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Well, in a few hours, Dr. Su will provide clarity on the AMD side of the house, so I'll be closer to deciding on which direction I am going.
 
Page 500 ! Congrats everyone !

Think I'm going to start taking some bets, feel free to PM me your paypal account infos ( not really ) if you wish to partake.

I'm giving

50/50 odds that by page 522, we will start seeing 'F' posts, obituaries, and 'I'm taking my ball, and going home' posts.
10/90 odds that by page 522, we will see a majority of 'I'm glad I waited this long' posts.
75/25 odds that it will be more of the same until page 775.

Deconstruct is already disqualified from betting.
 
What's the probability we'll be seeing the updated Mac Pro announcement at this upcoming WWDC?
 
What's the probability we'll be seeing the updated Mac Pro announcement at this upcoming WWDC?
If we see/hear nothing it doesn’t bode well.

I half expected the LG Displays going off the Apple Store was a positive sign, only days weeks later to see a new LG model show up :/ I would expect Apple to stop suppling LG if their displays were near ready :(

I don’t think they are.

I was also very vocal that we should have heard something around the beginning of April between NAB and the previous 2 years round tables... pretty much thinking if there was silence we’d for sure hear something by WWDC.

I really think I’m in the camp that Apple has dropped the ball again-I’d love to be wrong.
 
Well Mago, a few of the contributors stopped by to say congrats on 500 pgs!

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Well theres always Computex Taiwan

Computex is going on right now; WWDC is a week away...?

Computex gives us a 12C/24T Ryzen 9 CPU, would not mind seeing that in a xMac...

E3 is a week after that, we will get a lot more concrete info on Navi then...

Unless Apple does give us info on the mMP with Navi graphics next week...?
 
That's why Apple is moving to increase services revenue - post-innovation rent-seeking is a great way to uncouple your financial success, from your ability to do anything new, while at the same time consuming oxygen that might sustain a direct competitor, or even a tangental / disruptive business / model that obsolesces your paradigm.

Increased focus on Services is a recognition that the iPhone market has matured, that Apple will need to find a new source of revenue apart from device sales if they are going to continue to grow and raise their stock price.

Apple was the first to ship USB-C with the 2015 Macbook and was the first to ship a plug and play eGPU solution in High Sierra. The iMac Pro is the most compact workstation you can buy today in its class. Apple has innovated, I'm excited to see what they come up with for the new Mac Pro.

This thread was started almost exactly 3 years ago. It's been a long wait for 7,1.

Apple's apparent disinterest in its flagship Mac has been frankly astonishing to me.

"The new Mac mini is almost certainly coming" is 602 pages and still going strong from Dec 2013 and Apple has released two minis since then.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/the-new-mac-mini-is-almost-certainly-coming.1681773/

We can beat 'em, change the 7 to an 8 and this thread can go on for 100s more pages.
 
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Well, in a few hours, Dr. Su will provide clarity on the AMD side of the house, so I'll be closer to deciding on which direction I am going.

After watching some of the presentation I can't see how Apple will not go with AMD hardware, PCIE4 adds Up-to 69% better graphics performance for graphics with PCIe Gen4 over PCIe Gen3

Computex is going on right now; WWDC is a week away...?

Computex gives us a 12C/24T Ryzen 9 CPU, would not mind seeing that in a xMac...

E3 is a week after that, we will get a lot more concrete info on Navi then...

Unless Apple does give us info on the mMP with Navi graphics next week...?

Ryzen 9 3900X & $499

12 cores/24 threads, 4.6GHz boost, 3.8GHz base, 70MB cache, 105W TDP

18% faster than i9-9920X for Blender

"The company demoed its brand new server chips in action running a biophysics benchmark, specifically NAMD Apo1 v2.12, where EPYC delivered more than double the performance of the Intel alternative. Although admittedly the company showed a dual socket 64 core x2 system versus a dual socket 28 core x2 Intel Cascade Lake system. If anything this could indicate that AMD is looking to deeply undercut big blue on pricing."
 
Increased focus on Services is a recognition that the iPhone market has matured, that Apple will need to find a new source of revenue apart from device sales if they are going to continue to grow and raise their stock price.

Especially when they have nothing to offer in the markets where all the growth is - premium VR-Capable upgradable PCs, tablets that can run desktop applications with proper peripheral and filesystem support, and affordable phones.

Apple was the first to ship USB-C with the 2015 Macbook and was the first to ship a plug and play eGPU solution in High Sierra. The iMac Pro is the most compact workstation you can buy today in its class. Apple has innovated, I'm excited to see what they come up with for the new Mac Pro.

Welcome to dongletown, which also coincided with garbage keyboards, that turned Apple's laptop line into a laughing stock, from its previous place as THE best made laptop, even for Windows users.

Also, USB-C is still a dumpsterfire of incompatibility, asterisks and failure.

As for the vaunted eGPU support - Windows laptops with onboard dual GTX 1080s have around double the graphics horsepower of the top of the line iMac Pro, there are slim laptops the size of Apple's, that have better graphics performance than any macbook will get with an eGPU and you can take that performance with you.

Crowing about Apple's eGPU implementation is like bragging about how wonderful the choices for prosthetic legs are - ignoring that you have to amputate your healthy flesh legs first.
 
...that turned Apple's laptop line into a laughing stock, from its previous place as THE best made laptop, even for Windows users.

Reminds me: a couple years ago you could really see MBP's everywhere - in public and also in my line of work (which is mostly Windows-based) - people were buying them to run Windows as the main OS.

Is this still a thing in general or has everyone moved on? Without the glowing logo on the lid it has become harder to spot them but it kinda feels like their numbers are dwindling in favour of Lenovo's slim models wherever I look.
 
I'd be happy with

Swing door like PowerMac G4
1 PCIE slot is all I need tbh
2-4 m.2 slots

The last point shows how important internal storage is for video users. Having all the storage outside is risky if there is disconnection or tripped/pulled cable.
 
Well then the 2013 Mac Pro and 2017 iMac Pro as shown at their respective WWDCs were also "vaporware" as they were not shown on stage as a physical, working product and no one was allowed to actually touch them to benchmark performance after the keynote.
The tube Mac Pro was demoed on stage after the keynote. There was a ~1-hour session were a 3D modeler was using it. I can't find the video, but it was called "sculpting the universe" or something similar.
 
What's the probability we'll be seeing the updated Mac Pro announcement at this upcoming WWDC?
Rumor space is still void a week before WWDC. Bad sign!
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I think that this is not an indication.
i.e. The last MBPs were a "surprise"...
The MBP was a small speck bump. Mr. Spock: Most logically, we will see a spec bump from cheese grater.
 
If these end up being Xeons with AMD graphics I'll hate myself for not moving to PC sooner. Threadripper & Nvidia or the Mac is history for my studio.
 
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That's why Apple is moving to increase services revenue - post-innovation rent-seeking is a great way to uncouple your financial success, from your ability to do anything new, while at the same time consuming oxygen that might sustain a direct competitor, or even a tangental / disruptive business / model that obsolesces your paradigm.

That and an increased effort in content creation and content control .

It just appears like Apple are late to the party again, and throwing money at things without having a coherent concept .

I think it is also very likely that the political landscape will continue to shift towards increased enforcement of anti-trust laws, a strenghtening of user privacy and usage rights regulations, and an overhaul of tax policies .
Even in the US .
Not to mention the 'trade wars' , which might be short lived but could well have a lasting impact beyond the expected 1-2 decades .

All of which doesn't bode well for companies like Apple, who are strongly affected by all of the above, especially if their core hardware business keeps getting less relevant and their products concentrate on increasingly smaller market segments .
 
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