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markgamber

macrumors 6502
Jul 2, 2005
451
0
Redneck, PA
I don't see what all the hype is about. When I bought my iphone I wanted to make sure I could listen to my Sirius sub. I've had my iphone (switched from a winmo6 phone) since August 08, and have been able to listen all this time.

Using usirius and orb. I would have never purchased the iphone if I couldn't do it.

http://uneasysilence.com/archive/2008/01/12823/

Yep, this is what I do for Sirius on the iPhone also. But I have a Sirius app for my WinMo phone and it does have the advantage that you don't need a home server that requires, for all practical intents and purposes, a PC. Of course, this might all be an exercise in futility if Sirius goes under which could happen at any moment.
 

drichards

macrumors 6502a
Nov 30, 2008
803
0
Yep, this is what I do for Sirius on the iPhone also. But I have a Sirius app for my WinMo phone and it does have the advantage that you don't need a home server that requires, for all practical intents and purposes, a PC. Of course, this might all be an exercise in futility if Sirius goes under which could happen at any moment.

Bankruptcy does not mean a close of business, and they haven't filed. There's 20 million or so subscribers that somebody would love to pick up for the cost of SIRI's debt, and the company can be restructured into a profit making enterprise in the right hands.

DirecTV was hemmoraging not so long ago themselves, when GM dumped them off. Look at them now. Its not so different.
 

pieomy

macrumors newbie
Nov 11, 2008
12
0
Bankruptcy does not mean a close of business, and they haven't filed. There's 20 million or so subscribers that somebody would love to pick up for the cost of SIRI's debt, and the company can be restructured into a profit making enterprise in the right hands.

DirecTV was hemmoraging not so long ago themselves, when GM dumped them off. Look at them now. Its not so different.


Truth said! Everyone here keeps saying bankruptcy and they act like an hour later Sirius goes off the air, it is so funny. Youre talking about a company with a, what, 20+ million subscriber base, please, for those with the scott the engineer black cloud pending doom, yada yada yada. More often then not, this thread was filled with such rubbish, lol everyone including myself acts like they know something, when we're all just reading newspapers, lol...
 

richmonddjs

macrumors member
Feb 13, 2009
57
0
Richmond, Va.
Yep, this is what I do for Sirius on the iPhone also. But I have a Sirius app for my WinMo phone and it does have the advantage that you don't need a home server that requires, for all practical intents and purposes, a PC. Of course, this might all be an exercise in futility if Sirius goes under which could happen at any moment.

I forgot to mention I had usirius on my winmo6 phone too (htc touch), but I wanted a phone I didn't have to reboot 3-5 times a day..... Which is why I switched to the iPhone.
 

MaxPower49

macrumors 6502a
Sep 11, 2008
654
3
Not sure how accurate this is, but I have heard that the 20 million subscriber number is largely exaggerated. I think they count free trial subscriptions that are given to people who buy a car with Sirius built in. Unfortunately, a lot of those people don't end up renewing their subscription after the free trial runs out. There was also talk one time that they were even including the unsold cars still sitting on dealers lots in their "subscriber" numbers. The actual number of paying subscribers may be significantly less than 20 million.

I've been a subscriber for 5 years not, so I hope they get something worked out. No way I can go back to FM... I'll have to find a bunch of podcasts or something to entertain me if Sirius goes under.
 

MadDog31

macrumors 6502a
May 20, 2007
668
240
I thought I recalled that back in the days when the two were separate companies, XM counted actual subscriptions and Sirius counted actual subscriptions PLUS any and all cars that had Sirius radios installed, whether they were being driven or sitting on a showroom floor.

Anyone care to verify this? I'm too lazy...
 

aandf1978

macrumors member
Apr 4, 2008
78
0
I think that it is evident that Apple will not be approving this app any time soon for one reason or another. If you have been watching the app store there have been numerous new applications that have been place into the app store only to have updates, sometimes multiple, come out for the app 2-3 times that week. Not sure why they would be so hesitant to release it, but I am fully convinced that if this was a different kind of application it would have been approved already, something is not right here.
 

Randman

macrumors 65816
Jul 28, 2008
1,329
9
Jacksonville, Fla
I think that it is evident that Apple will not be approving this app any time soon for one reason or another. If you have been watching the app store there have been numerous new applications that have been place into the app store only to have updates, sometimes multiple, come out for the app 2-3 times that week. Not sure why they would be so hesitant to release it, but I am fully convinced that if this was a different kind of application it would have been approved already, something is not right here.

Paranoid much?
 

bbotte

macrumors 65816
Feb 11, 2008
1,204
27
USA
I think that it is evident that Apple will not be approving this app any time soon for one reason or another. If you have been watching the app store there have been numerous new applications that have been place into the app store only to have updates, sometimes multiple, come out for the app 2-3 times that week. Not sure why they would be so hesitant to release it, but I am fully convinced that if this was a different kind of application it would have been approved already, something is not right here.


