I had the same Software Settings set and my up to date Ventura SSD which got updated today to Sonoma when I change my Start Up disk to my Sonoma SSD and selected Restart. For some reason Software Update thinks Download new updates when available is now Download upgrades. First time for me a macOS upgrade happened without my permission. Ouch what a PITA..
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Ventura magically updated to Sonoma 😱
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I agree. I'd like to know what is going on and how to prevent it in the future. Certainly more newsworthy than the endless Vision Pro articles.
Whoa! I'm glad I checked this thread because I just got the "Software Update Available" message. I went to System Settings:General:Software Update and found that Automatic Updates was magically turned On. I've never had it set On on any of my Macs, EVER!
Like many here, I never set my OS updates to auto-update. I was using the latest Ventura OS I updated to just a few days ago. Earlier today, I received my first Sonoma notification of update and I immediately dismissed it by clicking it off.
Eight hours later, I restarted my mac and it appeared to be taking longer than normal. The mac restarted several times changing screen resolutions several times. I was beginning to think the mac was having issues, but then about 5 mins. into the restart, I noticed the “9 minutes left” appeared at the very bottom of the screen. When it was finally done, I had Sonoma 14.2.1 installed.
Eight hours later, I restarted my mac and it appeared to be taking longer than normal. The mac restarted several times changing screen resolutions several times. I was beginning to think the mac was having issues, but then about 5 mins. into the restart, I noticed the “9 minutes left” appeared at the very bottom of the screen. When it was finally done, I had Sonoma 14.2.1 installed.
If you don’t call apple support to fix the bug (which this clearly is, if it happened) how do you expect it to be fixed?
Of course you are absolutely correct, however I don’t know what happened other than the update started without my consent but I would not be able to describe the sequence of events in absolute details.
I know I dismissed the Sonoma nagging update offer. I know for sure I would not click on anything that could even remotely imply that I accept the update.
However the update did happen, either automatically or, more likely, because the acceptance button was disguised as a dismissal button.
I wish I had a screenshot of the options I was offered.
My wife’s mba is still on Ventura and, if I’m able to, I will record the dismissal in detail.
So far I’ve seen of one person that has called Apple only to be told that what he’s describing is ‘impossible’.
Even you in your post had to specify “if it happened”.
I can tell you that at the moment there are a lot of completely deluded people out there if we are all imagining what happened.
Obviously I could always revert to Ventura, but I don’t need Apple’s help for that.
Which could be the interest of Apple to silently force the upgrade to Sonoma ?
Considering it’s a matter of public record that authoritarian states such as the UK are making waves about them being the literal gatekeepers of big tech OS updates, I find this forced software upgrade ‘bug’ highly, highly suspicious.
macOS isn’t open source. Paranoia? Certainly, but remember, just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not out to get you 😲
macOS isn’t open source. Paranoia? Certainly, but remember, just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not out to get you 😲
this is not a bug, seems t me that
wants us to upgrade no matter whatalso in my experience with , i know more than most of the person on the other end.
im using Snow leopard now on forums and lite internet now.
Nice nostalgic quote!
Thing is, we are crazy. But, it's a group, not individual craziness.
Affected too on a OCLP patched Pro 5,1 with a Radeon RX 6800, which cannot run Sonoma. Could prevent the update from beeing installed so far.
Any news on how to (permanently) stop this annoying mess from happening?
Any news on how to (permanently) stop this annoying mess from happening?
"seems to me"! then why is this only happening for some? hmmm, that seems to me like a bug...this is not a bug, seems t me that
also in my experience with , i know more than most of the person on the other end.
im using Snow leopard now on forums and lite internet now.
I just checked on Ventura 13.6.3 and sure enough, 'check for updates' has magically reenabled itself. Every option was previously disabled. Fortunately for me, my Mac is unable to run Sonoma. Allegedly.
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Yeah those are getting annoying.
P.s. if you have ublock origin, the following gets rid of them:
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WTF!? This just happened to me. I was still running Monterey for some software that won't run on a later version and I have automatic upgrades off. I was away from my iMac and Apple has forced it to Sonoma?!?!
And I just found out about that all the problems I had been having since I upgraded to from Catalina to Monterey late 2022 are the result of Mac mini memory that is flakey. I have had tons of grief and I blamed myself. A memtest86 has now shown this Mac mini was almost certainly broken when it arrived. I wanted to start it again and it now hangs during startup.
Apple used to be expensive but with higher quality hardware — not anymore.
Apple used to be expensive but with rock solid software — not anymore.
I am so pissed of now.
And I just found out about that all the problems I had been having since I upgraded to from Catalina to Monterey late 2022 are the result of Mac mini memory that is flakey. I have had tons of grief and I blamed myself. A memtest86 has now shown this Mac mini was almost certainly broken when it arrived. I wanted to start it again and it now hangs during startup.
Apple used to be expensive but with higher quality hardware — not anymore.
Apple used to be expensive but with rock solid software — not anymore.
I am so pissed of now.
Yes, all the recent Apple fails are just the tip of the iceberg. Apple will experience a heavy decline this year. Apple stocks are nosediving. Apple are probably now so desperate that they try to force their customers to use their "latest and greatest", even force updating macOS devices, and maybe they will try to force update iOS devices next.
It really seems like it, Apple is turning more sinister and questionable just like Google and Microsoft.
could be they want us all to wear them "goggles" instead.
I just lost a "numbers file" I can recover or find anywhere from yesterday.
so I deleted 26GB of iCloud-drive data just now and changed to free plan.
im still 95% happy with
though........down 3% from yesterday
Yes, I agree. Apple has become steadily worse & worse & in my experience, ever since a new 'services' team was put together a few years ago to 1) force sell us stuff we don't want or need, but also 2) where that marketing team's assertions don't at all add up with what the sw actually provides (iCloud for example, no MyAlbums sync while Sonoma actually deletes years of personal material in the same way). They really should leave such personal material alone and absolutely stop putting it in a proprietary DB; such a 'walled garden' is completely unethical and certainly not 'magical' BS. As we know, this grab is the opposite to Windows or Android where we keep control of our personal material, eg, with photos these are simply kept in named folders while any metadata resides above & outside of that & certainly without destroying the material.
Sonoma, yes, the same PITA and now 'forced installs':
Just for balance; Nothing like it is happening here.
All auto-update options are off.
I might have noticed the "New updates available" notification show up a little more often lately, but I just click the 'x' and nothing else happens. (I'm used to this because some appstore apps that I don't use have updates).
All auto-update options are off.
I might have noticed the "New updates available" notification show up a little more often lately, but I just click the 'x' and nothing else happens. (I'm used to this because some appstore apps that I don't use have updates).
same here.
i did a full erase and clean install of ventura a couple of weeks ago.
unless i hit the 'upgrade' button (see screenshot) nothing happens and ventura happily sails on.
restarts and overnight sleep doesn't yield any 'forced' updates.
all i have is a wee red 1 in the dock…
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just a thought … when you erase and fresh install, if you erase 'APPLE SSD APOxxxZ Media' and name it 'Macintosh HD' then you erase everything properly, including 'other volumes'.
i always restart from a bootable usb with desired macOS and use disk utility from there before installing macOS.
that way one is installing the recovery volume afresh.
perhaps if you've performed the action solely from the interweb, the issue is emanating from the recovery volume itself?
(hopefully i'm making sense)
