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Haven't you heard? they just said, Hello again...
Mostly hot air. LG did not intend post an announcement of an Apple product. No sane Apple contractor is going to do that. The hand waving that Applesinsider had was this
"... and talked about its partnerships, including its alignment with Apple. ..."
Probably someone at LG marketing/sales meant to do that by dropping Apple into the conversation, but probably went over-the-top in mentioning an "iMac". More likely the "iMac' was in there for clickbait gimmick. (Apple probably complained loudly so it wasn't likely wasn't worth it. ) It is highly doubtful they actually have LG executive approval for this stunt.
Alignment with Apple is an Apple product of nothing. If you look at the "link to nowhere" that Appleinsider has there: http://lgdnewsroom.com/products-solutions/tv/5725 It is in the TV product solutions grouping of the press releases. How that specifically links up to an iMac other than hand waving is beyond me. You do know that Apple has a product called "AppleTV" and if it doesn't work with 8K TVs over the long term, then wouldn't that be a product problem? Apple needs next gen TVs to try out AppleTV units on. That doesn't mean Apple is going to make TVs under their own brand.
The LG press release with that in it was taken down.
".. Update 7:00 PM PT: LG has since taken down the article mentioning the "iMac 8K." ... "
https://www.macrumors.com/2015/04/06/lg-display-imac-8k/
That you are still falling for it years later is pretty lame. That AppleInsider never added an update to their article is just about equally as lame.
Again Apple engineers in public (on a plane) casually discussing a wide range of details about undisclosed products. Does that really sound like apple folks who want keep their jobs? Did it turn out to be current Apple people? Nope and Nope.
"Fake News" isn't new. Folks have have been writing down 'noise' for a very long time. "Do this pass the common sense sniff test?" is also an available tool to use that is not new.
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As opposed to "just make the screen bigger" how about Apple did something that better fulfilled the mission the original iMac had. Better entry-mid range desktop for most of the people in the desktop market??????? The 21.5" iMac has been getting decidedly slow, 'trickle down' upgrades over the last couple of iterations.
Right now the entry iMac is a non-Retina, gimped MBA processor .... lagging far behind the times decidedly "not the best product Apple is capable of" product. How about they fix that for good in 2018?
That "20th anniversary Mac" kind of gimmicky stuff is exactly the kind of thing Jobs nuked when he got back, because honestly it doesn't do Apple any good. The Cube was backsliding to NeXT cube nostalgia, but was/is not a regular thing. Apple doesn't need another publicity gimmick system. They need to put move value into the systems they already are selling. Do that and then, if have copious spare time, work on gimmick, limited release products.
If Apple wants to primarily make the whole system as a "except for maybe some DIMMs" system then they have to do that on a regular basis. Not sit around sliding and coasting on some "can't innovate may ass" dog-and-pony show from years ago. If not doing anything, then not innovating.
I have to say that I'm very surprised with the high expectations for the new GPUs of the still invisible nMP update.
We have to realize that in 2013 there were also available better offerings than the Dx00 GPUs, but we got them, not because of TDP or anything, but because this is Apple's method. So please don't expect the best or what will be available because this is not the problem. Apple has no problem with the age of the GPUs, anyway they will undervoltage/underpower them, as it is more possible to just care about their price.
So no matter the current marketing names, Polaris or Vega, or any other star name from AMD, Apple will order what fits their financial ideas and purposes bundled with a super Apple name.
Exactly! To sum it up: It's about Apple, and it always has been about Apple. You may think it's about what customers want, but you would be wrong. Apple mastered the dark art of emotional marketing to harvest profit from niche $$ market segments it identifies as "lucrative". Apple did this by making hard to understand tech products understandable, and "personal". Phil Shriller even feels the need to dissuade customers from incorrectly referring to "The iPhone". Simply "iPhone" is the correct form, just as you would address your friend by name. iPod->iPhone has been the single "mass market" grand slam exception of their existence. When smartphones become commonplace commodity market items, Apple will fade back into its traditional position of a single digit market share player. Or even worse, because:
The real rub about the Mac Pro situation is it positioned Apple at the "High $$$ End" of the "power desktop" computing market segment. This position essentially was a "pillar" of support for their marketing strategy. Now that support pillar is gone. The other remaining pillar is "slick" laptops, which is also crumbling - especially when Apple sacrificed max memory configurations for a few millimeters of "thinness".
It may (probably) be that Apple realizes it cannot survive the commoditization of its existing "High End" market positions, which is why we see watches, TVs, and (hear about) "non-cars" in their "exciting things in the pipeline" propaganda.
But the Mac Pro situation cannot be spun as anything other than a complete failure.
