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LIVEFRMNYC

macrumors G3
Oct 27, 2009
8,878
10,987
I truly love being able to install apps to my phone or to my nexus directly from the play store website. You can choose exactly which device to install the app to without needing to have the device anywhere nearby.

Very handy and convenient.

The ironic thing is I sometimes browse and install apps to my Android devices from my iPad 2.
 

Spacial

macrumors 6502
Aug 29, 2013
463
0
Totally willing to ignore the fact that Apple is solely responsible for the modern day smartphone as we know it? Ask Blackberry, and Palm what they think of the iPhone now. I'm still torn because I love the hardware of the Note 3(minus the faux backing) but Android just isn't as reliable as iOS at getting real work done.

What Apple did in the past is irrelevant.

Living in the present reveals that Apple has _chosen_ to use but a small fraction of their technical expertise. Well known as a highly competent, extremely skilled organization, for them to release a mediocre "upgrade" at this juncture is a huge disappointment to those of us who know Apple well.

If you read my earlier post, at no time am I advocating for Android. I simply stated the obvious.
 

Brittany246

macrumors 6502a
Apr 21, 2013
791
0
I don't want amazing pictures. I don't expect DSLR quality from a smartphone, but I do expect pictures that are on a par with a $40 P&S. $h!t like this isn't acceptable for a $1000 device, when you have kmart Chinese junk turning out better pics.

Image

Really? Is it really such a pain in the ass to tap on the screen to focus?

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I see your point and I'm not expecting DSLR quality photos from Apple, but the cameras they do stick in their phones have been pretty average. Iphone cameras 3, 3S, 4 & 4S produce very poor quality shots in low light. The lcd flash is terrible. The first 2 models didn't even have flash! No OIS in any of their phones, including the 5S. Poor panoramic mode etc etc These are things that Apple could fix up. I understand that there is a compromise, trying to fit a camera into a slim-line phone, but they need to try harder. Paying $1k for a device that takes pictures a P&S from 10 years ago would be embarrassed about is not acceptable. I think Apple should be producing a variety of Iphones, perhaps 3 or 4 in the range. including one that has a camera that is on a par with cheap P&Ss. Samsung are doing it with the S4 zoom.

Meh... I still don't really have a huge problem with the iPhone 5 camera.
 

zedzded

macrumors regular
Aug 28, 2013
228
1
Perth, Australia
What Apple did in the past is irrelevant.

Living in the present reveals that Apple has _chosen_ to use but a small fraction of their technical expertise. Well known as a highly competent, extremely skilled organization, for them to release a mediocre "upgrade" at this juncture is a huge disappointment to those of us who know Apple well.

Exactly. They have been in this industry over 30 years, Samsung make fridges and air conditioners, they shouldn't be competing with Apple. Apple should be producing Iphones that make people go "Wow!" They're not. They have a successful product, they have the technical know how to produce exciting, innovative products, instead they are resting on their laurels, adding minor tweaks to old models.


If you read my earlier post, at no time am I advocating for Android. I simply stated the obvious.

Yup me too. I've never owned an Android phone, but feel Apple are losing their way with the Iphone or perhaps losing sight of the big picture.
 

nfl46

macrumors G3
Oct 5, 2008
8,539
9,508
Sorry, I didn't phrase that correctly, I meant my top 10 smartphones. There are at least 10 other phones I'd buy before an iPhone. I genuinely believe they are all better than the iPhone, but again this is personal preference.

Just wow............
 

Giuly

macrumors 68040
Sure it'll still sell in droves as the brainwashed will lap it up, but IMO it's very disappointing. Why would anyone buy the iPhone when you can get a Nexus for less than a 1/3 of the price and it's a better device, the world's gone crazy.

Frankly, if money was an issue, I'd rather buy a Kindle Paperwhite 3G instead of a Nexus. It serves a purpose actually worth spending time on - studying - and doesn't distract you with stuff like Facebook all the time.
 

Carlanga

macrumors 604
Nov 5, 2009
7,132
1,409
For me there is no better phone than an iPhone. I like android and have an android tablet, but it just doesn't flow the same for me.
 

ChrisTX

macrumors 68030
Dec 30, 2009
2,686
54
Texas
What Apple did in the past is irrelevant.

Living in the present reveals that Apple has _chosen_ to use but a small fraction of their technical expertise. Well known as a highly competent, extremely skilled organization, for them to release a mediocre "upgrade" at this juncture is a huge disappointment to those of us who know Apple well.

