is ok, no more kernel panics, full speed (x4), hibernation works. I have only one more question: it is normal that the SSD is seen as external even with the modified bootrom?
a) Yes, all NVME drives spring up to about 30-40 degrees for inserting and taking out. Make sure you push it into the socket all the way while it is at 30 degrees, then push it down flat to screw in the retaining stud.
b) It's ok for plastic on the NVME sse to touch the cover. These things run hot, so the cover might help with cooling.
c) 300/600 rw is normal for Apple 128GB. 1000/1200 rw is normal for NVME in a 2014 MBA. Congrats on getting it working! I got the same in my 2013 MBA. My 2015 MBP gets around double, but in practice it feels around the same.
d) Dunno what VDH002 means. Some googling reveals it could be a hardware issue with the storage subsystem. Enjoy your 2014 upgraded laptop for now. It's 6 years old, could die any time.
Thanks! Glad everything is good. I was worried the pressure of the ssd pressing on the back cover could cause wear over time on the logic board's ssd socket's solder joints over repeated hot/cold cycles.
In regards to the error code, in disk utility I pulled up the info on the sabrent rocket ssd. It's said SMART status was "not supported". That in itself sounds like it would throw an error code, since the computer can't check the disk health. It also said "no" beside BOOTABLE and JOURNALED. That normal? Thanks again!!
I think my experiment with an NVMe drive is ending in tears. Sabrent Rocket 1TB on a 2015 retina MBP 13" with the good adapter.
At first everything was easy but the powerdrain was always there. Now over the last two weeks twice I had to restore from timemachine waking up to a black screen, boot drive no longer recognised.
Is that the 'hibernate' problem? I didn't think my model MBP should have that problem if it is. Hibernatemode 25.
But between that and the powerdrain I think I'll go back to my old harddrive. Not sure I can return the drive . I cant be 100% sure whether its a fault or just incompatibility.
At first everything was easy but the powerdrain was always there. Now over the last two weeks twice I had to restore from timemachine waking up to a black screen, boot drive no longer recognised.
Is that the 'hibernate' problem? I didn't think my model MBP should have that problem if it is. Hibernatemode 25.
But between that and the powerdrain I think I'll go back to my old harddrive. Not sure I can return the drive . I cant be 100% sure whether its a fault or just incompatibility.
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Hello everyone!
So I installed my Sabrent 1 tb drive into my 13 inch 2015 MacBook Pro yesterday. Just wanted to report the usage from one night and how my battery is holding up. At first it did not seem like there was much drainage happening. I put the MacBook to sleep at 100% and came back like 2.5 hours later and it was still at 100%.
So I started to use it. I began to play Minecraft for an hour and a half in which the MacBook got pretty hot and dropped to around 68%. Im not sure if that is normal for the MacBook and light gaming but I'm assuming it was a little more than normal. After that I used it for another 30 minutes and put it to sleep and got back on an hour later and used it for about 45 minutes. When I was done, it was at about 49%. I woke the laptop about 8 hours later and was at 42%. Is this a normal battery drainage for this model MacBook? I did command pmset -g log | grep -e " Sleep " -e " Wake " -e " DarkWake " and this is what it returned.
It seems to be doing a lot of darkwakes. Is there any way to avoid that? I havepowernap and all the general stuff disabled.
So I installed my Sabrent 1 tb drive into my 13 inch 2015 MacBook Pro yesterday. Just wanted to report the usage from one night and how my battery is holding up. At first it did not seem like there was much drainage happening. I put the MacBook to sleep at 100% and came back like 2.5 hours later and it was still at 100%.
So I started to use it. I began to play Minecraft for an hour and a half in which the MacBook got pretty hot and dropped to around 68%. Im not sure if that is normal for the MacBook and light gaming but I'm assuming it was a little more than normal. After that I used it for another 30 minutes and put it to sleep and got back on an hour later and used it for about 45 minutes. When I was done, it was at about 49%. I woke the laptop about 8 hours later and was at 42%. Is this a normal battery drainage for this model MacBook? I did command pmset -g log | grep -e " Sleep " -e " Wake " -e " DarkWake " and this is what it returned.
It seems to be doing a lot of darkwakes. Is there any way to avoid that? I havepowernap and all the general stuff disabled.
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Hi, those darkwakes are caused by find my Mac. Try to disable find my Mac and you should see some improvement. It happens even with the stock drive.
New find my Mac feature is very aggressive in trying to report back to Apple servers the location of your Mac. It is constantly checking for WiFi and nearby Bluetooth devices to give you the latest known location in case you Mac is lost.
Hi all! I have a mid 2014 mbp that I will be installing a 1tb Sabrent Rocket in this weekend.
I have been reading some mixed signals -- is it possible to softflash the BootRom to fix the hibernation issue with new updates/SilentKnight? If not, where is the best place to buy a J6100-SPI cable? They are ridiculously expensive, and am wondering if anyone has made their own? Has anyone heard of anyone doing the BootRom flash on linux successfully?
Thanks!! Will give updates as they come.
I have been reading some mixed signals -- is it possible to softflash the BootRom to fix the hibernation issue with new updates/SilentKnight? If not, where is the best place to buy a J6100-SPI cable? They are ridiculously expensive, and am wondering if anyone has made their own? Has anyone heard of anyone doing the BootRom flash on linux successfully?