As the pillars that support Apple's marketing strategy crumble, so does Apple.
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You may be right! I was driving down Sunset Blvd and noticed a media barrage by Apple! All the billboards pointed to a 7,1 nnMP etc.
Then the teaser ended!
Mr. Cook you are indeed Ebenezer Scrooge!
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Yes, it's "Sunset" for Apple pro users.
With Vega coming up soon, and with different mem tiers, the lineup could be forged.
I'm still confident we'll see it soon.
Although, since there was no TB2D and no TB3D to go with either the current nMP and the future 7.1, things get shady.
[doublepost=1490484036][/doublepost]X299 is close. HEDT coming up so maybe Xeon a bit later:
https://videocardz.com/67610/intel-core-i7-7740k-and-asrock-x299-professional-gaming-i7-spotted
I'm still confident we'll see it soon.
Although, since there was no TB2D and no TB3D to go with either the current nMP and the future 7.1, things get shady.
[doublepost=1490484036][/doublepost]X299 is close. HEDT coming up so maybe Xeon a bit later:
https://videocardz.com/67610/intel-core-i7-7740k-and-asrock-x299-professional-gaming-i7-spotted
You'll maybe see it for Windows/Linux and Hackintoshes.
From Apple, not likely.
Unless Apple abandons the failed MP6,1 cylinder and comes out with some expandable tower systems.
If 4GB, 8GB and 16GB tiers are indeed possible those could be D310, D510 and D710.
Even HBM2 being more expensive, and also considering the interposer, the card design is simpler since no mem traces are needed. The 3 cards would be very much the same, only the GPU would differ. And I guess making those Dx00 cards now is not cheap either, with the "old" GPUs.
They might do a P20 for the entry level though, for those who don't need Vega power.
Even HBM2 being more expensive, and also considering the interposer, the card design is simpler since no mem traces are needed. The 3 cards would be very much the same, only the GPU would differ. And I guess making those Dx00 cards now is not cheap either, with the "old" GPUs.
They might do a P20 for the entry level though, for those who don't need Vega power.
The 2010 cmp is starting to show its age. I really wish something would come soon. I can hold out another year, but after that, I am building something.
I had a crazy dream (I know, I know) That 2 announcements were made:
- updated nMP w quad GPUs
- relaunched Lisa as a nMP PCIe expansion chassis (connected via some high speed tech like NVLink) over a custom cable to the nMP. It was basically a standalone (rack or tower) box with tons of slots, power, cooling, and storage.
Yeah, gotta lay off the spicy food before bedtime.
- updated nMP w quad GPUs
- relaunched Lisa as a nMP PCIe expansion chassis (connected via some high speed tech like NVLink) over a custom cable to the nMP. It was basically a standalone (rack or tower) box with tons of slots, power, cooling, and storage.
Yeah, gotta lay off the spicy food before bedtime.
How about something more pertinent?
How about:
Where will Apple be 10 years from now?
Apple will be an emoji empire.
With Apple Watch bands monopoly. Ah, and you'll be able to buy iPad Pro and Apple Watch (Pro of course) in red.
It will be one product - the 12.9" Apple Watch.
Someone could start a poll thread, with the question being:
Where are you at in the Kubler-Ross stages of grief over the loss of the ability to buy a powerful Macintosh computer?
1) Denial - "Can there be any doubt that the main content of the Timmy/Trump meeting was that Tim needed to Make Apple Great Again by re-introducing a GREAT MacX, which would sell bigly."
2) Anger - "I have a massive wad of cash just waiting to send to Apple, but they refuse to produce a machine that is a worthy trade for my cash. Are there no capitalist pigs at Apple willing to take my money? Ahhhh!"
3) Bargaining - "Even if they updated their current crappy offering with slight specs bumps, at least it would be SOMETHING I could spend my hard earned money on."
4) Depression - This is cyclical, but most severe after every press release for the last 1200 days without an update. Most of us cope by buying another stick of RAM for our 5,1 that we're babying along.
5) Acceptance - Did anyone notice that there was no outcry of frustration after nothing was announced last week when they came out with tweaks to the iPad lineup?
Apple will be the next Sharper Image gadget store, but even more overpriced.
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5) Acceptance
Went through this at my workplace too.
6) Indifference. I don't give money to Apple anymore.
2) Anger they won't release a powerful mac I can game on.
- Where the heck is the Thunderbolt MacBook retina!? My 11" 2012 macbook air has it!
- Argh! They put the wrong color on the front of the red iPhone!
- Where the heck is the Thunderbolt MacBook retina!? My 11" 2012 macbook air has it!
- Argh! They put the wrong color on the front of the red iPhone!