If you read my earlier post, at no time am I advocating for Android. I simply stated the obvious.

Honestly, what Apple did in the past is completely relevant to the present. The concern I have is that Samsung got a pass for the spec upgrade better known as the GS4, but Apple isn't for the 5S. Outside of Android phones having larger displays, and larger form factors. I fail to see how they're any better than the iPhone in their latest offering the 5S. I'm at the present very much considering buying a Note 3, but I'm also considering going back to the iPhone for the 5S instead because the upgrades IMO are really good. :cool:
 

LIVEFRMNYC

macrumors G3
Oct 27, 2009
8,878
10,987
Honestly, what Apple did in the past is completely relevant to the present. The concern I have is that Samsung got a pass for the spec upgrade better known as the GS4, but Apple isn't for the 5S. Outside of Android phones having larger displays, and larger form factors. I fail to see how they're any better than the iPhone in their latest offering the 5S. I'm at the present very much considering buying a Note 3, but I'm also considering going back to the iPhone for the 5S instead because the upgrades IMO are really good. :cool:


How was the S4 given a pass when it's smaller with a bigger screen than the S3?
 

onthecouchagain

macrumors 604
Mar 29, 2011
7,382
2
Honestly, what Apple did in the past is completely relevant to the present. The concern I have is that Samsung got a pass for the spec upgrade better known as the GS4, but Apple isn't for the 5S. Outside of Android phones having larger displays, and larger form factors. I fail to see how they're any better than the iPhone in their latest offering the 5S. I'm at the present very much considering buying a Note 3, but I'm also considering going back to the iPhone for the 5S instead because the upgrades IMO are really good. :cool:

Many things debatable here. First the s4 was more than a spec bump. If anything it was akin to Apple going from the 4s to the 5, some might argue even more significant.

Second, Samsung has a fuller line up. They have their bases more covered so to speak. From low to mid to higher end phones of varying screen sizes aimed at different users and markets. Apple just isn't doing this with their iPhone line and clearly there are some who are waiting for just that.

Thirdly plenty of people did blast Samsung for essentially pulling an Apple. I disagree with this but it was there. It's not like the caneane to all open arms.

I myself will be very excited next year when Apple redesigns and potentially bring a new screen size.
 
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ChrisTX

macrumors 68030
Dec 30, 2009
2,686
54
Texas
How was the S4 given a pass when it's smaller with a bigger screen than the S3?

It was the same size as the S3, if not just a hair bigger. Otherwise, the point is that Samsung kept the form factor, and overall look the same just beefing up the specs. No one seemed to care about that, until Apple does it. Even though Apple has been doing it since the 3GS.
 

LIVEFRMNYC

macrumors G3
Oct 27, 2009
8,878
10,987
It was the same size as the S3, if not just a hair bigger. Otherwise, the point is that Samsung kept the form factor, and overall look the same just beefing up the specs. No one seemed to care about that, until Apple does it. Even though Apple has been doing it since the 3GS.


Well I agree about the "S" models. They were never meant to be any redesign nor major upgrade. I think the 5S upgrade is decent and expected. Apple didn't wow the mainstream with this "S" upgrade as they did with previous ones. Nobody is really buzzing about the fingerprint sensor like they were about Siri(4S upgrade) or the major upgrade from the 3G to the 3GS. That probably why there's more complaining about this upgrade, added with the insult of the 5C.

The S4 is NOT the same size as the S3. Not on paper and not when I held both next to each other. The S4 is noticeably smaller with a bigger screen.
 

Ubuntu

macrumors 68020
Jul 3, 2005
2,160
491
UK/US
Don't get me wrong, there's no way in hell I'd buy an iPhone at the moment, they're way too far behind the curve (they wouldn't event make the top 10 best handsets), but I was hoping they would come up with something here to put some pressure on the other players.

The finger print thingy looks quite cool, but apart from that it's just the same old camera bump and processor increase with an outdated OS.

Sure it'll still sell in droves as the brainwashed will lap it up, but IMO it's very disappointing. Why would anyone buy the iPhone when you can get a Nexus for less than a 1/3 of the price and it's a better device, the world's gone crazy.

And yes, I know we owe where we are now to the iPhone, I owned the 3, 3GS and the 4, Android copied it shamelessly, but we are where we are, and now Apple is a follower and not a leader.

What's it to you? The nexus is a better device according to you, so why would you have any expectations for Apple to deliver a less-disappointing product? It just suggests you don't truly mean what you say about the nexus. Be happy with what you have.
 
