Most car today have the radio being an integral part of the dash making it hard and ugly if you replace them. And it's also quite a job to remove the one presently installed. My VW mechanic nearly cried when I broke the LCD screen of my previous Jetta due to the fact that he had to totally remove the dash to get to it.
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Another unrelated post, but anyone know when the e5 2600v2 will go eol. Might grab a 12 core 2697 for my z series up from a 6 core
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Ran across this today... https://9to5mac.com/2017/03/23/iphone-macbook-hybrid/
Not sure how it relates to the "core" discussion but interesting to see.
Ran across this today... https://9to5mac.com/2017/03/23/iphone-macbook-hybrid/
Not sure how it relates to the "core" discussion but interesting to see.
I could see Polaris 20 as the low end card for the nMP but since there will (possibly) be 7 Vega SKUs it's quite possible it's a full Vega lineup for the nMP. this could be both Vega 10 and 11.
What is Polaris 20?
All of the Vega SKUs in the linux driver were for Vega 10. As far as I know nothing is known besides speculation on Vega 11.
And OS upgrades that slow machines down... kill switches... planned obsolescence...Just imagine what would happen with an Apple car !!! New Order - Glue and Solder.
[doublepost=1490291059][/doublepost]Proprietary parts/connectors... security screws and bolts...
Maybe it really is a God-send titan was buried.
Probably 2H19. ( Intel does about 5-6 years. ). The 'used' market will be around a bit more.
An example Xeon 5590 Intro 2009 , last tray 2015 ( ~6 years ).
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Xeon/Intel-Xeon W5590 - AT80602000753AA (BX80602W5590).html
The 2600v2 was intro. 2013 so a like date is in 2019 timeframe. A 'safe' date would be in late 2018 (if get too close to 'last day' the prices may creep higher temporarily. 'New' will start to become a 'rare find' after they stop shipping trays.) .
Example.
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Xeon/Intel-Xeon E5-2690 v2.html
Shoot me now.
They need to stop selling iOS as a complete replacement for an actual OS. Who are the people who want this? I want to meet them so I can slap some sense into them.
Couldn't agree more. For the average CONSUMER, yes it would be sufficient-creators and producers are in a completely different sphere. Having a backend file storage system where you could essentially have your data and then have two different OS's to manipulate data is something I feel is where they are headed, but we still need our workhorses.
I can't tell you how maddening it is to try to build from scratch in AutoCAD for iOS versus using AutoCAD for Mac on an actual Mac. It's not just actual power when rendering and calculating, as much as it is the input and precision options that you have on an actual Mac. Having a docking/"core" is still interesting, but we need the "power/high computing" scenario in contrast to an economical iOS solution.
Seriously at that point just get an iPad with a keyboard case and let Apple install/enable the "phone" app for calls... it's not like anyone would hold the thing to their ear these days, between the speakers and AirPods/ear phones it's totally reasonable.
I can't tell you how maddening it is to try to build from scratch in AutoCAD for iOS versus using AutoCAD for Mac on an actual Mac. It's not just actual power when rendering and calculating, as much as it is the input and precision options that you have on an actual Mac. Having a docking/"core" is still interesting, but we need the "power/high computing" scenario in contrast to an economical iOS solution.
Seriously at that point just get an iPad with a keyboard case and let Apple install/enable the "phone" app for calls... it's not like anyone would hold the thing to their ear these days, between the speakers and AirPods/ear phones it's totally reasonable.
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Yikes, that's awful. But probably a sign of Apple's intent to some day phase out macOS and "wean" people off laptops.
I should have typed Rx 4XX (where 'x' is the wildcard to mean over the whole range. ) I don't think AMD intends for "RX" to cover 'top to bottom'. If they do then there is tons of empty slots at the moment.
Nothing points to non iGPU Vega being pointed at dGPU mobile. All of AMD's slide decks on Vega don't particularly say much of anything about major mobile issues. In my book, mobile is part of "top to bottom".
Vega 10 - high-end
Vega 11 - Mid-Range(GTX 1070/1080 level of performance).
This year we are supposed to see some of Ryzen CPUs with GPUs. They are going to use Vega architecture, so it would account for "sort of top to bottom launch"
Vega 11 is mdrange or iGPU Vega. So far Vega 11 is missing in action in leakage into most drivers (last I did a scan). Again this goes to "how much time". Intermediate term it looks like Polaris is holding up the "affordable" mid range.
You have to use 12 memory cells to get 512 GB/s bandwidth, with GDDR5X. To get the same effect with HBM2 you have to use just 2 memory stacks
This is just misdirection. the 1070 is in the 200GB bandwidth range. Likewise for Polaris. Yes, if want to go to the very high top end range HBM2 is a better back for the buck. The real issue i that GDDR5 (and somewhat soon GDDR5X) is playing the same role that DDR3, GDDR3 , have played in the lower half of the line up range. Mature tech that uses much of the mature fab and design infrastructure that is already paid for.
