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It was embedded into OS update...

This is done a lot. Displays, Macs, keyboards, etc... Very rarely do you get standalone firmware updates any more.

Even iOS does things like updating the Apple Pencil firmware after iOS updates quietly.
 
This is done a lot. Displays, Macs, keyboards, etc... Very rarely do you get standalone firmware updates any more.

Even iOS does things like updating the Apple Pencil firmware after iOS updates quietly.
I didnt know you can update the pencil.
 
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This is done a lot. Displays, Macs, keyboards, etc... Very rarely do you get standalone firmware updates any more.

Even iOS does things like updating the Apple Pencil firmware after iOS updates quietly.

Keyboards, displays , pencil , screen touch bar , track pad , touch bar, etc. all don't run any other software except for the firmware.

An OS upgrade is to a machine that runs other software, typically for a wide ranging set of operational purposes ( that that 3rd party software supports/enables). While a OS upgrade should have a backup, a firmware update cock-up could brick the whole system (just having a backup and doing a restore is not going to be sufficient to get back to a working system). That is a different level of risk.
 
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Only a couple of days left in which to buy an LG Display at a good price. I guess I'll have to leave them without anything mac-shaped to plug it in to. So wanted a Mac Pro for video editing in Resolve :/ I wonder what the chances of a Thunderbolt 3 4K iMac being released anytime soon. I could hope for an eGPU to come along later.

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A question I've had is if its really supposed to replace system memory, why are all the existing products limited to 4 PCIe lanes? If its supposed to act in this way, shouldn't it be able to consume more? Is this the plan for future products?

It is more so targeting "replace system memory" in context were people are throwing gobs of RAM (and money ) at problems. in those contexts it is more cost effective. ( RAM spent on giant file buffer caches or data or digital samples or etc. )

The desktop m.2 one there aren't more than x4 PCI-e , m.2 type slots.

The DC 4800X is a bit of a puzzle. I suspect two factors. First, that there are more x4 empty slots in targeted environments than something bigger (e.g. x16 or x8 are filled with GPGPU , SAN Networking , etc. ) . Second, that driving up the bandwidth while keeping the latency response low in the controller is a tradeoff. Easy to respond very quickly over 4 lanes than over twice or four times as many lanes. More lanes doesn't necessarily lower the latency ( especially if you only have a highly limited fixed number of packages/chips you are pulling data from. )

For the second the 2.0 versions of the controllers may expand that. It thinks this is get it out there so can fab out version 1.0 at decent volumes move. Not were the tech has the rough edges smoothed off.


The 'pure bandwidth' solution I don't think is really ready for 'prime time' yet. A some point there is suppose to be DIMMs with 3D XPoint. I suspect those will be more expensive and probably have the larger bandwidth because not really PCIe / NVMe controllers.
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... :/ I wonder what the chances of a Thunderbolt 3 4K iMac being released anytime soon. I could hope for an eGPU to come along later.

Please ~

Decent; depending if soon is less than a Quarter.... like weeks away. The CPU-iGPU candidates are already out Gen7. The screens are there from previous iteration. There appears to be a Polaris process bump ( 20 ) due April-May that are high candidates for the 27" iMac ( probably 'stuck' with iGPUs on 21.5" 4K ones.). If Apple can't get an iMac by mid-late June they are long past being a little screwed up.


eGPU I won't bet on this year. Apple is going to need to make major tweak to graphics stack and major low level OS internal upgrades come at glacial pace. ( File system just now getting some limited metadata protections with APFS many years after appearance of ZFS , BTRFS, ReFS ) .


The LG Displays are primarily Mac laptop docking stations..... just like the Thunderbolt Display was primary a laptop docking station. The laptops that they are primarily designed for are already out. ( a TBv3 bump to MacBook is strangely missing, but the LG 4K monitor is exactly designed for the USB over Type-C only docking station the current MacBook needs.)

The iMac and the Mac Pro aren't currently primary target. (nor are they are future primary target. )

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Someone could start a poll thread, with the question being:

Where are you at in the Kubler-Ross stages of grief over the loss of the ability to buy a powerful Macintosh computer?
1) Denial - "Can there be any doubt that the main content of the Timmy/Trump meeting was that Tim needed to Make Apple Great Again by re-introducing a GREAT MacX, which would sell bigly."
2) Anger - "I have a massive wad of cash just waiting to send to Apple, but they refuse to produce a machine that is a worthy trade for my cash. Are there no capitalist pigs at Apple willing to take my money? Ahhhh!"
3) Bargaining - "Even if they updated their current crappy offering with slight specs bumps, at least it would be SOMETHING I could spend my hard earned money on."
4) Depression - This is cyclical, but most severe after every press release for the last 1200 days without an update. Most of us cope by buying another stick of RAM for our 5,1 that we're babying along.
5) Acceptance - Did anyone notice that there was no outcry of frustration after nothing was announced last week when they came out with tweaks to the iPad lineup?