Thanks!! Will give updates as they come.
Hey everyone,
So I have been researching how to manually upgrade the SSD in my 2015 MBA and I came across this post.
From what I originally gathered, going off of the post, since I have a 2015 MBA I could buy one of the tested SSDs with a sinetech adapter and I would be fine (no hibernation issues, no kernel panics, minimal increased power draws/temps, etc). But from reading through some of the comments this is not necessarily the case.
So from where I am standing I have two choices.
1. Save some money and buy an NVMe SSD with the adapter and hope for the best
OR
2. Spend more money, sacrifice having 1tb for something more like 480gb, and buy an OWC SSD that has the proprietary connector. (It looks like I would not have any issues with one of these?)
I fully accept that I may be misunderstanding something, but this is how it looks to me. For all I know the OWC SSDs also run the risk of kernel panics. I just want the least amount of hassle. Is this correct? Or am I missing something?
So I have been researching how to manually upgrade the SSD in my 2015 MBA and I came across this post.
From what I originally gathered, going off of the post, since I have a 2015 MBA I could buy one of the tested SSDs with a sinetech adapter and I would be fine (no hibernation issues, no kernel panics, minimal increased power draws/temps, etc). But from reading through some of the comments this is not necessarily the case.
So from where I am standing I have two choices.
1. Save some money and buy an NVMe SSD with the adapter and hope for the best
OR
2. Spend more money, sacrifice having 1tb for something more like 480gb, and buy an OWC SSD that has the proprietary connector. (It looks like I would not have any issues with one of these?)
I fully accept that I may be misunderstanding something, but this is how it looks to me. For all I know the OWC SSDs also run the risk of kernel panics. I just want the least amount of hassle. Is this correct? Or am I missing something?
This has been a really helpful thread and I think I've got my set up down. I have a Mid 2014 Mac Book Pro. I went with the Rocket 1TB TLC and this Syntech adapter. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FYY3H5F/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_QOEsEbHH14V9A
Will someone please verify that my understanding of the process is correct? I've read lots of this thread but not every page.
Backup and create OS boot drive.
Install SSD.
Boot from drive set up OS on internal etc.
Then once everything is running run the SUDO commands listed in the Wiki in this thread for hibernation. I assume this is still necessary?
After I run those commands can I just use the computer as normal (excluding bootcamp which I don't use) or do I need to change Power settings or anything else.
Will my computer still go to sleep etc?
Can my boot drive be Mojave? The original Wiki talks of High Sierra but I assume that's just what was available when written, or am I wrong and I need to make a High Sierra Boot and update from there?
Anything else I should be aware of?
Thanks for everyone's help!
Will someone please verify that my understanding of the process is correct? I've read lots of this thread but not every page.
Backup and create OS boot drive.
Install SSD.
Boot from drive set up OS on internal etc.
Then once everything is running run the SUDO commands listed in the Wiki in this thread for hibernation. I assume this is still necessary?
After I run those commands can I just use the computer as normal (excluding bootcamp which I don't use) or do I need to change Power settings or anything else.
Will my computer still go to sleep etc?
Can my boot drive be Mojave? The original Wiki talks of High Sierra but I assume that's just what was available when written, or am I wrong and I need to make a High Sierra Boot and update from there?
Anything else I should be aware of?
Thanks for everyone's help!
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Yes that's correct. Adaptor looks good. Sleep will work.
Some people find their machine shuts down if putting to sleep on less than 5% battery.
Mojave is fine. I just upgraded SSDs on two laptops that were running Mojave. I'll update the wiki in the first post.
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How about Catalina?
That is the OS I'm planing for my daughter on her early 15 MPA when switching the SSD to a NVMe.
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I am not sure if I am correct but I believe I did read somewhere that the OWC drives, although they have the propiertary connectors, since they are not official apple drives, they can still lead to some power draws and hibernation issues. Just wait until someone who is more certain does reply before you decide on anything.
Consider the OWC drive as an expensive way to achieve the same thing as Nvme+adapter, just that it comes in a single piece of hardware. It has the sames flaws, and you will have the sames sleep issues with 2013-14 macbooks and the same battery drain (I remember someone on the thread or Gilles that tested OWC drives and stated they were pretty good consumption wise, but not so good on the performance).
If you consider the upgrade and money is not a concern I would choose 2nd hand original Apple SSD over the OWC option.
OWC drives suffer from same problems as any other big third party drives brand (Corsair, Samsung, etc...) their drives are not fully optimized for macs because Apple NVME driver is only optimized for their own hardware. Do not expect better batt life than any good NVME mentioned in this forum + adapter.
As Gunmoule stated before if you want the best experience you better get a second hand apple drive, if you just want more storage with some drawbacks then adapter + a good drive is your choice.
I just installed the Sabrent Rocket 1TB with the Sintech adapter on a Mid 2014 MacBook Pro. I'm getting speeds a little slower than some seem to have been capable of. Is there anything I should change to get better results? It's also a little inconsistent and slows down a bit when I test it. Here's a screen shot and a pic of the drive I used.
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Trim should be enabled by default. You can check the settings in system report, nvme.