Actually what I wait for is that some key specs to my current machine are doubled at the same price I payed. So my Dual Core 13" 1TB SSD and 16 GB RAM should be a quad core with 32GB RAM and 2 TB SSD. Also I would like to go back to 15".
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Wait for Next Years 2018 MacBook Pro Update if You Can
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I don't think RAM is the limiting factor it was 10 years ago. With SSD speeds and bus controller speeds increasing, as well as CPU caches, RAM just isn't the issue it once was. It's nice to have but not always essential, and waiting for things to double will take a long time. I don't think we'll ever see 256GB of RAM in a consumer laptop, RAM would probably be long obsolete before that point. So we should see 32GB in around 2020 in majority of high end, with 16GB being the baseline. But 64GB? 128GB? I mean all RAM is effectively is a memory buffer for applications to use during calculations, if you had a terrible CPU it'd be critical to the function, but if the CPU could speedily go through the stuff then it's not needed is it?
16gb vs 32gb, i don't have comment on that, i personally don't need 32gb
but intel directly quoted a comparison between a dual core and a similar "quad core" variant.
my feeling is always that your mileage may vary. When you are creating everything using the same TDP and lithology process, you don't often create magic. IE, intel would have to make a much larger chip with a much larger TDP to actually double the power of current dual core chips. We're probably sacrificing some single core performance for a "up to 30% quad core" performance.
I have always been rewarded for waiting for incremental updates (like this one) and punished for purchasing new major redesigns (15" rMPB debut I'm looking at you). This never seems to change. Waiting for and then buying the next big thing on the horizon always ends in a world of hurt and hassle.
You'd probably have to wait a while for these specs at today's prices. And seeing how prices have gone up on comparable models of 4-5 years ago, it might not happen anytime soon. That said it's the same logic I mentioned earlier - as long as your current machine does the job it's more difficult to justify spending so much on a new one. No middle ground unfortunately.
I too do not believe double performance going from 2 cores to 4, but at least a 50/60% increase is credible, and if one is on the market for a 13" MBP it would be worth the wait.
link?
A Quad core chip would also mean all 4 TB ports full speed for the 13" TB vesion...
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/05/30/intel-coffee-lake-30-pct-performance-boost/
I'm sorry it's 30+%
. I read that as up to 30%
You'd probably have to wait a while for these specs at today's prices. And seeing how prices have gone up on comparable models of 4-5 years ago, it might not happen anytime soon. That said it's the same logic I mentioned earlier - as long as your current machine does the job it's more difficult to justify spending so much on a new one. No middle ground unfortunately.
Yeah I probably have to wait a while but that also somehow a good thing. My machine is plenty fast for everything I do so why upgrade. The invention of the SSD somehow rendered the upgrade need away. I also put a SSD in my wife's 2010 MacBook and it runs perfect to this day.
2018 thread title is already here!!
Wait for Next Years 2019 MacBook Pro Update if You Can
Wait for Next Years 2019 MacBook Pro Update if You Can
Yep, 100%. It's more or less use until it breaks down for a lot of people.
Ant that explains why SSD are so expensive, because they (manufacturer) cash in on that knowing that people won't update their device.
Potentially yeah. They know that a computer is a long term purchase and since it's not upgradable they can charge more. I'd be interested to see the cost breakdown comparison between different brands for comparably specced machines, including Macbooks.
By the time they are on 2018 MBPs, we will have a higher Sierra waiting on us.
We should obviously wait for the 2019 then!
I initially wrote that from the perspective another MBP would be ready by March, but with the delay of Coffee Lake until 2018, we probably won't see the new MBP until fall 2018. Which means, macOS 10.14 would be out by then.
There is a point to be made for waiting for a node change update. If you look at GPU's, Pascal was much better than Maxwell in terms of performance/power consumption. I would say it's more relevant for those looking to upgrade from older machines than people requiring a new machine.
It won't be far off 12 months before Coffee Lake based laptops are available. I'd be interested in the 6 core mobile CPU. I saw a Lenovo roadmap online a few weeks ago for future releases of their workstation range (P60 & P80), that was for May 2018.
We do also have Ryzen mobile upcoming, Ryzen has certainly shaken Intel in the desktop market, who knows the next Apple MacBook Pro could have a Ryzen mobile CPU?
We do also have Ryzen mobile upcoming, Ryzen has certainly shaken Intel in the desktop market, who knows the next Apple MacBook Pro could have a Ryzen mobile CPU?
Ok but i am sitting on a gift card to buy a new one because i returned one last Christmas, since my 2011 MacBook Air was still working lol. I saved the gift card waiting on the newer model (when I actually need it), but now my "want" is starting to outweigh my "need" lol. What do I do??? Buy now, wait for 2018? Help lol!! I assume either of the will be lightyears faster than what i currently have, correct? As you can see I am not a heavy user and want one that will last so what say ye, buy now or wait for 2018?
2017 MBPs have just been released, buy now if you want/need it. Or wait till next year for the 2018 model. It really isn't that difficult, there will always be a newer one out 'next year'. If you want one then now is a good time as it's a brand new release, as opposed to buying something this time next year when you're talking about a month till newer models. The internet isn't going to curtail your 'want' into justifying a need, it's just speculative wanting to spend money. As always, and as was said in what you quoted, buy something you need when you need it. Otherwise you're just wasting time dreaming.
And yes, anything will be significantly faster than a 2011 Air.
Story of my life.
Still rockin a MacBook Air 2011 and Mac Mini quad 2012. Was waiting for an updated 17inch that never came and ummed and ahh'd waiting for the nect big thing. ☹
I bought a 15" 2010 MBP back in 2010. And today, it's still running great. No need to wait for anything. Buy what you need and use it, and then move on with your life. Get out and exercise or something. Quit smoking. Have sex. Volunteer at a homeless shelter. Whatever. There are things in life that are way more important than having the latest and greatest computer. Seriously folks.
Well, you're partially right, however, what would you recommend me to do if I have a older MBP with 16 GB of RAM and I need more, because you for example run:
Xcode/Visual Studio + iOS Simulator (4G+) + Safari with plenty of tabs (another 4G taken easily, sadly
), 1 GB+ is used as VRAM with external display, Mail, Slack (another 1 GB), some VM (used for example while developing app for BLE SoC which has Win-only IDE (Cypress) - 4G+)... And I'd have my RAM basically depleted.I would buy 16 GB MacBook Pro, however, not for these prices (3350 USD here for 13"/512G/16G, 15" costs like 3500 USD) - ~3300 USDs are more than 2 average monthly wages here.
The Macs are getting more and more pricey - if 16 GB was standard for 13" as well, it would be a different story as I would pay 2000 EUR for it (13"/16/512 config), but it isn't worth the current prices.