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Users Facing 'Error 53' Bricking Message After Third-Party iPhone 6 Home Button Repairs
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Confused. What story did you read where the parts were crap? According to the story I read the phone worked fine after being repaired. It only bricked when it got updated to the latest version of iOS. Absent any evidence to the contrary, if the guy hadn't updated to the latest version of iOS his phone could still be working.
So Apple deliberately bricks the home button with Touch ID if it's not repaired legitimately and people are mad and blame Apple, saying they shouldn't be doing this.
But what if Apple doesn't do this sort of thing, but then all of the sudden someone finds a way to break the security and compromise the phone because this wasn't done? Are people going to get angry at Apple and blame them, saying they should have made better security?
Yes. Yes they would.
Either way, Apple loses. Apple may as well keep doing this.
Personally, I think the only way for Apple to not do this is if people start removing liability to Apple if Touch ID gets compromised at some point after the repair. But since Apple is trying to make their stance in security and everyone is holding on to them on that, they can't do that.
That's Apple's fault and they shouldn't be so iron-fisted about it, but this is where they want to be and that means they're going to do whatever it takes to do so (even if it means blocking devices if things seem like they can be compromised).
But what if Apple doesn't do this sort of thing, but then all of the sudden someone finds a way to break the security and compromise the phone because this wasn't done? Are people going to get angry at Apple and blame them, saying they should have made better security?
Yes. Yes they would.
Either way, Apple loses. Apple may as well keep doing this.
Personally, I think the only way for Apple to not do this is if people start removing liability to Apple if Touch ID gets compromised at some point after the repair. But since Apple is trying to make their stance in security and everyone is holding on to them on that, they can't do that.
That's Apple's fault and they shouldn't be so iron-fisted about it, but this is where they want to be and that means they're going to do whatever it takes to do so (even if it means blocking devices if things seem like they can be compromised).
"Sir, we flashed a calibration update onto your car's engine control module. It detected a third party clutch disc, and your car is now bricked and can't be repaired, even by putting in a GM clutch. We can exchange your car for $18,000."
"WHAT????"'
"Yes, sir, that's a very reasonable price. A new car from GM would cost $24,000."
"That's OUTRAGEROUS! They killed my car!"
"Well, sir, it's GM's car, not yours. Doesn't matter if you bought it. They can do whatever they want. It's for your own good."
First, if you RTFA, Apple says there is no hardware or software fix for the error 53. So, no, an Apple repair center cannot restore the phone.
Second, it makes zero sense from a security standpoint to brick the phone. Wiping all user date from the phone makes sense. Permanently destroying the phone makes zero sense, and I look forward to the class-action lawsuits.
Wrong analogy, bud. If you replace the fob receiver from a shady garage, it can most certainly stop the car from being usable.Well if I replace the door locking system on my car, and get it done at a non-honda garage, it doesn't stop the car from being usable..... so No, you're not
The level of apple fandom on this thread has reached new levels!
New OS bricks the phone with no warning! Only option is to buy a new one. Why not just disable touch id? Because apple wants to control who repairs your phone.
How would you like it if you could only grt your car repaired at a dealership? (Car manufacturer aren't allowed by law to lock out after market parts)
People, you paid good money for that phone to own it, not to rent it!
New OS bricks the phone with no warning! Only option is to buy a new one. Why not just disable touch id? Because apple wants to control who repairs your phone.
How would you like it if you could only grt your car repaired at a dealership? (Car manufacturer aren't allowed by law to lock out after market parts)
People, you paid good money for that phone to own it, not to rent it!
It is just sad that there are people who think more obstacles to servicing a device are good for the consumer.
This is good for Apple's bank account. Bad for Apple's reputation and brand value. A disaster for the consumer.
What makes you think that I work for Samsung? Because Touch ID started since iOS 7. The guy in the article said it works perfectly prior updating to iOS 9. So maybe you work for Apple do you have an answer for that?
