Everything is working great. Look like the initial heat issues was because of initial caching. I also have not noticed any significant battery losses as well.
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Upgrading 2013-2015 Macbook Pro SSD to M.2 NVMe
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No I just did with a latest high sierra bootable usb and the ssd was detected with no issues. I was worried I may need all that. It looks like latest high sierra does not need all that.Did you the bootrom flashing thing? I am very interessted
Awesome!
Can you elaborate on the 'initial caching' you speak of?
Curious if there is a way, on a 2015 MacBook Pro Retina 15" with the newest High Sierra, to also not have any heat or battery drainage issues if going with a Samsung 960/970. Furthermore, with OS Mojave just around the corner, will this affect any of these NVME SSD upgrade quirks in any way, for better or for worse?
These aren't 'issues' ; its just the design of the NVMe. Samsung Evo 970 requires more power; and may also run hotter as a result. I struggle to get more than 2-3hours of battery life on mine now; I'm just getting some documentation together on doing the firmware update to get hibernation working correctly and then will see if I stick to the EVO or move to an Intel 760p for example.
Initially when I restored my mac from a time machine after a apfs format in a new ssd(in my case intel 660p) looks like there was a high cpu usage and fans were loud as well as I could feel the heat which made me worried probably it is because of a new non apple ssd. But turns out it was just the mac caching for the first time which uses lot of cpu power which I learned from other fellow members. But right now I do not have any issues. I do not see any difference when I had original ssd vs this one. I did hear lot about the heating issues on samsung 960/970 so I tried out this intel ssd which was way cheaper comparing with samsung. About the mojave update I have no clue what is gonna happen. My guess though probably newer macs will have nvme ssd I am thinking apple will still allow these kind of upgrades just my opinion.
Why did you go for the Intel 660p rather than the 760p?
Also, where did you buy the 660? and what capacity? what price?
EDIT: I just checked earlier in the thread and saw that you bought it on Newegg for $99 and it's 512GB. But my other question remains!
I am deciding between the 660p and the 760p still.
Comparing the 660p and 760p here:
https://www.intel.com/content/www/u....html/memory-storage?productIds=149405,134582
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Newer TouchBar MacBook Pros (2016 and up) have NVMe SSDs, but their SSDs are part of the logic board and it will be impossible to use off the shelf components to upgrade them.
Hi all,
I swapped out the 960 EVO from my MBP 15" 2015 with the newer 970 EVO and it seems faster than the old.
With the 960 Evo I used to have some video lags that disappeared with 970 EVO.
The only downside is the battery life... The battery lasts only 3/4 hours!
Which SSD is better for battery life? Intel or WD Black?
I swapped out the 960 EVO from my MBP 15" 2015 with the newer 970 EVO and it seems faster than the old.
With the 960 Evo I used to have some video lags that disappeared with 970 EVO.
The only downside is the battery life... The battery lasts only 3/4 hours!
Which SSD is better for battery life? Intel or WD Black?
[QUOTE = "monofase, post: 26390659, miembro: 1096497"] Hola a todos,
Cambié el 960 EVO de mi MBP 15 "2015 con el nuevo 970 EVO y parece más rápido que el anterior.
Con el 960 Evo solía tener algunos retrasos de video que desaparecieron con 970 EVO.
El único inconveniente es la duración de la batería ... ¡La batería dura solo 3/4 horas!
¿Qué SSD es mejor para la duración de la batería? Intel o WD Black? [/ QUOTE]
Se habla mucho de tener una buena relación de precio, rendimiento pero sobre todo de bateria con el ADATA SX8200, yo estoy esperando a recibierlo y confio que irá bien, una segunda opcion seria el WD Black (2018)
Cambié el 960 EVO de mi MBP 15 "2015 con el nuevo 970 EVO y parece más rápido que el anterior.
Con el 960 Evo solía tener algunos retrasos de video que desaparecieron con 970 EVO.
El único inconveniente es la duración de la batería ... ¡La batería dura solo 3/4 horas!
¿Qué SSD es mejor para la duración de la batería? Intel o WD Black? [/ QUOTE]
Se habla mucho de tener una buena relación de precio, rendimiento pero sobre todo de bateria con el ADATA SX8200, yo estoy esperando a recibierlo y confio que irá bien, una segunda opcion seria el WD Black (2018)
The Intel 760p drives are meant to be good on battery as well I've got a 500GB 970 EVO; whilst the performance is great (well on PCIe2 x4) the battery life is like yourself; around 3hrs.
My Apple SSD was doing around 0.14A; this is hitting 0.5A hence the subsequent decrease in battery life.
