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Who is seriously think about to go away from Apple?

  • to Windows

    Votes: 33 13.9%
  • to Linux

    Votes: 8 3.4%
  • everything ok. stay with Apple

    Votes: 137 57.8%
  • im frustrated and stay with Apple

    Votes: 59 24.9%

  • Total voters
    237

odoy

macrumors regular
Original poster
Aug 4, 2015
124
45
Germany
i swiched 12y ago to apple cause windows was only a pain. too many trouble and i have spent more time on fixing things than do something productive.
now, the last two years i feel the same with apple products. iOS devices, macs and their cloud services.
Nothing works one week without trouble.

I am also getting tired :(
 

Gutwrench

Suspended
Jan 2, 2011
4,603
10,550
I'm still very pleased, but I'm only using the iPhone and iPad. I'm looking forward to buying the Apple TV.
 

Meister

Suspended
Oct 10, 2013
5,456
4,310
A few frustrations, but I have to use various linux and windows versions at work and OSX is still universes better.
 

OLDCODGER

macrumors 6502a
Jul 27, 2011
963
400
Lucky Country
IOS and the Cloud are no problem to me - I don't use them.

However, once my current Mini dies, it will depend on what replacement is available, as to whether I stay with OS X or move completely over to Linux (my laptop already is). The price of the new Mini in AU is a sick joke.
 
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arogge

macrumors 65816
Feb 15, 2002
1,065
33
Tatooine
I fear that Apple has catered too much to stupid consumers and not enough to the professional market. Although they know how to make money on people who keep buying overpriced mobile devices and entertainment consoles, the company doesn't seem too interested in servicing people who need to do real work in a broad market segment. I refuse to upgrade my MacOS again because of all the expected problems, including broken software compatibility and unwanted operational changes. That's the Microsoft upgrade nonsense that I ran from, and I don't want to go back.

Apple came out with its first desktop system upgrade after a long delay, slapped an SGI-style price tag on it, and forgot to include some important features like industry-standard mounting capabilities, non-proprietary internal components that can be fixed without running back to Apple and hoping that the parts are still replaceable, expandability, hot-swappable components, redundancy, cooling options, software certifications, and choices for hardware type and number.

I finally changed my laptop away from Apple, because I decided that I'd rather deal with a custom version of Windows than keep risking a fragile Apple laptop that doesn't work too well outside of an air-conditioned office.

I almost bought an iPhone until I ran into file-management problems and felt like I was being locked into an Apple service structure instead of being able to use it like a regular computer device.

What really matters at purchase time is: can it do the job reliably and at a competitive price? Unfortunately for Apple, the company seems not to want to compete, and that's fine because those of us who aren't interested in the Apple environment can call those companies that do want to service a wide variety of business customers, and it's Apple that has to be compatible with that if it wants more customers. As long as billions of dollars keep coming in from the consumer market, I don't think that Apple will be changing its priorities away from servicing that market any time soon.
 

nrvna76

macrumors 65816
Aug 4, 2010
1,243
1,268
I typically consider a few of the lower priced phones like Moto x and the new lumia recently but I end up with an iPhone. Maybe I will switch one year to save some money.
 

2457244

macrumors regular
Jul 20, 2015
238
140
I wish I could switch to Windows.. I really like what Microsoft is doing a soft late.. The company is kinda out of the spotlight and really creating solid ideas. You can clearly see the company grow each year.

I don't mind Apples higher prices, it's just that their software is such a failure lately. They need 18 months to create an app like Photos for Mac and after this time it's nothing more than a companion app for the iOS version.
Tim Cook is really a realist where Steve was the perfectionist. Tim knows we won't switch because software doesn't work perfectly.

If software like Coda 2, Affinity Designer and Photo + Sketch 3 where available for Windows is would buy PC gear tomorrow and remove everything Apple from my house.
 

placidity44

macrumors 6502
May 20, 2015
367
166
I'll never go back to Windows. Microsoft has left an extremely sour taste in my mouth over the years. XP was rock solid, Vista was a crime against humanity, 7 was rock solid, 8 I understood what they were trying to do but was extremely poorly executed, and 10 I've thought was what 8 should have been. Went through 3 Xbox 360's, got an Xbox One and the disk drive didn't work, got a new one and I was suspended from xbox live for a couple weeks a month later when I hadn't been playing much online. Sold it for a PS4 and have never been happier. Microsoft has usually wowed me with product releases but the product never seems to back the hype up. I desperately want a Hololens but i'm not going to get one because I know it won't live up. Microsoft over promises and under delivers. I only use Unix Based operating systems and have never been happier. Love OS X, and love the various Linux Distros. Only time I get envious is of Android users with expandable memory, customization, wireless charging, etc. Not to mention with OS X I can run any operating system I want via parallels without rebooting.
 

Fzang

macrumors 65816
Jun 15, 2013
1,315
1,081
If Android manages to streamline itself 5-10 years down the line with a greater focus on a fewer number of phones, I might consider changing. Windows is also still a mish mash of new, old and older. The settings menu looks streamlined, but anything you click pops up in a Windows 98 style dialog box, with a coat of Vista paint on.

