I fully accept there are people out there for whom an LTE connection is great, but I expect you're in a very small minority where most people's needs are satisfied by a decent 3G connection.
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I fully accept there are people out there for whom an LTE connection is great, but I expect you're in a very small minority where most people's needs are satisfied by a decent 3G connection.
I do not agree with the OP. Nothing was more disappointing as the iPhone 5.
The 5 (Not 5s) is nothing more than a 4s. Not literally but it was to conservative especially when at the time most of us were waiting for a 4.8 inch display.
After spending more than year using Samsung phones and disgusting Android, I am coming back to iPhone 5s.
The Android OS, Has the most mediocre horribly user experience I have ever used since Windows XP.
I do not see how anyone could reliably use Android as it can't even do basic functions like Notes, Email, Calendar syncs, and much much more.
It is awful. So complain all you will about the 5s it truly is the superior cell phone experience as of present.
Also you mentioned that iOS was out of date. You probably didn't see iOS7 yet based on what you said.
The iPhone 6 will probably be the big screen, nfc, game changer you are looking for. Until then I will settle in for the 5s.
The 5 (Not 5s) is nothing more than a 4s. Not literally but it was to conservative especially when at the time most of us were waiting for a 4.8 inch display.
After spending more than year using Samsung phones and disgusting Android, I am coming back to iPhone 5s.
The Android OS, Has the most mediocre horribly user experience I have ever used since Windows XP.
I do not see how anyone could reliably use Android as it can't even do basic functions like Notes, Email, Calendar syncs, and much much more.
It is awful. So complain all you will about the 5s it truly is the superior cell phone experience as of present.
Also you mentioned that iOS was out of date. You probably didn't see iOS7 yet based on what you said.
The iPhone 6 will probably be the big screen, nfc, game changer you are looking for. Until then I will settle in for the 5s.
I understand that people prefer the Android OS.
I don't understand the hardware complaint. How is Android hardware better?
I don't understand the hardware complaint. How is Android hardware better?
Because better is always highly subjective and not everyone shops with price as a priority above all else. Never assume that your preferences and priorities are universal or else you'll always wonder "Why would anyone...?".
Not necessarily better, but offering many more choices and hardware configurations. Anything from small screen size to phablet, from dual core CPU's to quad, from 1GB of RAM to 4, from plastic to aluminium, from very cheap to expensive and everything in between...
Actually Apple currently has the most powerful processor and the most powerful graphics processor in any phone by a factor of 1.5 and 8 respectively.
The nexus isn't a better device it doesn't even have LTE. The OS has far more integration than any other OS out there.
The iPhone also has the best screen on the market offering the most natural colors and tones of any phone as well as the highest quality construction.
A top spec Android phone in the 3.5 to 4" screen size could have lured me last year. No such hardware seemed to be available. For all the choice it seemed the smaller screened options weren't great phones. Is such a phone made now?
Now, I'm finding the Apple hardware so excellent it would be hard to leave. A 3.5" option would make it ideal. I guess my preferences are the reverse of the vocal minority on this forum.
To quote cultofmac.com, "[t]he average consumer doesnt care if their smartphone has a 64-bit processor, or a fancy motion coprocessor that handles specific tasks. They also wont put in enough research to understand why the new and improved camera in the iPhone 5s is better than the camera in the iPhone 5; theyll read '8-megapixel iSight camera' on the specifications sheet for both phones in the store and theyll assume they are the same.
To many, the only difference between iPhone 5 and iPhone 5s is a fingerprint scanner. So really, to a lot of smartphone customers, the only difference between the iPhone 5 and the iPhone 5s is a fingerprint scanner . . . ut is the fingerprint scanner really worth the $100 difference? If thats the only differentiator you saw between the iPhone 5s and the entry-level model, would you really pay the extra cash? I dont think the majority of you would; I know I wouldnt. Thats why we have the iPhone 5c."
Exactly how I feel, and exactly why I likely won't be getting a 5s. I am not an average consumer, but I don't care about a 64 bit processor or the a7 chip, simply because I barely will notice the difference. I don't do heavy processing on my phone, thats what my computer is for.
To many, the only difference between iPhone 5 and iPhone 5s is a fingerprint scanner. So really, to a lot of smartphone customers, the only difference between the iPhone 5 and the iPhone 5s is a fingerprint scanner . . . ut is the fingerprint scanner really worth the $100 difference? If thats the only differentiator you saw between the iPhone 5s and the entry-level model, would you really pay the extra cash? I dont think the majority of you would; I know I wouldnt. Thats why we have the iPhone 5c."
Exactly how I feel, and exactly why I likely won't be getting a 5s. I am not an average consumer, but I don't care about a 64 bit processor or the a7 chip, simply because I barely will notice the difference. I don't do heavy processing on my phone, thats what my computer is for.
What are you talking about? It DOES have image stabilization for stills and then some. Xenon flash? Who needs Xenon flash when you have 2 LED's, one cool and one warm, which makes adjustments according to the ambient lighting to get the best results. Sensor size has been increased for larger pixels just like the HTC One to get improved low light performance. What is this panoramic mode issue that you speak of? I've used the panoramic mode on my S4 and iP5 and don't see any issues on the iP5.
Here's the video about the iP5S camera.
http://www.apple.com/iphone-5s/videos/#video-camera
iOS is out of date for many users, and I'm one of them.
It's still basically an app drawer with a newly added on control center and a fresh rainbow color look.
Still no homescreen widgets, which are extremely useful for me.
No bluetooth support for transferring files. I do this a lot when overseas.
No detailed battery usage status. Helps a lot if all of the sudden your battery takes a hit.
No selecting default apps or the option to select which app everytime.
Calendar options are way more robust.
Still no file system access.
No Data Usage manager.