Again, apple is not going to release a 12.99 dollar app that might not work here in the short future. They are waiting to see what happens with Sirius/XM in the coming weeks. You know how many fanboys would be demanding their 12.99 back if they go under? I mean fan boys complain if there is a spec of dust under a screen. Apple knows it's customers and is not foolish. They will wait this one out.
 

bigrobb

macrumors 6502a
Mar 11, 2008
536
12
Tennessee
I have quit looking for it I figure if and when it is approved somebody will post it here I actually wouldnt be surprised at this point if apple rejects it. If they do approve it I am starting to think it will be well into March when it happens.
 

todd2000

macrumors 68000
Nov 14, 2005
1,626
11
Danville, VA
I don't see what all the hype is about. When I bought my iphone I wanted to make sure I could listen to my Sirius sub. I've had my iphone (switched from a winmo6 phone) since August 08, and have been able to listen all this time.

Using usirius and orb. I would have never purchased the iphone if I couldn't do it.

http://uneasysilence.com/archive/2008/01/12823/

Umm lets see?

1. Not everyone has a jailbroken iPhone, with Firmware 1.1.4.

2. Not everyone has a PC hanging around that they can keep on 24/7 as a server.

So thats what all the hype is about.
 

markgamber

macrumors 6502
Jul 2, 2005
451
0
Redneck, PA
I forgot to mention I had usirius on my winmo6 phone too (htc touch), but I wanted a phone I didn't have to reboot 3-5 times a day..... Which is why I switched to the iPhone.

Uh....am I supposed to care? I have a Blackberry too. Holy sh*t, three phones and only ONE is an iPhone. Christ, why haven't you lynched me yet?

Oh, and yes, I realize that Sirius going under doesn't mean they disappear but thank you for all the condescending sarcasm. Again. As usual. I'll be sure to tell all my Mac totin' friends to come here when they have any questions about language or syntax or if they need to call someone a douchebag and can't quite find the right words.
 

SwingOnThis

macrumors regular
Apr 23, 2008
120
7
Looks like Sirius has been able to stave off bankruptcy for the time being at least. If that was really what was holding up the Apple approval of the Starplayr, it should no longer be an issue...

Liberty to Acquire SIRIUS XM Preferred Stock and Board Representation in Connection with Investments

NEW YORK and ENGLEWOOD, Colo., Feb. 17 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Sirius XM Radio Inc. (Nasdaq: SIRI) and Liberty Media Corporation (Nasdaq: LINTA, LINTB, LCAPA, LCAPB, LMDIA, LMDIB) today announced that they have entered into agreements pursuant to which Liberty will invest an aggregate of $530 million in the form of loans to SIRIUS XM and its subsidiaries and receive an equity interest in SIRIUS XM.

(Logo: http://www.newscom.com/cgi-bin/prnh...819/NYTU044LOGO )

Under the terms of the agreements, the investments will be funded in two separate phases.

-- The first phase includes a $280 million senior secured loan from Liberty to SIRIUS XM, $250 million of which will be funded today. The proceeds of that loan will be used by SIRIUS XM to repay $171.6 million of its maturing 2 1/2% Convertible Notes due February 17, 2009, and the balance will be used for general corporate purposes, including working capital and transaction costs. The loan will bear interest at a rate of 15%, mature in December 2012, and be secured by the assets securing SIRIUS XM's existing term credit agreement.

-- The second phase provides an additional loan of $150 million to XM Satellite Radio, SIRIUS XM's wholly owned subsidiary. Liberty has also agreed to offer to purchase up to $100 million of the loans outstanding under XM Satellite Radio's existing credit facilities from the lenders.

Upon completion of the second phase of the Liberty investments, SIRIUS XM will issue Liberty an aggregate of 12.5 million shares of preferred stock convertible into 40% of the common stock of SIRIUS XM. In addition, Liberty will receive seats on the SIRIUS XM Board of Directors proportionate to its equity ownership. It is expected that John Malone and Greg Maffei will join the SIRIUS XM Board of Directors. Liberty's obligation to consummate the second phase of its investment is subject to various closing conditions.

Mel Karmazin, Chief Executive Officer of SIRIUS XM Radio, said, "We are pleased to have come to this agreement with Liberty Media, particularly in light of today's challenging credit markets. Liberty's investment is an important validation of what SIRIUS XM has already achieved and a vote of confidence in what we will achieve. This agreement enables Sirius XM to continue to develop the opportunities first outlined in the merger of Sirius and XM. By strengthening our capital structure and enhancing our financial flexibility, this investment allows us to continue providing the great content and innovative programming our subscribers know and love."

"We are excited to be investing in SIRIUS XM. We have been impressed with the company, its operations and management team," said Greg Maffei, president and CEO of Liberty. "SIRIUS XM's ability to grow subscribers and revenue in a difficult financial and auto market is indicative of how listeners view this as a "must have" service."

The agreements, and the transactions contemplated by the agreements, do not constitute a change in control for SIRIUS XM under its outstanding debt instruments and are not subject to the approval of the Federal Communications Commission. The receipt by Liberty of voting stock is subject to expiration of the applicable waiting period under the Hart-Scott-Rodino Act.