I reached acceptance when the Mac Pro went 1000 days without a refresh. I built a new PC this month which I hope to get OS X running on once I have some time to install it, just to keep me going just long enough to switch fully to linux, with windows as a back-up for certain software and games. If I could build a workstation with off-the-shelf parts, surely Apple could have at some point in the last few years.

Yeah the same people building computers are the same people working on the car project. Really? It is the same when people complain about new watch bands. You HONESTLY think they are pulling people from the COMPUTER division for FASHION?

While that's a neat theory, I've heard way too many news stories about various Mac teams (software and hardware) being reassigned to other product lines over the years to really think Apple is capable of doing more than one thing at a time. Certainly their release schedule seems to confirm it. They are still acting like a tiny company instead of just hiring the manpower to do multiple product lines simultaneously and without conflict. Most companies Apple's size would have entirely separate divisions and management structures. That can certainly be a bad thing, but at least those companies get products shipped.
 
Both of these homes have three bedrooms, so obviously they are the same architecture.
I wanted to come back to this.

Lets look at actual benchmarks of declocked GTX 1080 to GTX 980 Ti levels, and the difference in performance between 2560 CUDA core GPU and 2816 CUDA core GPU, with similar memory bandwidth, and similar core clock.


I hope you will finally watch it fully. Pascal consumer GPUs are Maxwell uArchitecture on 16 nm node. Period.
 

If apple could put one of these chip'zillas in a medium sized case with a normal PCIe GPU that can output two 5K DP 1.3/1.4 signals they would have a Mac Pro resurrection on their hands. Now they just need to figure out how to add a a couple TB3 ports to that configuration.

Perhaps they could add a mediocre mobile GPU to the motherboard that could be used for OpenCL, and drive the required DP signals to the TB3 ports. It could also act as a display signal backup if the primary PCIe GPU dies.
 

Intel might be working on E5 v5 ( Purely platform and Skylake microarchitecture). Intel has been leaking slide decks on this for 1-1.5 years.

it was announced last Fall that some bleeding edge top end cloud customers were getting early editions.

https://www.fool.com/investing/2016/10/30/intel-corporation-begins-sampling-its-game-changin.aspx

From September 2015 .... ".... Skylake comes in 2017. ..."
http://www.itworld.com/article/2985214/hardware/intels-xeon-roadmap-for-2016-leaks.html

The top end core count here is 28. Probably were 4 'spares' in 6 groups of 6 layers. Intel 'spared out' 2-3 core for v4 also. Does mean that Intel is feeling the heat and will need to light all the cores up for probably little less price than they thought.


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If apple could put one of these chip'zillas in a medium sized case with a normal PCIe GPU that can output two 5K DP 1.3/1.4 signals they would have a Mac Pro resurrection on their hands. Now they just need to figure out how to add a a couple TB3 ports to that configuration.

Probably not going to happen. Intel is splitting up the 2+ CPU socket and 1 Workstation socket products. This one isn't going to fit the same socket. Where E5 1600 and 2600 shared that will split and Apple extremely likely won't follow the two soket E5 2xxx sequence. The one socket's second digit will probably change with socket 'split'. E5 1500 or 1900 or something like that.
 
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Have everybody noticed Apple is early releasing new API and Related stuff ahead WWDC, leaaving almost none to annouce at the WWDC opening keynote, maybe they plan to use the event focus to introduce a bunch of new hardware:

  • iPad Pro 12.x
  • iPad Pro 10.x
  • iMac
  • Mac mini?
  • Mac Pro?

  • Also Apple's own VR/AR developments (and its related development platform -here is a chance to see powerful Macs at least, even things like external thuderbolt GPU/Accelerators).
 
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Have everybody noticed Apple is early releasing new API and Related stuff ahead WWDC, leaaving almost none to annouce at the WWDC opening keynote, maybe they plan to use the event focus to introduce a bunch of new hardware:

  • iPad Pro 12.x
  • iPad Pro 10.x
  • iMac
  • Mac mini?
  • Mac Pro?

  • Also Apple's own VR/AR developments (and its related development platform -here is a chance to see powerful Macs at least, even things like external thuderbolt GPU/Accelerators).
I wouldn't mind that. I don't think we've seen new hardware in a WWDC since 2012. Not that no hardware make them boring, the 2013 one was pretty good.
 
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