iTunes music is DRM free as far as I'm aware. I've bought tracks in iTunes that I now have in alternative music players. Just copy it from your iTunes folder.
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[Vote] Who is seriously think about to go away from Apple?
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iTunes music is DRM free as far as I'm aware. I've bought tracks in iTunes that I now have in alternative music players. Just copy it from your iTunes folder.
If that helps at all...
For me, it's all about services. Google Services are a lot better, so that's why I'm moving away from iPhone. Already, I'm trying to use Chrome to sync across my PCs, Macs and iDevices and I'm about to give the Nexus 6P a shot.
Never say never. Nevertheless, I don't have any intention to leave 
. As Jessica (Jessica Lares) said there are a lot of things not to be liked, but Apple is still unique in many ways.
I buy only those products that I like. Fortunately, I enjoy them immensly. Windows, Android are not completely out of my life, but my personal preference is .
P.S.: Google is a "data miner" and a dangerous one.
. As Jessica (Jessica Lares) said there are a lot of things not to be liked, but Apple is still unique in many ways.I buy only those
products that I like. Fortunately, I enjoy them immensly. Windows, Android are not completely out of my life, but my personal preference is .P.S.: Google is a "data miner" and a dangerous one.
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It is DRM free..... it embeds your account name in it.
As long as Ive got the files somewhere I don't mind.... but what has really annoyed me in the past is paying for something on iTunes, and then if it gets removed from the store you can no longer access it...... and you've already paid. They wouldn't refund me either.
While I'm unhappy with what Apple has done with the iMac and I'm not sure about the direction they're going with regarding the MBPs, I'm not about to leave apple.
Even if I opt for a PC, or a Hackintosh, I'll still own an iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch. As others have stated, its not just the hardware, but the services they provide and I don't see myself abandoning those services because they serve me well.
Even if I opt for a PC, or a Hackintosh, I'll still own an iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch. As others have stated, its not just the hardware, but the services they provide and I don't see myself abandoning those services because they serve me well.
The first computer I owned was the original 2005 Mac Mini. My second was the early 2009 Mini, which I am still using, currently running Mountain Lion. My next will be another Mac Mini, in a couple or three years, I guess.
The experience has largely been hassle free, compared to the Windows computers we have at work, which seem to be constantly in need of attention to the software or the hardware. Cheaper they may be at initial purchase, but over time that seems to be false economy.
I got a computer to do things, not to tinker with, or to brag about having the latest, fastest, prettiest or whatever.
In my experience, dating back to the original Mac that I used at university in the mid '80s, Apple computers just work. Admittedly I had little to do with computers of any kind in Apple's dark days of the 90's; my days then were spent driving tractors, building fences, and shearing sheep.
The only real hassle I have had was when I bought new to the market Xerox printer about six years ago, and had problems getting a driver for it. The shop I bought it from was no help. The Xerox people phoned and told me to pop in to see them at Panthip Plaza….. over 900 km away! The local Apple dealer found and e-mailed me the driver. Their sound advice, and prompt service, must also be a factor in staying with Apple.
Microsoft Office may have more features, but the iWork I use on my Mac Mini has all that I need. I do also have Office for Mac installed, but seldom use it. Any Word documents that come with Thai script doesn't open properly for some reason, but they open just fine in Pages, and re-export just fine converted back to Word.
The only other Apple product I own is a wired Apple Keyboard, which I like. I'd be tempted to replace it and the wired Logitech mouse I am using, with the Magic Keyboard and and the Magic Mouse 2 when I replace the Mini I am using now.
I live a simple life, so have neither need nor desire for any other iDevice to complicate things.
The experience has largely been hassle free, compared to the Windows computers we have at work, which seem to be constantly in need of attention to the software or the hardware. Cheaper they may be at initial purchase, but over time that seems to be false economy.
I got a computer to do things, not to tinker with, or to brag about having the latest, fastest, prettiest or whatever.
In my experience, dating back to the original Mac that I used at university in the mid '80s, Apple computers just work. Admittedly I had little to do with computers of any kind in Apple's dark days of the 90's; my days then were spent driving tractors, building fences, and shearing sheep.
