I think I’ve saved myself $30k because of weak product upgrades in the last 6~7 years. If the 6,1 hasn’t sold well then it’s a product problem. Ideally I would upgrade every 3.5 years, but I skipped the 5,1 and eventually got one 2nd hand when the 4,1 became too long in the tooth. The 6,1 is of no interest. I’ve seen friends’ kids move into Hackintoshes running multiple operating systems eventually drop OS X altogether. Along with iPhones for Samsungs, iTunes for Spotify. . . I’m going to have to skate to where the puck is headed for too if there’s no 7,1 soon. That would end a forty-year history of buying uncountable Apple products.
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Anyone remember my post about the possiblity of earlier Kaby Lake release? It looks like they will come in the middle of December rather than middle of January.
What is more important, despite the fact that most journalists have noted that Skylake-EP lineup will go in Q2 out in the wild, the more probable situation is paper launch. Few customers getting first samples for sales of Skylake-EP in December, more customers through Q1, and wide availability in Q2, rather than 2H of 2017.
What is more important, despite the fact that most journalists have noted that Skylake-EP lineup will go in Q2 out in the wild, the more probable situation is paper launch. Few customers getting first samples for sales of Skylake-EP in December, more customers through Q1, and wide availability in Q2, rather than 2H of 2017.
New Mac Pro is still locked to Vega. Vega got delayed again back to it's original release date middle of next year. So here we are. I don't think Intel's roadmap is the issue here.
Would be nice if Apple would just give up on AMD at this point and throw an Nvidia GPU in.
Would be nice if Apple would just give up on AMD at this point and throw an Nvidia GPU in.
http://semiaccurate.com/forums/showpost.php?p=274180&postcount=343
Whats more, Vega is done from 6 months. Pushing it back to middle of the year would mean that they something catastrophic would end up somewhere.
And last thing. AMD will launch their own gaming platform. Made from Zen+Vega. 17th January is the release date for Zen. Vega can only launch before that time, not after.
Edit: I see where you got this information: http://fudzilla.com/news/graphics/42233-vega-10-launching-in-1h-2017
Lets see if it will turn out to be true. Rumor mill is tremendous about AMD hardware, lately...
What delay? The Kaby Lake CPUs and Skylake-EP are launching faster then they were supposed to.
It's possible Apple would get early access to Vega. But there just can't be a Mac Pro until Vega launches. There's no alternative on the AMD side.
That's more clear.
To be clear: I don't think the Mac Pro is cancelled. But with all the Vega issues my worry is that Apple could just say "screw it" and give up.
In July, after the ending of engineering of Vega designs, Lisa Su in one of investor conferences have said that Vega is coming WITHIN 2 quarters. That would mean time span from Q3 to Q1 2017.
It is extremely illogical at this point to believe that Vega will launch at the end of Q2 2017. We have to bare in mind also what it does mean.
There are two GPU designs in Vega stack, apart from the APU GPU. There are two markets that are targeted with those GPUs: Consumer, and professional. Previously, people claimed that Vega is launching this year. Later that at the beginning of next year.
I have had information that consumer RX 490 will launch this year. In other words:
Small Vega for Consumer market - this year.
Big Vega for professional market - this year.
Small Vega for professional market - next year.
Big Vega for consumer market - next year.
The only reason why big Vega would not launch for consumer market first would be that one customer would buy ALL of available supply for it, and demanded early release of it. Would it be Apple? Its one of the possibilities.
I particularly liked the Vega 9 in Fud
Let's hope Skylake-W also comes early, that's the one we're interested in, for the nMP that is.
And that Vega comes out soon enough.
Let's hope Skylake-W also comes early, that's the one we're interested in, for the nMP that is.
And that Vega comes out soon enough.
Hope that happens as that would still mean new iMac and Mac Pro first quarter next year. But no Vega still means the whole desktop line is frozen. Certainly a slip from AMD hinting that we're see it this year.
I can't imagine Apple is happy about the lack of Vega either.
I am not sure whether or not Apple will scrap the Mac Pro like has been said. The little black cylinder Mini Mac Pro form factor, removing most of the internal expandability options has made the current Mac Pro very much less desirable for many pros and enthusiasts alike, who have not bought one. Basically looks like a waste of money for alot of people for this svelte fashion object. So my guess is Apple is selling far fewer of these Mac Pros than they did the big aluminum tanks. And it is likely Apple could stop making them if customer response is as low as it looks.