HBMv2 is on the other end of the maturity spectrum. No long term high volume track record. Relatively new manufacturing technology that not been paid for already. etc. etc. Yes, HBMv2 is less power but it also comes at substantially higher cost at the moment too. solid "mid-range" and affordable just not its wheelhouse right now.
All the more why it is a bit nonsensical for them to block the whole product line because the a much smaller percentage of very top end GPUs might be blocked. Release a Mac Pro and then over time release some new GPUs to go on time. Actually don't hide in rip-van-winkle mode for years at a time.
When they back themselves into a corner is where there has to be be new Thunderbolt and new GPU and new CPU and new SSD it jacks up the product roll out.
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Just imagine what would happen with an Apple car !!! New Order - Glue and Solder.
New feature, no more oil change! Replace car every 15000km...
There clearly is an angst, and it reaches beyond MacRumors. I think it's interesting that he is a fairly recent convert already jumping, the veterans are still clinging, although losing our grasp.
Stacc, Polaris 20 is the re-spin on Polaris 10, now XTX and XL. Same for Polaris 21, the new Polaris 11 based on LPP. The basis for RX500 series coming up.
Yeah, pretty disappointing that Apple didn't release a Polaris 10/Broadwell-EP mac pro out last summer/fall. They certainly could have. Even if it didn't have TB3 it would have been better than nothing.
Ah, makes sense. Hopefully it sees a bump in efficiency from the new process.
I've already said to myself that I'm building a Hackintosh if there's no new (good) Mac Pro by the end of this year. There's approximately zero chance of me going back to Windows without a fight (inb4 apologists, it's still garbo).
I guess there was no "good enough" GPU lineup available yet, only Polaris based. People would complain that the higher end models would be too weak.
It would be a sign that apple was still committed to the nMP but not the perfect solution.
With SKL and Vega coming up, I believe it's a much better time for the needed upgrade. With these specs you can say it's a tremendous machine, almost perfect.
I believe it will be worth the wait, and that those who left will be back
Polaris will probably see a speed bump and possibly consume less power. AMD can maintain the TDP and up the freq even more. I believe they'll make P10 fit the PCIe specs.
It would be a sign that apple was still committed to the nMP but not the perfect solution.
With SKL and Vega coming up, I believe it's a much better time for the needed upgrade. With these specs you can say it's a tremendous machine, almost perfect.
I believe it will be worth the wait, and that those who left will be back
Polaris will probably see a speed bump and possibly consume less power. AMD can maintain the TDP and up the freq even more. I believe they'll make P10 fit the PCIe specs.
Many companies are eWasting their old servers with E5-2600v2 processors. The eBay market for "server pulls" of Ivy Bridge processors has lots of bargains.
[doublepost=1490307541][/doublepost]Is koyoot in radio silence mode? No response....
I'd love to see the link supporting this claim. Nvidia said almost nothing about consumer Pascal when they launched the P100. The only futures discussed were that P100 chips in PCIe form factor cards would come in Q1CY17 - which they've hit.
It's "alternative facts" to claim that Nvidia blogs last spring talked about the differences between the P100, Telsa and GeForce cards.
https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Editorial/Rumor-Thoughts-NVIDIAs-High-End-Pascal-GPUs
iOS everywhere? Anywhere? As an old-schooler I just want the phone to be a phone, a tablet to be a tablet, and iTunes to be a tunes player.
The education market used to be important, but the young want to play games too. My kid was brought up on iMacs and MacBooks — not the cheap versions. He bought the first iPhone by himself in the family as soon as he could afford it. Then he built a Hackintosh… and eventually dropped OS X. And bought a Samsung phone. The geek in the family is no longer the go-to guy for Apple issues. He’s now Apple nowhere. Maybe this is the future. I registered for this website because I’m too old to change, but maybe I can replace my favorite time-waster (now that my Mac is too underpowered for it) with a new time-waster: a switch.
I have to say that I'm very surprised with the high expectations for the new GPUs of the still invisible nMP update.
We have to realize that in 2013 there were also available better offerings than the Dx00 GPUs, but we got them, not because of TDP or anything, but because this is Apple's method. So please don't expect the best or what will be available because this is not the problem. Apple has no problem with the age of the GPUs, anyway they will undervoltage/underpower them, as it is more possible to just care about their price.
So no matter the current marketing names, Polaris or Vega, or any other star name from AMD, Apple will order what fits their financial ideas and purposes bundled with a super Apple name.
They could also present one MP right now but they don't have enough red color available... one product each time please...
We have to realize that in 2013 there were also available better offerings than the Dx00 GPUs, but we got them, not because of TDP or anything, but because this is Apple's method. So please don't expect the best or what will be available because this is not the problem. Apple has no problem with the age of the GPUs, anyway they will undervoltage/underpower them, as it is more possible to just care about their price.
So no matter the current marketing names, Polaris or Vega, or any other star name from AMD, Apple will order what fits their financial ideas and purposes bundled with a super Apple name.
They could also present one MP right now but they don't have enough red color available... one product each time please...For the gamers out there - "a taller version of the nMP..."
http://wccftech.com/corsair-one-preorder-ready/
http://wccftech.com/corsair-one-preorder-ready/