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olfo

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You are correct in saying that it (195.x.x) also available through Mojave and High Sierra security patch.

but am just explaining the easiest way to do so. Because it would be easier to install Catalina directly compared to installing Mojave or High Sierra and installing security patch after.

To get 195. , you dont even need to install Catalina to the Internal OEM SSD (if you wish to retain the data in that ssd, assuming you are borrowing it from someone). You can simply plug the OEM ssd inside the macbook. And install Catalina to other external drive plugged through USB. It will still update your BootRom, as long as it detect that there's OEM SSD inside the macbook.

If you are already in 195. , regardless your OS version, you can went up to Monterey directly, even with 3rd party ssd.
Useful tips really. Just for completeness – these procedures also work with High Sierra and Mojave.

While a new OS offers advantages in security, some people may have good reasons to want the 32-bit compatibility of the older OSes.
 

herb2k

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Does anyone know if there’s any complications with transferring the data from the old drie via an enclosure if the data was encrypted with FileVault? Also curious if anyone has a specific enclosure they can recommend.
Will not be any issues with FileVault.
 
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splifingate

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I wouldn't put it past Apple to have the Monterey upgrade process depend on the presence...

{possibly out of intended context}

The OTA Update (over BS) to Monterey 12.1 was painless, seamless and quickly accomplished on the Sabrent (DBlue) Rocket in my 2015 MBP

Achieved the same results in my MP 5,1 on an Inland Premium (essen. the same as the Rocket) via OC.

Apart from finagglin-with OC plist's (and stuff), I've noticed absolutely no difference in usability between the two ;)
 

kvic

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I am interested to do so, despite the mentioned lack of warranty. But do the SSDs nowadays still require the firmware update in Windows?
From the posts here I have learned that from firmware 41062C20 the Hynix P31 works out of the box.
Anybody know if this is the the standard firmware now?
Is there a way to get this info from the production date or serial number or any other info on the retail box?

The new 2TB version should come with Mac compatible firmware already. Amazon US is currently OOS the whole line-up. So by the time new shipments put on shelf, I would be surprised they aren't already on Mac compatible firmware. In the rare event it doesn't, you could prepare a Windows To Go thumb-drive and do the update. Perhaps it's extra hassle but I don't believe it'll be difficult for you.

Currently I only see P31 available from Amazon JP for about USD115 plus shipping. This option perhaps not for everyone but those in the Asia Pacific region.

Btw, in the era of global B2C, reputable goods sold are under warranty in the domicile of its designated market. There is warranty. If you choose to buy cross-border, whether you will exercise the warranty or not when there is need, it's a personal choice after weighing in cost-benefit analysis. But they do come with warranty.
 

EugW

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Out of interest's sake, does anyone know if there were any OS upgrade issues with these drives on the 2014 Mac mini? I didn't see it mentioned in the Mac mini forum. I wouldn't know since I had already upgraded macOS on the the hard drive (which was really painful) before installing the SSD.
 

Bladiko

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I don't know if anyone else has experienced this. I don't even know if its a drive issue or its a macOS issue. So ever since i switched to the SK Hynix P31 Gold, I updated to the latest 12.1 and a noticed that when the machine loads, at the login screen theres a tad bit lag before the password entry cursor is activated (blinking) then also once the machine loads bluetooth takes a moment to setup. I'd seen it here (or in another forum) that there are guys who have had issues of macbooks not sleeping due to bluetooth connected devices. I have an MX Master 2S Mouse which sometimes takes upto 3min to reconnect from sleep or even from a complete boot up. I've tried resetting the bluetooth module several times but it still persists. Once again i don't know if this is an NVMe thing or its macOS being macOS. Any insights are appreciated.
 

xanderx007

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I don't know if anyone else has experienced this. I don't even know if its a drive issue or its a macOS issue. So ever since i switched to the SK Hynix P31 Gold, I updated to the latest 12.1 and a noticed that when the machine loads, at the login screen theres a tad bit lag before the password entry cursor is activated (blinking) then also once the machine loads bluetooth takes a moment to setup. I'd seen it here (or in another forum) that there are guys who have had issues of macbooks not sleeping due to bluetooth connected devices. I have an MX Master 2S Mouse which sometimes takes upto 3min to reconnect from sleep or even from a complete boot up. I've tried resetting the bluetooth module several times but it still persists. Once again i don't know if this is an NVMe thing or its macOS being macOS. Any insights are appreciated.
It's most probably the upgrade to Monterey.
 