The only real hassle I have had was when I bought new to the market Xerox printer about six years ago, and had problems getting a driver for it. The shop I bought it from was no help. The Xerox people phoned and told me to pop in to see them at Panthip Plaza….. over 900 km away! The local Apple dealer found and e-mailed me the driver. Their sound advice, and prompt service, must also be a factor in staying with Apple.
Microsoft Office may have more features, but the iWork I use on my Mac Mini has all that I need. I do also have Office for Mac installed, but seldom use it. Any Word documents that come with Thai script doesn't open properly for some reason, but they open just fine in Pages, and re-export just fine converted back to Word.
The only other Apple product I own is a wired Apple Keyboard, which I like. I'd be tempted to replace it and the wired Logitech mouse I am using, with the Magic Keyboard and and the Magic Mouse 2 when I replace the Mini I am using now.
I live a simple life, so have neither need nor desire for any other iDevice to complicate things.
I use an iPhone and iPad and my wife has 2 MBP's but macs can't do what I need them to do, only Windows unfortunately.
i swiched 12y ago to apple cause windows was only a pain. too many trouble and i have spent more time on fixing things than do something productive.
now, the last two years i feel the same with apple products. iOS devices, macs and their cloud services.
Nothing works one week without trouble.
I am also getting tired
Unfortunately, the alternatives to iPhones and OS X are pretty lousy. Have you used an android phone? Linux is okay but it's the reason I switched to OS X in 2004. I don't run Microsoft on my computers or phone as I would never type my banking details into such a system.
My 2011 iMac is my last iMac as 2012 onwards have hardware regressions. The MBP is okay integrated as 16gb is the min and max memory I need/can have. SSD is also standard so there's not much desire to upgrade as there's nothing to upgrade to.
iPhones and iPad are defacto when you consider the android is the alternative.
The iWatch hardware seems like a joke to me. I will never buy such a thing as I don't wear a watch.
I agree to a point. The 5K is pretty cool and I think that's progressive not regressive. Some of the hardware is not the best, i.e., AMD GPU, 5400 rpm drive in the Fusion drive but it is running skylake and seems to be the best out of the selection of iMacs. Of course you're paying a premium for that as well.
I believe if everyone on MR registered decided to leave Apple, they would still get to a trillion dollars first. MR makes up like less than 1%? Apple is richer than Sony and Microsoft in their prime. They can afford losing a few billions and afford giving away millions of FREE Apple accessories that cost less than a $1 to make that they charge 20-50x more. Apple can have another incompetent CEO like Gil Amelio and they would still be OK. Like Disney, James Bond, and Star Wars, Apple will likely be around forever and ever long after we are all dead.
Think of Nintendo which has been around 130 years. They sold less GameCubes than PS2's and Xboxes but made just as much profit or more than Sony and Microsoft. Their cash cow has been handhelds and first party games. They don't care about volume sales with no real profit. Think of Steve Ballmer when he was CEO of Microsoft. He actually brought the company down. He buys the Clippers for $2B which is 3x higher than what they were worth and Ballmer still worth $20B or the richest team owner in sports. And he was considered an incompetent CEO! Disney struggled with the quality of their animated films. Still have billions to buy both Marvel Studios and Lucasfilm.
Apple will never die no matter if the entire MR users decide to go away from them. This company seems immune to death that companies like Atari and Palm have faced. Apple has $100B cash, aren't as charitable, and shatter iPhone records every year. Critic-proof. No end in sight.
Think of Nintendo which has been around 130 years. They sold less GameCubes than PS2's and Xboxes but made just as much profit or more than Sony and Microsoft. Their cash cow has been handhelds and first party games. They don't care about volume sales with no real profit. Think of Steve Ballmer when he was CEO of Microsoft. He actually brought the company down. He buys the Clippers for $2B which is 3x higher than what they were worth and Ballmer still worth $20B or the richest team owner in sports. And he was considered an incompetent CEO! Disney struggled with the quality of their animated films. Still have billions to buy both Marvel Studios and Lucasfilm.