Can only use one Apple account vs multiple Google accounts on Android at the same time.
Stuck with installing apps from Apple's app store only.
Still tied to only one desktop/iTunes.
Also, Differ manufacturer skinned versions of Android give a ton of differ options/features that iOS will most likely never have any time soon. Samsung's touchwiz is the biggest example. Smartstay and Multi window have been godsent for me.
I don't dislike iOS, I still use my iPad 2, but iOS has some growing up to do.
It's still basically an app drawer with a newly added on control center and a fresh rainbow color look.
Still no homescreen widgets, which are extremely useful for me.
No bluetooth support for transferring files. I do this a lot when overseas.
No detailed battery usage status. Helps a lot if all of the sudden your battery takes a hit.
No selecting default apps or the option to select which app everytime.
Calendar options are way more robust.
Still no file system access.
No Data Usage manager.
Can only use one Apple account vs multiple Google accounts on Android at the same time.
Stuck with installing apps from Apple's app store only.
Still tied to only one desktop/iTunes.
Also, Differ manufacturer skinned versions of Android give a ton of differ options/features that iOS will most likely never have any time soon. Samsung's touchwiz is the biggest example. Smartstay and Multi window have been godsent for me.
I don't dislike iOS, I still use my iPad 2, but iOS has some growing up to do.
Yup when the lighting is good. My mate is a photographer and has some pretty great pictures taken with his Iphone 4, but in good conditions. Chuck a moving object into the equation or a bit of lowlight or a person with the shakes then the quality of photos taken by all iphone models goes down very quickly. That's how you should judge the quality of the Iphone camera - how does it perform in adverse conditions.
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The image stabilization is digital, no OIS.
My opinion is totally different but I'm sure I'll just be wasting everyone's time posting it.
I really don't have a problem with the camera. If you really want amazing pictures, you probably shouldn't use your cell phone to take them.
I don't want amazing pictures. I don't expect DSLR quality from a smartphone, but I do expect pictures that are on a par with a $40 P&S. $h!t like this isn't acceptable for a $1000 device, when you have kmart Chinese junk turning out better pics.
Tick-tock-tick-tock. 4-4S-5-5S.
You're right, you should not get an iPhone 5s as it is obviously not meant for you. If the last device you used was iPhone 4 then you may not comment on the 5s. Having used iOS 7 for months on iPhone 5 I can strongly recommend anyone 4S or earlier upgrade next week.
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What is this and where is it from and why is it important?
You're right, you should not get an iPhone 5s as it is obviously not meant for you. If the last device you used was iPhone 4 then you may not comment on the 5s. Having used iOS 7 for months on iPhone 5 I can strongly recommend anyone 4S or earlier upgrade next week.
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What is this and where is it from and why is it important?
I don't think you realize how many companies are iterating and developing iphones (1, it 's Apple), vs all the other Android and WP8 developers (hint, it's EVERYONE else). By simple math, there is no way that Apple can iterate new features in phones as rapidly as everyone else making smartphones.
But, I'll bite, nonetheless. When you say that Apple is behind the curve, which curve is it that you refer?? Which phone? Which company's phones?
I said the same thing...then my city got LTE.
No way in hell I would ever consider a phone without LTE at this point.
I truly love being able to install apps to my phone or to my nexus directly from the play store website. You can choose exactly which device to install the app to without needing to have the device anywhere nearby.
Very handy and convenient.
yes i have. it's not that the screen and the experience isn't great while you are using it in a coffee shop or such. it's just that it's too big as a phone for carrying around. I wish they would make a slightly smaller iPhone that fit's easier in a pocket, is lighter and more robust due to the smaller size. I don't bring my iphone when i go running because it's too big. I can't even imagine bringing the S4 to sports or such.
And this is an age old argument when people criticise Iphones...
Don't like the photos, buy a camera
Don't like the screen size, but a tablet
Don't like the speakers, buy a stereo
Don't like the earbuds, buy some proper headphones
Don't like the fragility, buy a case
When you have just paid over $1000 for a device, I think it's understandable to be slightly miffed when your expensive device is bettered than something costing $40..
Totally willing to ignore the fact that Apple is solely responsible for the modern day smartphone as we know it? Ask Blackberry, and Palm what they think of the iPhone now. I'm still torn because I love the hardware of the Note 3(minus the faux backing) but Android just isn't as reliable as iOS at getting real work done.
And this is an age old argument when people criticise Iphones...
Don't like the photos, buy a camera
Don't like the screen size, but a tablet
Don't like the speakers, buy a stereo
Don't like the earbuds, buy some proper headphones
Don't like the fragility, buy a case
When you have just paid over $1000 for a device, I think it's understandable to be slightly miffed when your expensive device is bettered than something costing $40..
That argument is brought up with any phone really. A camera on a cell phone now a days probably isn't going to be as good as a DSLR. Maybe in 5 or 10 years. You can either buy an actual separate camera, or go find a phone with a way better camera... Nobody's making you buy an iPhone. lol... Roll your eyes all you want, sweety.
I see your point and I'm not expecting DSLR quality photos from Apple, but the cameras they do stick in their phones have been pretty average. Iphone cameras 3, 3S, 4 & 4S produce very poor quality shots in low light. The lcd flash is terrible. The first 2 models didn't even have flash! No OIS in any of their phones, including the 5S. Poor panoramic mode etc etc These are things that Apple could fix up. I understand that there is a compromise, trying to fit a camera into a slim-line phone, but they need to try harder. Paying $1k for a device that takes pictures a P&S from 10 years ago would be embarrassed about is not acceptable. I think Apple should be producing a variety of Iphones, perhaps 3 or 4 in the range. including one that has a camera that is on a par with cheap P&Ss. Samsung are doing it with the S4 zoom.
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