Because they haven’t recovered the expense of setting up production of the can, when they thought it was the greatest thing on earth: “Can’t innovate, my ass!” The market, however, shunned it. The question now is whether they will be professional enough to admit it and deliver a marketable product. Every delay in upgrading the 7,1 just makes its out-of-the-gate poor functional value for money worse. My view is that it’s EOL’ed but they’re working on some other form factor, which is not necessarily encouraging given the iPhone 7’s lack of a headphone jack and the new touchbar mbp [sic].
You forgot the necessary dongle to connect it to the Mac. 29$
ahh yes how could i forget the iDongle that will probably have a feature of a built in s-video to lightning port.
"....our most beautiful and innovative dongle yet,
it is game changing, and no one else has ever done it before,
and we're very excited to bring it to your hands today..."
(or in Q4 2019)
If there is new Mac Pro coming maybe it will be an Apple/PC workstation manufacture joint venture like the Apple/LG display joint venture.
Where did Apple declare the Lightning as new standard? The audio jack as being old enough to be dumped? Yes. The Lightning port as the "future" of wired audio technology? No.
Apple has to be fully aware that USB standard org has been working on this via Type-C.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10719/usbif-publishes-audio-over-usb-typec-specifications
Apple is pushing Type-C on Macs. What is Lighting going to do? The relatively small subset of iPhone only headsets isn't going to define a standard. While the percentage profits of the smartphone industry are still high for the iPhone the percentage of phones deployed is going down. In the next couple of years Type-C will extremely likely grow to cover the bulk of the smartphone deployments. This proposal by the USB-IF is aimed at enabling that.
Lightning allows thinner iPhones. That's about it. It isn't driving audio standards at all. Apple is pushing "easier, more stable", wireless Bluetooth for more than Lightning as the 'future'. Go to http://www.apple.com and scroll down slightly and see "Wireless. Effortless. Magical" Airpods (that you can't buy yet). The Accessories logo at the top menu of iphone product offerings .... Airpods layered on top. Apple included the "lightning to mini jack" adapter in the box with the iPhone. They know where the standard is now. Ligthning is more of a transition mechanism than a long term destination.
Lightning is primarily a proprietary tweak of a USB port. Macs need proprietary USB ports like they need a hole in the bottom of the system. There is a port with standards support for digital audio that the newest Macs are already converging to.
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Beats is rolling out more Bluetooth than Ligthning.
Solo 3, Powerbeats 3 , XBeats. Eventually Beats will have three headphones to Apple's one powered by the W1 chip. Unlikely that the number of Lightning models are going to outnumber the more broadly usable Bluetooth ones over the long term.
That is kind of loopy analysis. Forgot about the Nexus 7 and the rash of 7" Android tablets? It isn't just Phablets that drove the iPad mini.
Huh? Generally kids have disposable iPad money? Not. They are price sensitive since most of them aren't earning a living.
We'll see. The iPad mini Pro rumors are trickling on the front page. Even at expanded screen, bezel diminished format, if they are leaving the top bezel for the Camera then there is also going to be below bezel area for the audio mini jack because it is on that side of the iPad. So no.... probably isn't going away.
More affordable iPads is a major problem for Apple. IMHO that is part is why iPad growth has stopped. Apple can frown on and denigrate the $90 Amazon fire special tablets but that is a price point that most of the world can afford. Not Apple's. Not saying Apple has to go that low but the iPad mini could be down around the iPod Touch range and still be quite profitable.
In short, the iPhone is a corner case about the mini-Audio jack. That corner case is driven by that particular small volume constraint and drive to seal up and go to haptic button.
I think there's gonna be an upgraded trashcan by mid next year. For us that bought the 6.1 when it came out, it's about fine, because the machine can easily carry us through another year (except for the annoying 5k display display port issue).
But for everybody else who's still on a previous generation, I feel bad. I say it's highly unlikely they'll change the form factor next year after building up a whole factory in the US for it. And why would they? It's an awesome design and by now, professionals have come to like it.
But for everybody else who's still on a previous generation, I feel bad. I say it's highly unlikely they'll change the form factor next year after building up a whole factory in the US for it. And why would they? It's an awesome design and by now, professionals have come to like it.
What is the basis for your claim that professionals have come to like it?