Apple will never die no matter if the entire MR users decide to go away from them. This company seems immune to death that companies like Atari and Palm have faced. Apple has $100B cash, aren't as charitable, and shatter iPhone records every year. Critic-proof. No end in sight.
Your strange opinions on Ballmer aside (Microsoft's profits more than doubled under his watch by the way), I don't think anybody here said Apple was going to go out of business. Your post confuses me.
5k iMac, 2 MacBooks, Retina Macbook Pro, several iPads, a couple iPhones, iPod Touches, several ATVs, etc. We're fairly-locked into Apple and their ecosystem. I've primarily been a Mac guy since the early 90s.
But I also have a Surface Pro 3. I came pretty close to buying an SP4, but refreshed a Mac instead. But if Apple doesn't have a hybrid in 2-3 years, we may migrate some of our stuff.
I still think that Apple has the best desktop OS
I still think Apple has the best mobile OS
I do think that Win 10 is getting close, on both sides, and LOVE the concept of a hybrid
But I also have a Surface Pro 3. I came pretty close to buying an SP4, but refreshed a Mac instead. But if Apple doesn't have a hybrid in 2-3 years, we may migrate some of our stuff.
I still think that Apple has the best desktop OS
I still think Apple has the best mobile OS
I do think that Win 10 is getting close, on both sides, and LOVE the concept of a hybrid
using itunes and all is good, however why most of the reason as a way to "steer from Apple" as music purchased in the store, now it's gone.... etc as a valid reason to leave Apple ?
Users just don't understand what they sign up for is the reality behind it....
then when the unthinkable happens, say claim it should not meant to happen as i purchased it,, and use that food hold as a reason for everything under the sun.
When u purchase, u don't own anything in the itunes store... u just grant the use of it. where is be streaming/purchased, or rented movies or apps.... That's it....
Apple can legally revoke them anytime and did mistaking do that with The Lion King.... Sure, many people cried out.. but Apple doesn't have a obligation to put it back it it doesn't want.. your using THEIR service.. They control it. Just like any other service.. That could have just said "well we removed it..." leave it as that..
One exception if u have already got apps on iOS, or backup locally which get removed from the store, u can still load the backup app on iOS... I have the old iFixit App still Apple pulled, but i backed it up before it got taken off..
Apple could reach in and delete apps, but i have not seem this happen yet.
Just like any votes, security breaches with Lastpass or otherwise, u'll still be here tomorrow anyway on MR trust me, no one is going anywhere.. it's just all chucking a wobbly.
Users just don't understand what they sign up for is the reality behind it....
then when the unthinkable happens, say claim it should not meant to happen as i purchased it,, and use that food hold as a reason for everything under the sun.
When u purchase, u don't own anything in the itunes store... u just grant the use of it. where is be streaming/purchased, or rented movies or apps.... That's it....
Apple can legally revoke them anytime and did mistaking do that with The Lion King.... Sure, many people cried out.. but Apple doesn't have a obligation to put it back it it doesn't want.. your using THEIR service.. They control it. Just like any other service.. That could have just said "well we removed it..." leave it as that..
One exception if u have already got apps on iOS, or backup locally which get removed from the store, u can still load the backup app on iOS... I have the old iFixit App still Apple pulled, but i backed it up before it got taken off..
Apple could reach in and delete apps, but i have not seem this happen yet.
Just like any votes, security breaches with Lastpass or otherwise, u'll still be here tomorrow anyway on MR
trust me, no one is going anywhere.. it's just all chucking a wobbly.
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Love Apple, everything works perfectly,dabbled in and became proficient in Linux, love Ubuntu, as a easy to learn
UNIX,Linux OS,, in fact my last Windows build is now Ubuntu,still rockin with my 2008 15" MBP,with a 512 SSD,hooked to a 37" Monitor,BT Keyboard,trackpad,and mouse. Lovin Apple
UNIX,Linux OS,, in fact my last Windows build is now Ubuntu,still rockin with my 2008 15" MBP,with a 512 SSD,hooked to a 37" Monitor,BT Keyboard,trackpad,and mouse. Lovin Apple
Since posting this, there have been a few changes:
1. My 2015 iMac had some issues, so I sent it back to Apple. I also very badly wanted to buy a Mac Pro, but just couldn't chunk down so much moolah, for a system that was a couple years old and not really upgrade-able.
