I dare bet all them modules are locked down with t2 secruity of some sort as well, so no adding your own DIY upgrades later.
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MP 7,1 Waiting for Mac Pro 7,1 A1991 (no more)
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Like the iMac Pro two years ago, they will have full-core press events later on where all the details will be revealed.
Or buy from Velocity Micro and get a 16 core, 128Gb ram boxen for around $4,700.
Apple knows most people will purchase that base configuration and DIY upgrade it, let's see what tricked GPU lock includes, BTW at least this time apple heared user's complaints.
I am so dang happy right now! My only critique is the lack of NVIDIA support, but they seem to have some great alternatives. Hope that comes later, but at least they delivered in EVERY OTHER WAY! So great!
Oh, but that base price is asinine... At least it's user-upgradable though!
Oh, but that base price is asinine... At least it's user-upgradable though!
I'm having trouble finding the prices that show that it's over a grand more. It's seems to be less.
They shouldn't offer such a terrible starting spec. It can be outperformed by any new iMac for half the price (excluding the afterburner card)
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Ahh, that is a good point. Will still have to get CPU through apple.
Ok, this thing is out of my league, will stick with a cheaper MacBook Pro. Good luck to all those who can afford it.
I was right on the Cheese Grater though! Woo Hoo!
I was right on the Cheese Grater though! Woo Hoo!
I feel that at $5999 it should at the very least match the spec of the base iMac Pro. So 1TB SSD, and equivalent GPU.
To me it’s unpalatable.
The Pro Stand at $999 beggars belief...
To me it’s unpalatable.
The Pro Stand at $999 beggars belief...
Completely agree. And the iMac Pro is giving you an included 5K display as well. It won't be shipping until Fall, so hopefully either (1) it becomes clear that the value is worthwhile due to other features/functions, and/or (2) they adjust the price or config after gauging potential buyer feedback.
iMacs have outperformed Pro Macs for years at this point. If you don’t see the point of what you’re getting for the extra money, you’re not the target market.
Given all the people complaining about price and saying it’s overpriced, I’d say that’s most of the people in this thread
I got the impression the most common argument was DIY upgrades by pro users were rare ?
Still got to figure out what options there are for RAM and storage , proprietary or not .
It'd help if Apple could figure how to do a stream that can be paused and rewound .
The entry price is off either way, they still try to sell iMac Pros as a viable alternative it seems .
And my god, is that thing ugly .
At least you have your mind intact now.
But these prices...
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MacPro @ WWDC!!!
Why would you say that?iMacs have outperformed Pro Macs for years at this point. If you don’t see the point of what you’re getting for the extra money, you’re not the target market.
Given all the people complaining about price and saying it’s overpriced, I’d say that’s most of the people in this thread
iMacs have outperformed Pro Macs for years at this point. If you don’t see the point of what you’re getting for the extra money, you’re not the target market.
Given all the people complaining about price and saying it’s overpriced, I’d say that’s most of the people in this thread
It's easy to be dismissive about not being the target market, but it's not true. The iMacs have outperformed because the pro Macs are out of date, that's why we've been waiting for years. The base spec is anaemic. I'd expect it is going to be at least $8k to get to a reasonable spec.
https://www.apple.com/mac/
Its added to the top menu now, but still redirected to old Mac Pro page, so, lets see in a minute
Display is already added: https://www.apple.com/pro-display-xdr/
Its added to the top menu now, but still redirected to old Mac Pro page, so, lets see in a minute
Display is already added: https://www.apple.com/pro-display-xdr/
Well you are paying for the R&D and production costs that went into it and the W 3000 Xeons in the Mac Pro are going to be more expensive at similar core counts to the W 2000 Xeons in the iMac Pro. The Skylake 28-core Xeon is $2999 and I expect the Mac Pro will be using the newer Cascade Lake models scheduled for shipment later this year.
And yes, on the surface $1000 for a stand sounds insane, but it's a pretty impressive stand and hell, Sony looks to be asking a couple hundred for a basic plastic stand with no height-adjustment or rotation capability (and not sure even tilt) for their $43,000 reference monitor.
No, I mean you get faster performance for less with i7 and i9 processors, but those are only options if you don’t care about sustained workloads, ECC RAM, expandability, and thermals in the Mac’s case.
Xeon workstations are expensive.
iMacs have outperformed Pro Macs for years at this point. If you don’t see the point of what you’re getting for the extra money, you’re not the target market.
Given all the people complaining about price and saying it’s overpriced, I’d say that’s most of the people in this thread
All four previous Mac Pro generations/revisions (2006, 2008, 2009/10/12, 2013) have been in the $2000-3000 range, and were plenty powerful at the time of their introduction. This is TWICE the high end of that range, w/ no apparent option to get down below $5999 (remember the 2006 could be down-configured w/ 2.0GHz for $2200 or something close to that). People wanting or needing an expandable and configurable system needn't be labeled "not in the target market" just because they are having a hard time accepting the "extra money" being twice what all previous iterations have commanded...
Good grief..
You people complain for what ? NINE years and finally when Apple delivers all you do is complain about price.
You people complain for what ? NINE years and finally when Apple delivers all you do is complain about price.