I've got a 500GB 970 EVO; whilst the performance is great (well on PCIe2 x4) the battery life is like yourself; around 3hrs.My Apple SSD was doing around 0.14A; this is hitting 0.5A hence the subsequent decrease in battery life.
Hi all,
Thanks for all your research, I've used Cmd+Q's guide to upgrade my Mac. I have an issue with sleep, hope somebody can help!
Summary:
Sometimes when sleeping, my MBP becomes warm when sleeping for longer while. Using a power meter I noticed real sleep would consume ±2W, but when I'd check again the next day it was using ±30W (wall socket), apparently in a somewhat more woken state. iStat also notices that during proper sleep power is 0 (or N/A), but my Mac wakes itself and starts consuming power and warming up (see attachments). Does anyone else have this problem, or better: a solution? --> now solved by turning off power nap
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TL;DR: Samsung NVMe SSD works on MBP 15" late 2013, but Mac wakes from sleep sometimes.
Thanks for all your research, I've used Cmd+Q's guide to upgrade my Mac. I have an issue with sleep, hope somebody can help!
Summary:
- Laptop: MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Late 2013) = MacBookPro11,3 = A1398 (wiki spec)
- SSD: NVME Samsung PM961 1TB (second hand, from existing laptop(?)) (AnandTech review TomsHardware review)
- SSD Adapter: Sintech NGFF M.2 PCIe 2280 SSD-Karte, Ersatz für SSD MZ-JPU128T SD6PQ4M-128G des 2013 2014 2015 MacBook
- OS: macOS 10.13.6 (17G65) High Sierra, fresh copy of macOS directly via internet installer
- Hibernation fix (as per Cmd+Q's guide): sudo pmset -a standby 0 hibernatemode 0 autopoweroff 0 + turn off Power Nap (as per Trunkz' suggestion)
- Overall: Everything works nominally: no crashes, resume from sleep OK
- Power: usage seems high, 500mA at light workloads
- Speed: seems reasonable for low-cost SSD: Write: 488 MB/sec @ 256k blocks, Read: 884 MB/sec @ 256k blocks (using xbench, BlackMagic does not work)
- Sleep:
not working properly, see below-- regular sleep is now working properly
Attached:
- iStat measurements during what should be sleep
- SSD current
- system power
- battery temperature
- xbench output
- pmset -g output
- pmset -g pslog output
TL;DR: Samsung NVMe SSD works on MBP 15" late 2013
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Yes, Power Nap is enabled, so I expect it to wake every now and then briefly.
However, as you can see from the graphs (temperature and power use), the laptop doesn't (always) go back to sleep.
However, as you can see from the graphs (temperature and power use), the laptop doesn't (always) go back to sleep.
Thanks, I indeed read about this. However, I understood that disabling hibernation/sleep (running sudo pmset -a standby 0 hibernatemode 0 autopoweroff) would mitigate this issue. While this does solve the crash-issue, it apparently (for me) still hampers proper laptop sleep, sometimes. Any ideas why this works intermittently? Thanks!
I understand that I hibernate will not work, but I still expected normal sleep to function. However from the temperature/power graphs I posted, it seems the laptop sometimes goes to sleep (no power usage or temperature reported, ±2-3W wall socket usage = good), but then wakes again and has power draw similar to idling (±30W wall socket usage = bad). I wonder why it wakes from sleep while I'm not doing anything.
You said you have power nap enabled? Disable that and see if you still experience the ~30w power draw.
hi. any news with data 8200 and intel 760?
I would like to know if it is possible to installa Sierra 10.12.6 there
You need High Sierra 10.13 to use third party NVMe SSDs like Intel and Adata.
Additionally, I'd like to know any updates about those two as well from gilles_polysoft.
Hi. I REALLY need help. So, I got a Macbook Pro 2015 13inch, and the ssd just died. I had a Intel 760p 128gb here, so I bought the black sintech adapter to use it, instead of buying a whole new ssd. But I can't get it to work. It won't show up on my MacOS installed on a external ssd or on ubuntu. I think it's because I don't have 10.13 firmware installed on it. Is there any way to update the firmware without a original apple ssd? Will the firmware update if I install MacOS again to the external ssd? It's really urgent, as I need the laptop to work! thanks!+
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- MacOS not showing the ssd
- Ubuntu not showing the ssd
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- MacOS not showing the ssd
- Ubuntu not showing the ssd
You need to update the firmware using an internal apple SSD. Don't think there is any other way to do it. Maybe the apple store can help you update the firmware using their own ssd?