Except that you can get a new keyfob if it doesn't work from Honda and drive your car, you are not forced to buy a whole new car!
Because THIS issue involves OUR FINGERPRINT and Apple MUST safeguard that vault ANY WAY THEY HAVE TO.
The people complaining that Apple is being CONSPIRATORY about this issue would be the VERY same people lining up lawyers to SUE them for being too lax safeguarding us..if they didn't take extraordinary measures to protect us.
Any breach of Touch ID will destroy the faith in their products.
As a stockholder and a longtime Apple client this policy while disruptive is a NO ALTERNATIVE situation.
Maybe I'm in the minority but personally this situation is a wake up to me that I personally would now be leery of these "pop up shops" that seem to have grown like cancer in every market around the world.
Admit it. Nearly all of us would only entertain visiting these stores in order to save money. Apple is saying you can visit them but we will protect you and your most trusted data and block your device.
Makes perfect sense no matter how butt hurt some are.
Absolutely. And, when assessing repair options, one must accept the potential adverse consequences of not having Apple perform the repair. Your responsibility.
Every car, people leave documents with private and extremely important personal info lying on the floor of their car all the time. Now imagine a car that doesn't work if you get the locks fixed by a local mechanic.
FYI: The new Bentley's basically have a smartphone built in. So even if you mean digital only, cars can store info.
Apple bricked the phone on purpose. In what way should they not be held responsible? If Timmy breaks into your house in the night and smashes the phone with a hammer, should he not be held responsible because you had it repaired without Apple getting a cut?
If the third party repair causes the problem, it's not Apple's fault. This is 100% Apple's fault.
You know, sometimes security features are rolled out in... um... OS updates.... You know, like patches, when they realize they need to make it more secure... I know, I know, this is totally an Apple thing and no one updates or patches their software after the fact...
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Is this Apple fandom too?
http://money.cnn.com/2016/02/05/technology/usb-c-cords/index.html?linkId=21016541
That is correct. Not for the outside locks, but for the start-interruption system. The key must contain a specific NFC-chip, which is nog cheap and the key and car must be paired with specific software and a pin-code. Just like this case where a replacement home button and the iPhone must me paired using specific software, only available to authorized repair shops.
Who cares what was.. Talk about what is. Clearly in fact very clearly security was IMPROVED in iOS 9. Apple Pay btw came to be in iOS 8.
I want my data safe TODAY. Apple must make these devices as fail proof as they can.
I'm glad they are serious even if it means pissing off a percentage of customers that seek unauthorized repair centers to fix their devices.
There is not one of these so called after market iphone repair centers here in Los Angeles that don't feel sketchy at best when entering them. All of them. Heck even the lame "geek squad" centers in Best Buy stores have been caught stealing customers data.
Why shouldn't Apple protect themselves from the potential for tampering with a proprietary feature on their devices that could ultimately HARM US???
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Hi, rocket science - They would risk the chance that someone did not double password protect sensitive data so it's more secure to brick the phone when the OS gets a flag that "security enclave" has a non-certified piece of equipment... This is basic practice in security.
People, really just buy a Nokia soap bar phone or Samsung (which doesn't do this kind of thing and can be repaired with cheap Chinese parts at your own risk) and move on...
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I have fixed quite a few phones (kind of a hobby). If your fingerprint sensor rips off for whatever reason (it happens quite a bit), you can use a third party home button as a replacement. BUT TOUCH ID NO LONGER WORKS. Because the finger print sensor is tied to that specific motherboard.
So, there is no way to access data preserved on the phone, it has to be wiped, but the phone still works, just without touch ID. It basically turns it into an iPhone 5. Which for many people is an acceptable alternative to paying apple to fix it.
So, there is no way to access data preserved on the phone, it has to be wiped, but the phone still works, just without touch ID. It basically turns it into an iPhone 5. Which for many people is an acceptable alternative to paying apple to fix it.
I think 'void the warranty' and 'turns your phone into a paperweight' are not necessarily the same thing!