deepblonde

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what would be the consensus of the best drive?
Intel 660p ?
Or Crucial p2?

for best reliability and low power consumption?
Or a WD SN750 better overall?
I’m intending on installing on A1466 MacBook Air so I’ll be limited to about 1400 read/write regardless.
any thoughts or comments appreciated.
 

otosan

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I don't know if anyone else has experienced this. I don't even know if its a drive issue or its a macOS issue. So ever since i switched to the SK Hynix P31 Gold, I updated to the latest 12.1 and a noticed that when the machine loads, at the login screen theres a tad bit lag before the password entry cursor is activated (blinking) then also once the machine loads bluetooth takes a moment to setup. I'd seen it here (or in another forum) that there are guys who have had issues of macbooks not sleeping due to bluetooth connected devices. I have an MX Master 2S Mouse which sometimes takes upto 3min to reconnect from sleep or even from a complete boot up. I've tried resetting the bluetooth module several times but it still persists. Once again i don't know if this is an NVMe thing or its macOS being macOS. Any insights are appreciated.
Try to do this from terminal :

sudo kextcache -i /

shutdown, and power it back on
 
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otosan

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what would be the consensus of the best drive?
Intel 660p ?
Or Crucial p2?

for best reliability and low power consumption?
Or a WD SN750 better overall?
I’m intending on installing on A1466 MacBook Air so I’ll be limited to about 1400 read/write regardless.
any thoughts or comments appreciated.
Intel is safe choice in term of compatibility - it can sleep out of the box. But not so in term of durability since it's QLC. Same goes with P2.

WD is bad choice for power consumption.

If it were between those 3. I'll pick Intel. Especially if it just for an A1466.
 

deepblonde

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Intel is safe choice in term of compatibility - it can sleep out of the box. But not so in term of durability since it's QLC. Same goes with P2.

WD is bad choice for power consumption.

If it were between those 3. I'll pick Intel. Especially if it just for an A1466.
Ok, what about Kingston A2000? They seem to have been replaced with SNVS/2000G . Is that a better option?
I’m thinking of 2TB version.
 

deepblonde

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Hello Everybody,
Yesterday I put a Corsair MP510 960GB in a MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Late 2013). Using the USB bootstick I formated the drive to HFS+ with the Disk Utilities. I installed High Sierra via USB bootstick with the --converttoapfs NO option and restored from a time machine backup.
Boot ROM Version is 149.0.0.0.0 as I had installed the current version of Mojave on the original SSD beforehand.

As I was curious to see how much battery the MP510 would drain overnight I did not change anything on hibernatemode, standby or autopoweroff settings, and left the machine with 100% battery yesterday evening (just closed the lid).

8h later (this morning) I opened the lid, OSX was there instantaneous and the battery still showed 100%.

I had expected more battery drain. Is this due to the battery not being exactly measured at 100%?
Just wondering how MP510 has been holding up in your MacBook Pro?
Any issues?
 

deepblonde

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deepblonde

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I’m now thinking that either the Kingston A2000 or Corsair MP510 is probably the best all round compromise. Both low power consumption; both good longevity? Both are TLC ?
 

EugW

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Although QLC has reduced longevity than TLC or MLC, I think the QLC drives will outlive their usefulness before the drive dies.
I bought a 2015 MacBook Pro with OEM 128 GB SSD in November, manufactured in 2016. It only had 4.4 TB written on it.
I bought a 2017 MacBook Air with OEM 128 GB SSD in December. It was a refurb bought in 2019 although I don't know when it was manufactured. It only had 9 TB written on it.

