Yeah it will be nice to see the final design for the first time in the release video, I don’t think the renders match up very well with the schematics for the most part, particularly for the display section!
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Waiting for 2021 MBP
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I'm really interested how much Apple will charge for them. Do the cost of the new display, ports and R&D outweight the savings with the removal of the TouchBar and the use of Apple Silicon? Do they see the new models as a great way to increase the prices or do they keep the price the same, making the Pros more a "we're sorry we messed everything up, you now got everything you asked for for the same price, now stop complaining"?
No, I need to know how much power they'll use exactly to decide on the USB-C with PD hub I'm planning to buy 😂
We still have conflicting rumors about the design, chip name and max RAM. This is nothing like the iPhone event where we actually knew pretty much everything and the event was just to confirm. I think Apple will have some genuine surprises in this event.
It’s been a long road from WWDC. I know I am really looking forward to finally getting away from Intel be even more so, I’m looking forward to finally ending this problematic Touch Bar MacBook Pro generation.
As I type this the Apple store is down and when it comes back up, we will have a new generation of MacBook Pros!
Finally! And what a ride it was...I remember all the rumors about the WWDC with new MBPs... finally it's coming to an end!
This was nothing compared to the dark days of waiting for the 2016 MBP. That thread had over 1400 pages. And what we got wasn’t exactly worth the wait… 
OK crew,
I'm deciding if I'll splurge on 32gb of ram or not. I'm mostly a casual user, but considering adding 32gb for a few reasons:
Pros for upgrading to 32gb:
- would better support xcode/programming, I just dabble here though.
- would be much better for any needed VMs (though not even sure what i'd use now since no Windows support)
- I don't really do much video encoding or similar
- I tend to keep my laptops for a very long time (though may change this pattern)
- 16gb feels ancient to me. My 2015 macbook from 6 years ago has 16gb!
Cons for upgrading to 32gb:
- +$400 most likely
- I was able to buy $2800 of apple gift cards at 20% off (target), which means that it would cover a 1tb/16gb model most likely. It also means that the additional $400 of cost wouldn't get that 20% off making it even more expensive.
- Base model macbooks tend to hold their value the best when you look at depreciation. I think this is mostly a gamble on if I think I'd upgrade in 3-5 years or not.
- Integrated RAM is more performant than old DDR style ram, but obviously is still limited
What's your vote? 16gb or splurge on 32gb? I think at $300 or less I'd pay for the upgrade but I doubt that's happening based on the other models. Also depends on when I think I'd upgrade.
What else might be coming in future MBPs that might push me to upgrade sooner than 5 years? I don't think there's a lot but can think of: wi-fi 6e/6ghz (available now just not with apple) or wi-fi 7 expected 2025, av1 hardware decoding, OLED screens. Doubt we'll see the massive cpu performance leaps moving forward like we did with M1, though a move to ARM v9 and better lithography may see a +20-25% jump next time around.
I'm deciding if I'll splurge on 32gb of ram or not. I'm mostly a casual user, but considering adding 32gb for a few reasons:
Pros for upgrading to 32gb:
- would better support xcode/programming, I just dabble here though.
- would be much better for any needed VMs (though not even sure what i'd use now since no Windows support)
- I don't really do much video encoding or similar
- I tend to keep my laptops for a very long time (though may change this pattern)
- 16gb feels ancient to me. My 2015 macbook from 6 years ago has 16gb!
Cons for upgrading to 32gb:
- +$400 most likely
- I was able to buy $2800 of apple gift cards at 20% off (target), which means that it would cover a 1tb/16gb model most likely. It also means that the additional $400 of cost wouldn't get that 20% off making it even more expensive.
- Base model macbooks tend to hold their value the best when you look at depreciation. I think this is mostly a gamble on if I think I'd upgrade in 3-5 years or not.