2. I bought a big & ugly PC desktop, which I'm typing this on now. Yes, I'm going to make thge change on my primary system. I plan to migrate my ecosystem, over the holidays, when I have some downtime.
3. I also switched my mobile Windows system from the SP3 to an XPS13, which I love.
4. When the dust settles, I'll likely have only one OSX system (my 12" rMB). Though I still plan on using my iPhone, and do have a couple iPads gathering dust, as well as a bunch of ATVs.
At the end of the day, there were a few things prompting me to move:
After 25yrs with Apple, I still love it. It's also funny because I can now get Apple systems issued by my work, unlike my first 20 or so years using Macs. But the current Mac Pro not being upgradeable bugs me. The iMac isn't powerful enough for my main system, and I hate the fact that I can't even replace its SSD without major surgery. And I want to share our family photos and videos locally, without having to use iCloud. I also do like some of the touch features in Win 10, on my XPS 13.
Migrating the ecosystem will be a somewhat painful task, but one I now feel OK with undertaking.
1. My 2015 iMac had some issues, so I sent it back to Apple. I also very badly wanted to buy a Mac Pro, but just couldn't chunk down so much moolah, for a system that was a couple years old and not really upgrade-able.
2. I bought a big & ugly PC desktop, which I'm typing this on now. Yes, I'm going to make thge change on my primary system. I plan to migrate my ecosystem, over the holidays, when I have some downtime.
3. I also switched my mobile Windows system from the SP3 to an XPS13, which I love.
4. When the dust settles, I'll likely have only one OSX system (my 12" rMB). Though I still plan on using my iPhone, and do have a couple iPads gathering dust, as well as a bunch of ATVs.
At the end of the day, there were a few things prompting me to move:
- Upgrade-ability - I hate the fact that I can't upgrade components, even on the Mac Pro
- Price - I did get some outstanding deals on hardware that I wanted
- Flexibility - I'm loving the ability to upgrade components, vs ripping and replacing whole systems
- Win 10 - It's actually gotten pretty good, with an understandable GUI and good multitasking capabilities
- Mandatory iCloud - I hate the fact that Apple is disabling things like Home Sharing, forcing us to put our content on their overpriced iCloud
After 25yrs with Apple, I still love it. It's also funny because I can now get Apple systems issued by my work, unlike my first 20 or so years using Macs. But the current Mac Pro not being upgradeable bugs me. The iMac isn't powerful enough for my main system, and I hate the fact that I can't even replace its SSD without major surgery. And I want to share our family photos and videos locally, without having to use iCloud. I also do like some of the touch features in Win 10, on my XPS 13.
Migrating the ecosystem will be a somewhat painful task, but one I now feel OK with undertaking.
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I'd like a more powerful machine to replace my 2011 base Mac mini. I looked at Apple's range, and then started looking at building a Windows 10 based gaming machine...
I'm impressed by Windows 10. I like Office, and it gets better with each update. I use 8.1 at work, and it's fine. The only problems I have are the fault of our IT department.
My manager has been issued with a new Lumia phone, and asked me, as the tech expert in my team, to help him set it up. It was my first experience of a Windows phone, and it was good. I found it easy to use; dare I say intuitive? I'd like the opportunity to customise it to my liking, and see what apps are available outside of the whitelist.
The recent MS Devices announcement was very impressive, and makes me want to look at a Surface. Hololens looks amazing. And a PC in your phone? Wow!
Perhaps I'm just bored. My iPhone 6S is barely different to the 6. It's mostly inertia, and my friends and family, keeping me Apple.
I'm impressed by Windows 10. I like Office, and it gets better with each update. I use 8.1 at work, and it's fine. The only problems I have are the fault of our IT department.
My manager has been issued with a new Lumia phone, and asked me, as the tech expert in my team, to help him set it up. It was my first experience of a Windows phone, and it was good. I found it easy to use; dare I say intuitive? I'd like the opportunity to customise it to my liking, and see what apps are available outside of the whitelist.