Important details of the agreements relating to this investment will be available on a Current Report on Form 8-K which SIRIUS XM expects to file with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

Liberty has advised that its investment will be attributed to the Liberty Capital group and is not expected to affect the timing of the previously announced split-off of a portion of Liberty Entertainment.
 

opticalserenity

macrumors 6502a
Apr 14, 2007
596
0
I was very happy to end my subscription to XM a few days ago. I specifically cited this app as part of the reason...Not only do they want more money, they have removed stations I liked. More talk, less music, not as good bit rate, higher rate, and they want to charge for this app? And, the online channel list isn't as good. Hrmph.

I have Pandora on my iphone. Much preferred.
 

JonHimself

macrumors 68000
Nov 3, 2004
1,553
5
Toronto, Ontario
I was very happy to end my subscription to XM a few days ago. I specifically cited this app as part of the reason...Not only do they want more money, they have removed stations I liked. More talk, less music, not as good bit rate, higher rate, and they want to charge for this app? And, the online channel list isn't as good. Hrmph.

I have Pandora on my iphone. Much preferred.

I'm just confused about why you cited this app and its price as a reason for canceling your subscription with Sirius XM?
 

Superman07

macrumors 6502a
Aug 28, 2007
704
2
I'm just confused about why you cited this app and its price as a reason for canceling your subscription with Sirius XM?

Agreed. I have a feeling that some people are under the impression that this application is a Sirius|XM product...I have no idea why somebody would think that, but perhaps that's just me.

Is XM charging additional for their online feed too? Was it ever free?
 

SwingOnThis

macrumors regular
Apr 23, 2008
120
7
I find it funny how when people cancel their Sirius/XM, they seem so angry about the entire concept of paying for radio, and they can't understand why others don't have a problem paying for it. They always seem really bitter, like jilted lovers. :rolleyes:
 

Goodeye

macrumors 6502a
Jan 30, 2009
824
382
No I think people are upset about paying MORE for something that for years has been free etc.
 

JonHimself

macrumors 68000
Nov 3, 2004
1,553
5
Toronto, Ontario
No I think people are upset about paying MORE for something that for years has been free etc.

Hopefully this doesn't turn into an argument about why satellite radio is different than regular radio and you're not paying for the equivalent of something else that is free but instead paying for what some (mostly those who do pay for it) consider a premium service (similar to television when it was free and people thought it was crazy to pay for cable) though I'm sure the discussion will head that way.

If they're already subscribers, wouldn't they have accepted that when they initially signed up anyway?
 

SwingOnThis

macrumors regular
Apr 23, 2008
120
7
If they're already subscribers, wouldn't they have accepted that when they initially signed up anyway?

Exactly. The level of bitterness is unreal. I've canceled services before because the price began to outweigh the benefits. But i don't recall being so snippy and angry about it.
 

Zman3001

macrumors member
Sep 30, 2008
64
1
Exactly. The level of bitterness is unreal. I've canceled services before because the price began to outweigh the benefits. But i don't recall being so snippy and angry about it.

I'm not yet ready to cancel, but I am close. Yes, the XM online used to be free, but now they are charging for it. That bothers me, but at least they are improving the quality of the streams. I still feel that this was the wrong time to increase online prices as I did have quite a few receivers and now in order to keep the online I will be canceling a few of those receivers. They can get my 2.99 a month but they are losing 6-8 dollars a month per radio that I am canceling, theres only so much you can have in this economy. The other concern I have is the amount of censorship they are putting on the programming. Some of the music on channels that shouldn't be censored is censored. On O&A, they are censoring the way they do their show, and many people signed up for this service to hear them completely uncensored. Back in '04 when they first came on the air, it was an extra 2 bucks a month, but they were completely commercial free and almost completely uncensored. Also, the DJ's talk wayyy too much on the music stations, it almost makes me want to turn the XM off and put on my iPod. Shut up and play the music! I don't care what you think about anything, i'm paying for commercial free and INTERRUPTION free music! This also now goes for the comedy station on 150 XM. This new douche "Mark Says Hi" (what the hell kind of a name is that??) talks way too much and is in no way funny. The corpse of George Carlin is a million times funnier than him, and he can't say anything! I prefer the comedy channels on AOL radio and the one on Slacker to the comedy channel on XM because they don't have a douche who thinks he is hilarious talking every 5 minutes. Also, what the hell is up with the constant radio ID's? I know what channel i'm listening to, its on the damn screen. Thats one of the reasons sat rad should be different from terrestrial, no need for radio id's because it's right there on the screen! If Howard Stern didn't require an outrageous contract for constantly taking vacation (he never works on Fridays and constantly takes off for weeks at a time), things might be better for Sirius XM and this bankruptcy scare might never have happened. Finally, get rid of Martha Stewart and Oprah; people watch them on TV and I doubt their respective audiences really listen to them on sat rad. Rant over.
 
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