At this rate of writes, that first drive would last over a century! :p
 

herb2k

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I don't know if anyone else has experienced this. I don't even know if its a drive issue or its a macOS issue. So ever since i switched to the SK Hynix P31 Gold, I updated to the latest 12.1 and a noticed that when the machine loads, at the login screen theres a tad bit lag before the password entry cursor is activated (blinking) then also once the machine loads bluetooth takes a moment to setup. I'd seen it here (or in another forum) that there are guys who have had issues of macbooks not sleeping due to bluetooth connected devices. I have an MX Master 2S Mouse which sometimes takes upto 3min to reconnect from sleep or even from a complete boot up. I've tried resetting the bluetooth module several times but it still persists. Once again i don't know if this is an NVMe thing or its macOS being macOS. Any insights are appreciated.

I have noticed this with both Big Sur and Monterey. I don't think it is anything to do with the SSD change.

You can try the typical clearing of the NVRAM/PRAM and SMC Reset steps on Apple's Website. I do know Apple stores some Bluetooth pairing details in the NVRAM/PRAM.
 
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EugW

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I have noticed this with both Big Sur and Monterey. I don't think it is anything to do with the SSD change.
I have noticed this on stock machines in Monterey 12.1. However, on my machines if you just start typing in your password, it works.
 
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olshevski

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I've upgraded my mid-2014 Macbook Pro 13 with 970 EVO Plus and it seems to be working fine with Mac OS Big Sur. But I need to install Windows on this machine and that's where all the issues begin. I've installed Windows 10 ignoring the error during the installation as in all the instructions. I've installed Bootcamp drivers as usual and hoped for the best.

But it simply unstable as hell. Windows freezes as soon as I unplug power cable. I've trying installing Samsung SSD drivers, updated chipset drivers, installed all updates in windows, updated bandcamp, but still nothing.

I'm not sure what is causing issues and where to start. Does anyone even have working Windows 10 with the same 970 EVO Plus SSD?

Any ideas and/or suggestions?
 

herb2k

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I've upgraded my mid-2014 Macbook Pro 13 with 970 EVO Plus and it seems to be working fine with Mac OS Big Sur. But I need to install Windows on this machine and that's where all the issues begin. I've installed Windows 10 ignoring the error during the installation as in all the instructions. I've installed Bootcamp drivers as usual and hoped for the best.

But it simply unstable as hell. Windows freezes as soon as I unplug power cable. I've trying installing Samsung SSD drivers, updated chipset drivers, installed all updates in windows, updated bandcamp, but still nothing.

I'm not sure what is causing issues and where to start. Does anyone even have working Windows 10 with the same 970 EVO Plus SSD?

Any ideas and/or suggestions?
Post #1 has a whole bunch of steps to follow if you run into issues with Bootcamp.
 

EugW

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My Hack runs a SN750 2TB now - flawlessly (don't use any NVMe related kexts though...!!)
What is the machine?

Anyhow, I personally wouldn't worry as much about running a third party SSD on a hackintosh, because it's already a hackintosh. The issue for me is with true Macs, because when you add third party hardware you're sometimes kinda turning a Mac into a hackintosh, so to speak.

With my 2014 Mac mini, adding an SN550 has been pain free as I didn't run into firmware issues, and an extra Watt of power consumption is a non-issue so power management kexts are not necessary. But things get a little more involved in Mac laptops of course.
 
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Bladiko

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Try to do this from terminal :

sudo kextcache -i /

shutdown, and power it back on
this is the return i got after runnin the command;

Executing: /usr/bin/kmutil install --volume-root / --check-rebuild
rebuilding local auxiliary collection
kmutil done

rebooting now to see if there's any change.

Edit 1:

It appears to have solved the password lag, and bluetooth activation. I'll keep monitoring it for some hours. I noticed that when I open the bluetooth module, the MX Master 2S pointer really stutters and at times the process pointed in the screenshot hangs.

Screenshot 2022-01-18 at 06.23.31.png
 
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xanderx007

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this is the return i got after runnin the command;

Executing: /usr/bin/kmutil install --volume-root / --check-rebuild
rebuilding local auxiliary collection
kmutil done

rebooting now to see if there's any change.

Edit 1:

It appears to have solved the password lag, and bluetooth activation. I'll keep monitoring it for some hours. I noticed that when I open the bluetooth module, the MX Master 2S pointer really stutters and at times the process pointed in the screenshot hangs.

View attachment 1945913

Again, if your Mac/peripherals were okay pre-Monterey, it's most probably the Monterey upgrade.
 
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