The recent MS Devices announcement was very impressive, and makes me want to look at a Surface. Hololens looks amazing. And a PC in your phone? Wow!
Perhaps I'm just bored. My iPhone 6S is barely different to the 6. It's mostly inertia, and my friends and family, keeping me Apple.
I keep buying Apple stuff but I think they've been making some stupid decisions lately - like the lack of ability to customize your apple watch. The iPhone isn't that much better in that regard.. It's like they don't want geeks being seen in public using Apple devices, but Apple devices are the most common things in the world. *scratches head*
As far as desktops are concerned I still think it's a shame they haven't made a couple of Apple branded motherboards you can use to DIY your own mac.
As far as desktops are concerned I still think it's a shame they haven't made a couple of Apple branded motherboards you can use to DIY your own mac.
Ha, I actually went with a big gaming machine. I did this, not because I like to game, but I just got a really good deal on it (~$4,000 PC for ~$2,000). It's probably got more power than I needed, but certainly enough to do my job for many years. And it can be upgraded, which is great. While it's not a true workstation, it meets my power needs and then some. I'm currently pushing four very large displays with it. And yeah, this middle-aged guy has had a nit of fun playing a couple games in 4k, when the past PC game I played was probably Civilization in the late 90s... LOL
Pushing four big displays (maybe even 5?) was a big requirement for me, as well as having lots of VMs running. I also wanted flexible internal storage. I got sick of having lost of external storage as well as needing a couple small machines. I wanted a system that could do everything in one box, which is what I got.
I will say that, while Windows 10 is approaching of even exceeding OSX as a laptop/hybrid OS, it's still behind as a desktop. There are driver issues still, as you add components, but I guess that's the price for flexibility. Also, OSX can still feel snappier in some UI areas, again as a desktop. On the laptop side, however, my personal feeling is that the touch capabilities make up for some of these issues. Yeah, I have gotten used to touch on a laptop. But a "locked-down" system like a Surface or Del laptop is now cohesive and integrated, without many of the nagging compatibility or stability issues that we had in the past. But again, you lose some of that when you slap new hardware in and make your own Frankenstein of a PC, which is what I've begun to do.
Still, the Apple ecosystem is much slicker and easier to use. But since Apple is beginning to force us to put much of that in the Cloud, by disabling many of the local sharing capabilities that I've used for years, I'm now feeling like I have to investigate other options.
Pushing four big displays (maybe even 5?) was a big requirement for me, as well as having lots of VMs running. I also wanted flexible internal storage. I got sick of having lost of external storage as well as needing a couple small machines. I wanted a system that could do everything in one box, which is what I got.
I will say that, while Windows 10 is approaching of even exceeding OSX as a laptop/hybrid OS, it's still behind as a desktop. There are driver issues still, as you add components, but I guess that's the price for flexibility. Also, OSX can still feel snappier in some UI areas, again as a desktop. On the laptop side, however, my personal feeling is that the touch capabilities make up for some of these issues. Yeah, I have gotten used to touch on a laptop. But a "locked-down" system like a Surface or Del laptop is now cohesive and integrated, without many of the nagging compatibility or stability issues that we had in the past. But again, you lose some of that when you slap new hardware in and make your own Frankenstein of a PC, which is what I've begun to do.
Still, the Apple ecosystem is much slicker and easier to use. But since Apple is beginning to force us to put much of that in the Cloud, by disabling many of the local sharing capabilities that I've used for years, I'm now feeling like I have to investigate other options.
I know what you're saying there - I don't care for the latest iMacs either. My 2011 27" would be my last computer if I could make it last that long. If/when it dies, I may return to a Windows machine, who knows.
I tried a iphone 6 when it first came out and was disappointed in the battery life (less than half a day for my uses) so much that I took a $50 hit to return it to TMo and "downgraded" to an Ebay "new" LG G2 that almost always lasts all day for me. The 4.7" footprint of the 6 is "right sized" for me, and I like the easy iPhone/mac integration, but not at the expense of battery life, especially for a phone priced as high as it is. I don't see an iPhone in my future without a change in Apple's anorexic "form before function" design philosophy vis-à-vis thinner vs battery life.