Come on Jony Ive, put a new shirt on. He has gotten on my nerves with his BS. "Look at this terd, we crafted a perfect cylindrical shape and made it even more curved and the brown color was crafted after the most harmonious color of earth and hapiness. It's soft and the scent it gives off is an added bonus."

Haha this Ive dude gives me the creeps. His delivery is so weird.
 

Savor

Suspended
Jun 18, 2010
3,742
918
Honestly, what Apple did in the past is completely relevant to the present. The concern I have is that Samsung got a pass for the spec upgrade better known as the GS4, but Apple isn't for the 5S. Outside of Android phones having larger displays, and larger form factors. I fail to see how they're any better than the iPhone in their latest offering the 5S. I'm at the present very much considering buying a Note 3, but I'm also considering going back to the iPhone for the 5S instead because the upgrades IMO are really good. :cool:
Actually you answered it yourself.

Apple has been doing this S-thing since 2009. Samsung just did it THIS year. So Apple has done it 3X already.

But I'm starting to prefer the s-class year only because you get the more powerful twin. The iPhone 6 will get overpowered by the 6s in 2015 anyway. I like to have both the best design and internal hardware.

But still, with BILLIONS saved up, it would be nice if Apple changes it up from time to time and NOT one design every two years. Like Jordan Nike sneakers. I dont want to see the same design after two years when other OEM's can change the external design every single year with their flagships with a smaller capital than Apple's. Look at the Nexus phones. Each uniquely designed.
 

Oohara

macrumors 68040
Jun 28, 2012
3,050
2,423
Haha this Ive dude gives me the creeps. His delivery is so weird.

The guy certainly comes across as taking himself very, very seriously. I honestly think it's getting to a level where his delivery in these ads isn't helping sales anymore. He's making me feel just a little bit like a gullible idiot for wanting to buy anything Apple.
 

Twixt

macrumors 6502
May 30, 2012
471
11
I'm happy to get the 5s as soon as it comes out, I think it's a good upgrade from my 4s and everyone watch every single of the androids will now be coming out with fingerprint scanners lol! Oh but iPhone isn't leader of the pack! They all just follow though. Motorola's failed their attempt at fingerprint last time lets see how they go on their second attempt

How is the iPhone not in the top 10 of the smartphones? Explain?

HTC One
Note 3
Galaxy S4
LG G2
Nexus 5
Xperia ZU
Xperia Z1
are all ahead

Right, 5S would rank at the very bottom of top 10, great achievement.
 

mikemike690

macrumors regular
Apr 7, 2012
102
5
New Zealand
Agreed.


If people want plastic, they'd go for Samsung (the IN-product for young kids)

If people want IOS, well, it's reported that over 70% (being generous) are using
android, so...

If people want iPhone, they'd go for the 5S.

:apple:

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Nexus isn't a phone.

nexus is a tablet good for Android games, great for watching videos or movies, and excellent for browsing web and reading netbooks.

For that price, Nexus is excellent deal.

Of course, if you want Apps and a brand name, then iPad or iPad mini is for you.

Can't say anything bad about Nexus, man. Try it and you'll be impressed. For that price, you'd have to be. Seriously, try it out.

Apple rocks. But, at a price.

Excuse me they are talking about the Nexus 4 the Google phone.
 

hulk2012

macrumors 6502
Jul 13, 2012
336
5
Don't get me wrong, there's no way in hell I'd buy an iPhone at the moment, they're way too far behind the curve (they wouldn't event make the top 10 best handsets), but I was hoping they would come up with something here to put some pressure on the other players.

The finger print thingy looks quite cool, but apart from that it's just the same old camera bump and processor increase with an outdated OS.

Sure it'll still sell in droves as the brainwashed will lap it up, but IMO it's very disappointing. Why would anyone buy the iPhone when you can get a Nexus for less than a 1/3 of the price and it's a better device, the world's gone crazy.

And yes, I know we owe where we are now to the iPhone, I owned the 3, 3GS and the 4, Android copied it shamelessly, but we are where we are, and now Apple is a follower and not a leader.

You not must buying an iPhone. You buying into apple ecosystem. If you already own ip5 then maybe it's worth waiting another year or two. But let me tell you this though.. Even this that the finger print scan invention in smartphone sounds a bit suspicious to me I think by translating into scanning your finger each time you asked for password seems to be a time saver. That's just me.
 
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