- Integrated RAM is more performant than old DDR style ram, but obviously is still limited
What's your vote? 16gb or splurge on 32gb? I think at $300 or less I'd pay for the upgrade but I doubt that's happening based on the other models. Also depends on when I think I'd upgrade.
What else might be coming in future MBPs that might push me to upgrade sooner than 5 years? I don't think there's a lot but can think of: wi-fi 6e/6ghz (available now just not with apple) or wi-fi 7 expected 2025, av1 hardware decoding, OLED screens. Doubt we'll see the massive cpu performance leaps moving forward like we did with M1, though a move to ARM v9 and better lithography may see a +20-25% jump next time around.
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I still think there's a possibility of a modest decrease for the 16", it's the one they're going to save money on by moving to the SoC approach which may still more than cancel out any increase from a custom mLED panel (the Intel CPU is more expensive, and there's a dGPU, more complex cooling set up etc). Fully expecting the 14" to start at $1,999. I guess there's also the possibility these really will be peerless machines that Apple thinks they can charge whatever they like for so they could get a lot more expensive too, though... really wouldn't like to make a guess.
One last minute thought, I wonder if the glowing logo makes a return? It sounds like it would have to be a deliberate addition now, but they have focused on it in marketing material even when the newest machines didn't feature it...
Hoping 64gb ram option isn't too steep. Also hoping there's room for an NVMe blade. /dreamingofpony.jpg
I'm going to get 32 GB because:
-My 2019 16" had 32 GB and while it might have been overkill, I'm not going to "downgrade".
-The early reviews of M1 machines pointed out that they used a lot of RAM, and if the RAM was inadequate, the SSD was being used at a higher rate (or something like that, I don't remember, but it freaked me out).
-I want the highest graphics option, which presumably will require more RAM since it will be shared.
-I agree 16 GB feels old. My 2016 13" MBP had that and five years later, I feel it's time to move on. SSD storage keeps increasing, RAM in the iPhones has increased since then, time to get the next step up.
I'm just hoping that rumor that the 32-core GPU will require 64 GB of RAM is not true.
Season finale of Intel streaming soon!
Well I don’t want any last minute spoilers. I’m going to keep macrumors closed unlit everything ends. I kinda like that there still a lot of unknown details.
It’s been a nice journey with you all!
Well I don’t want any last minute spoilers. I’m going to keep macrumors closed unlit everything ends. I kinda like that there still a lot of unknown details.
It’s been a nice journey with you all!
So, there are two chips that have recently appeared in Apple specs.
There are also these alleged specs being leaked out...
The ‘M1X’ chip is expected to feature a 10-core CPU design and a 16-core GPU, with a 32-core GPU option also available.
As preorders will most likely begin immediately following the event and I won't have time to discuss this with all of you...
As someone who runs about two dozen programs at once at startup (I am going with 64GB memory) and also does video editing which of those three GPU options should I go with? What's the sweet spot going to be here?
I will say that if there is a tier that combines 32gb of ram and a better igpu all combined for $400, that would be a much better value prop as well!
Doing the math, $400+tax ($424) over 5 years is like 23 cents a day. So easy to justify things that way. Even lower since I can write it off as a business expense as well.
Got my card ready for a 14" 32GB/512GB, hopefully the store isn't getting hammered too much though..
I usually hate any pre-order, or "order quick or else you've gotta wait another month" moments.
I usually hate any pre-order, or "order quick or else you've gotta wait another month" moments.
I’m at work until 1pm and my lunch hour already ended. I don’t have the type of job where I can just sit at a cubicle and order my 2021 MBP as soon as pre-orders go live… do you think after 1PM Pacific Time the shipping dates will be pushed back a month or more???
These MacBook Pros have been in production for months now.
I think there will be plenty of stock. There have certainly been no leaks pertaining to supply constraints on these machines.
LOL I'll be in work meetings as well but closely watching this to pull the trigger
Wow. First rumor I read about that (Though its many months old). These have been in production for months so I did not expect this.
