Intel’s desktop CPU business vertical is doing fine. This is a hit to their mobile CPU business but it’s not like they don’t have other computer manufacturers in their book.
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They should've seen it coming for 5 years or so. The mac 2016 was designed with Intel process improvements in mind, which Intel never delivered. But Intel have been basically at a standstill since then. All they did was reuse the same process, with small tweaks, and up all the specs so power went up. If Intel and their investors didn't see that after 5 years of standstill, there may be a serious impact, I don't know where they were looking.
Who said they didn’t see it coming? One of my cousin’s friends works at Intel and apparently they’ve known about Apple’s plans to go back to making their own CPUs for a long time. 🤷♂️
and they didnt do anything?!
Ok, then Intel deserve it and terminator-jq should not feel sorry for Intel
servers are also going arm...UK by the end of 2030 will be arm only
desktop are going away...remember the M1x is a hit to the desktop cpu also...since this SoC will be scalable for the desktop high end also, like mac pro and so on
So no, Intel is not doing fine...its doing fine because a lot of windows OEM still uses Intel cpu...If amd was an option for all of the intel devices...then Intel would be even worse
I think you’re underestimating the desktop PC market in business and in gaming verticals (these are buyers who will never buy Apple desktop computers).
Mini-led Ipads use PWM at 19190Hz, I guess that's what we'll get (current MBP 16" flickers at 131700Hz)
who said that they have to go with Apple
i was talking about Intel and Amd that will go arm in the next future, they have to.
Desktop pc was a big thing 10 years ago...now smartphones are the big thing (money spent on mobile games has surpassed 1.2 billion pounds. Now it's bigger than PC and console gaming combined.)
While I have enjoyed this thread, I'll also be happy to see the back of it. Hopefully I'll have a new computer in my hands within 3 weeks! BTO will probably take 2 weeks or so I guess... Unless they release a 16" 1TBHD 32GRam 32CGPU as a standard config!😱 Haha. No way will that happen.
I just hope the 32gb of RAM is $200 and not $400…
God knows I need it for internet surfing.
God knows I need it for internet surfing.
I doubts this. The average human eye can detect flickers at 500 Hz and the outlier around 1000 Hz: https://www.nature.com/articles/srep07861
There is a limit to how fast a nerve cell can recharge between light impulses to transduce the next light impulse. 19-131 kHz is far from 1 kHz.
Apple charges $200 for extra 8 gb of Ram
So expect $400 for another 16gb ram
What kind of workflow would one need to justify 32GB of ram? I'm just starting out my career in marketing and design and sometimes i notice some laggy behavior when working in photoshop and After Effects on my M1 Air (8gb). Would 16GB cover me or should I go to 32GB?
You seem to think that this is an all or nothing game. It’s not. There are multiple CPU use cases (e.g. productivity, gaming, development, design, etc.) in multiple verticals (e.g. desktop, mobile, server, embedded, etc.). Desktop PC gaming is not dead, and accounts for nearly 33% of global CPU market share by itself. Has it changed? Sure, but it’s not dead. In the grand scheme it’s irrelevant how much mobile gaming generates in revenue as it does not negate the other verticals that bring in their own revenue. CPU manufacturers must compete in multiple sectors, and have done so since the 1980s. Nothing new for them as there is a constant ebb and flow to this business model. How Intel responds is yet to be seen in this specific micro-case.
Design for one. Video and heavy graphics work will use it. If you’re in the design space, generally recommended to max it out.
You should be fine with 16gb. 16gb covers a large range of scenarios and for almost everyone, is all they need.
The only reason you’d ever want to go to 32gb is if you’re working with VMs (you wouldn’t be in your role) or if you’re working with very large sized print graphics (which you might be).
I am going with 32gb as I regularly use at least 2 VMs or more and it just gives me some headroom to play around with, specially for the next 3 years. I’d recommend 16gb for you.
Honestly 32gb of RAM is just future proofing for the most part. I use my base model 2019 16” for 4K video editing in Final Cut, 2D design in Affinity Designer, Photo editing in Affinity Photo, music production in Logic Pro app and game development in Unity and 3D modeling and rendering in Blender and Modo. Again that’s the base model unit from nearly 2 years ago with 16gb of RAM and it’s never ran out of memory…
That being said, if I had a bunch of internet tabs open and tried to run Blender, Final Cut, Logic and Affinity at the same time, then I’m sure I’d run into some issues but honest how can you use those programs at the same time anyways? If you use the software you need and after your finished close it, you could probably get away with 8gb of RAM especially with Apple silicon.
Personally for me I work in the Cloud Engineering sector, so I do most of my work on a VDI (Citrix) and then do some additionally work on Visual Code alongside a couple of terminals windows using home-brew and oh my zsh to make things easier.
These days I work so much from the VDI that the M1 Mac is sort of enough, yes I notice the 8GB RAM Constraints and I do like 8GB of SWAP everyday but it gets the job done (it is a bit slower due to I/O and again RAM but as a temporary solution until M1X is doing fine)
These days I work so much from the VDI that the M1 Mac is sort of enough, yes I notice the 8GB RAM Constraints and I do like 8GB of SWAP everyday but it gets the job done (it is a bit slower due to I/O and again RAM but as a temporary solution until M1X is doing fine)
AfterEffects can be really hard on RAM, much harder than Premiere. Typically in AfterEffects, you stack lots of layers. That's what design is all about. If you do that for very short clips, you might be OK with 16GB. Where I work (broadcast, full HD work) we got 64GB PCs to work with AfterEffects.
How long does it normally take for shipping times to start slipping?
Assuming I'll be getting the high end 16" with upgraded ram/graphics, do I need to buy it immediately after the keynote? I'm in Japan which means it won't finish until ~4am and I'm working the next day.
Assuming I'll be getting the high end 16" with upgraded ram/graphics, do I need to buy it immediately after the keynote? I'm in Japan which means it won't finish until ~4am and I'm working the next day.
Here’s some data to base an assumption on:
When to Expect the M1X MacBook Pros to Become Available to Order
Apple today announced it will be holding a virtual event on Monday, October 18 at 10 a.m. Pacific Time, and rumors widely suggest that redesigned...
www.macrumors.com
Obviously hard to know for certain as based on supplies but my guess, demand appears to be high, so wouldn't expect it to be long before shipping times start to slip