Sometimes I dislike Apple's decisions. But the cumulative positive decisions they have made outweigh the negatives, compared to other platforms, in my opinion.
 

WarcraftWidow

macrumors member
Oct 15, 2015
98
134
Virginia
If Android manages to streamline itself 5-10 years down the line with a greater focus on a fewer number of phones, I might consider changing. Windows is also still a mish mash of new, old and older. The settings menu looks streamlined, but anything you click pops up in a Windows 98 style dialog box, with a coat of Vista paint on.

Sometimes I dislike Apple's decisions. But the cumulative positive decisions they have made outweigh the negatives, compared to other platforms, in my opinion.

I'm not sure how Android would manage to streamline itself though unless Google takes it back from open source. And as long as it's offered free to manufacturers, I'm guessing there will be a large number of phones.
 

jjduru

macrumors member
Apr 3, 2015
47
41
I don't like a lot of things Apple is doing right now, but I don't have a problem with my current hardware and am not going to worry too much about it.

Your input is next to useless at best. Try to read it with a clear mind what you just typed, maybe you'll come out with a different perspective.
 

ginkobiloba

macrumors 6502a
Jul 2, 2007
664
1,836
Paris
I'm frustrated by many things from Apple, but the alternative is FAR worse. All in all, Apple is still the better choice for me, so I'm staying. And some things are an absolute joy to use.
 

D.T.

macrumors G4
Sep 15, 2011
11,050
12,467
Vilano Beach, FL
The poll choices would suggest 'Apple' in the topic is just considering Macs.

So no, I still really prefer Apple/OSX as my primary computing platform over the alternatives - partially because it's so easily to virtual Windows and Linux when I need them. In fact, I'm getting a new (or "new") notebook soon and the only one I'm considering is a MBP (currently using a nice quad core Mini).

I hear people carping about not catering to "power users" (ugh...) or professionals - I'm about as hardcore as it gets, and I never feel limited. In fact, I feel pretty empowered with the unix under-the-hood. I love how Apple topped a powerful OS, with a beautiful UI, and wrapped it up in nicely designed hardware that has support channels that connects the manufacturer directly to the consumer.

Current uptime, 8 days since my install of ElCap, prior to that 54 days :) I've got a Win7 VM running full screen on a desktop on my 2nd display (running a local Oracle instance and VS2010), the other desktop is several term windows, messages, a dozen text files in TW, CyberDuck, a JSON tool, on my other display Safari (10+ tabs), Mail, Calendar, iTunes - several background processes running like a web server, Postgres (DB server).

Everything just chugging away nicely, running fast, smooth. Yeah, I'm here to stay for a while longer :D
 

Huntn

macrumors Core
May 5, 2008
23,972
27,055
The Misty Mountains
I'm still very pleased, but I'm only using the iPhone and iPad. I'm looking forward to buying the Apple TV.

I have both Roku and Apple TV, both work just as well for streaming. It seems like Apple TV might have a slightly better picture, but it's hard to tell. I got Apple TV for HBO Now and Game of Thrones. So there are some differences in what the two platforms offer, but both have Netfliks. Apple TV allows you to link your iOS devices to your TV and even use them as remotes, but I prefer the remotes that came with the devices.
 

Scepticalscribe

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Jul 29, 2008
65,135
47,525
In a coffee shop.
When I read some of these threads - and read some of the posts, dripping with a tone of bilious irritation and exhibiting symptoms of frustrated devotion, I feel obliged to point out a thing or two.

Firstly, notwithstanding its fantastic history & tradition of superb marketing, Apple is not a religion or a cult, despite its highly successful attempt to sell itself as the de rigueur computing, or mp3, or phone device, that one must have in order to be able to claim membership of an esoteric cult, membership of which was confined to people with taste and intelligence.

Secondly, @arogge - quoted below - seems to have missed the point as to what Apple is about. This is because the market it aims at is not the "can it do the job reliably and at a competitive price", market. Rather, they aim, and they always have aimed at the premium market.


I fear that Apple has catered too much to stupid consumers and not enough to the professional market. Although they know how to make money on people who keep buying overpriced mobile devices and entertainment consoles, the company doesn't seem too interested in servicing people who need to do real work in a broad market segment. ………..



What really matters at purchase time is: can it do the job reliably and at a competitive price?

Thirdly, Apple has moved well away from being a mainly a computer company, or a company that defines itself by how it makes computers and operating systems.

Over the past decade and a half, it has revolutionised the way music is bought and consumed and transformed the music industry on the way. Likewise, it has transformed telephonic communication. Computing is a side line these days, and one that has less importance to the company as time goes on. Indeed, the day may come when Apple will be happy to run the computing arm as a loss-leader.

Above all, Apple is a company, a business. Yes, it is a business in the business of making beautifully designed - and what used to be exquisitely crafted devices that represented a design triumph of form and function, but it is a business not a belief system or a cult. Therefore, its primary function is to deliver value for shareholders, investors, and the company.
 
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Jessica Lares

macrumors G3
Oct 31, 2009
9,612
1,057
Near Dallas, Texas, USA
I didn't want to get into specifics. You always get completely opposite people arguing over things being "wrong". A guy with a $8,000 Canon DSLR doesn't have the same mindset that a person using an iPhone 6S does.
 
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