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New Mac Pro in every sense of the word... makes sense to me, aesthetically and price-wise. These are, after all, "workstations" (not just a HEDT) and so, you probably need to be in the "field" and have a specific "workflow" to want/need/afford this puppy! Like, a pro making pro-money.

This Mac Pro really distinguishes one from the "wannabe pros" to the real, I'm actually making money on what I do "Pros."

Save the 1%-ers who will buy one to browse Macrumors and Facebook along with the new XDR Pro Display...
 
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I found this blurb on the ‘design’ page of the Mac Pro:

360 degrees of access.

A single entry point wasn’t enough. Remove the aluminum housing and you have total access to the system. The logic board is dual-sided, making it easy to add and remove components. Processor, graphics, and expansion on one side. Storage and memory on the other. Mac Pro is ready for customization when you are.
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Apple touting customization. When was the last time THAT happened?
 
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Oh, now I realize why it seems familiar. The new Mac Pro reminds me of an old eSATA caldigit chassis I had back in the day. Same type of handles.
 
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namethisfile said:
New Mac Pro in every sense of the word... makes sense to me, aesthetically and price-wise. These are, after all, "workstations" (not just a HEDT) and so, you probably need to be in the "field" and have a specific "workflow" to want/need/afford this puppy! Like, a pro making pro-money.

This Mac Pro really distinguishes one from the "wannabe pros" to the real, I'm actually making money on what I do "Pros."

Save the 1%-ers who will buy one to browse Macrumors and Facebook along with the new XDR Pro Display...
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What would you define pro-money as?
 
AdamSeen said:
What would you define pro-money as?
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Probably in the neighborhood of $40k a month on a freelance basis... so, swallowing say $20k on new MP and display plus that 8k stream card enables them to still afford rent/pay mortgage, go out every night and have a few cocktails... etc....
 
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AdamSeen said:
Yes, that is very concerning. You won't be able to put your own graphics cards in without a mod
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A 300W 8 pin PCIe power is provided for the upper slots.


wallysb01 said:
$6K for the 8-core CPU, no. $6K for a 20+ core, yes.

The platform looks very advanced, e.g. 8-PCIe slots, 12 DIMMs, etc, but wow. Base configuration should be higher, or the upgrade prices need to not be the typical apple standard gouging. This 8-core is very near the bottom end processor for the 3000 series. Likely the 3223 or 3225. The 2123 was $300, 2125 was $450. Kind of nuts for the processor to cost <10% of the system...
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Sadly, the base 8 core chip seems to be a skylake part according to the RAM speed:





And there are also two suspicious looking SATA? ports on the Internal IO panel, along with a USB-A port.
 

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namethisfile said:
Probably in the neighborhood of $40k a month on a freelance basis... so, swallowing say $20k on new MP and display plus that 8k stream card enables them to still afford rent/pay mortgage, go out every night and have a few cocktails... etc....
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It makes sense for sure, lots of guys are able to pull between 25-40k/mo freelancing.
 
sn1p3r845 said:
It makes sense for sure, lots of guys are able to pull between 25-40k/mo freelancing.
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And they’ll buy it on their business account as a tool for their business. The pricing for them is probably a surprise as I bet they thought it it would cost more?
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Dean Yu said:
A 300W 8 pin PCIe power is provided for the upper slots.



Sadly, the base 8 core chip seems to be a skylake part according to the RAM speed:





And there are also two suspicious looking SATA? ports on the Internal IO panel, along with a USB-A port.
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Well in that case then, I can see people trying to get Nvidia cards working in it when it’s launched.. If Mac OS supports it?
 
namethisfile said:
Probably in the neighborhood of $40k a month on a freelance basis... so, swallowing say $20k on new MP and display plus that 8k stream card enables them to still afford rent/pay mortgage, go out every night and have a few cocktails... etc....
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Thank you for revealing that. I wonder if the freelancing rates are lower in the UK doing the same work. As I haven't heard of many pulling in over $1.8k a day for video/photography/programming.
 
zephonic said:
I feel that at $5999 it should at the very least match the spec of the base iMac Pro. So 1TB SSD, and equivalent GPU.

To me it’s unpalatable.

The Pro Stand at $999 beggars belief...
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But your missing the point, unless you want to take your screen off, you can’t upgrade the iMac Pro’s CPU... with the Mac Pro you can... we will have to see about storage.
 
CWallace said:
Upgrading to a Xeon Gold 6244 8-Core is $5600 on the HP Z6. And yes, I will spot you the Gold is designed for multi-processor systems (and you can have two in a Z6 - the second will run you almost $6500) whereas the W-3225 is only for single-CPU systems. And that Z6 maxes out at 384GB (a $13,000 upgrade, I might add) and each AMD W9100 is $1750 (if you want to-end nVidia, those go to almost $7500 a piece).

So yes, the Mac Pro is expensive to start and will no doubt be very expensive at the top, but it's not out of line with Tier 1 PC OEMs like HP and Dell.
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The 6244 is a weird one in the SP line up. Very odd choice that isn't really useful here.

And I just purchased and configured a Dell 7920 with duel 6130s (previous generation). I'm very familiar with the options out there and how this Mac Pro differentiates itself (looks like it does have more expandability than most single socket systems). But still $6K, 8-core, 32GB, 256GB is a way more than bit nuts.
 
AdamSeen said:
Thank you for revealing that. I wonder if the freelancing rates are lower in the UK doing the same work. As I haven't heard of many pulling in over $1.8k a day for video/photography/programming.
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$900-1,800 a day here means you're a very skilled editor for film studios or a VFX artist whose actual poo could be considered a rare metal.

Here is California.
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Jony Ive spotted

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All three of him. My word he's fattened up.
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ssgbryan said:
Fortunately, AMD workstations aren't quite so expensive - they also use ECC ram and have more PCIe lanes to boot.
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The only bad thing about Zen uarch I've read is about latency with certain live audio production software. Though when I looked into it, I found myself looping about the net and couldn't find much concrete info.
 
wallysb01 said:
But still $6K, 8-core, 32GB, 256GB is a way more than bit nuts.
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Yes, it should have had 1TB of SSD storage with 2TB and 4TB being the options. 256GB is just going to be "slow" due to having a single module.

Also with 32GB of RAM, they cannot be filling all 12 DIMM slots. 48GB would have made more sense (12x4GB).
 
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Dean Yu said:
Sadly, the base 8 core chip seems to be a skylake part according to the RAM speed:

And there are also two suspicious looking SATA? ports on the Internal IO panel, along with a USB-A port.
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Looks like a perfect match to Cascade Lake W: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-xeon-cascade-lake-w-3000-series-specs,39278.html

Its not uncommon for Intel to drop the max RAM speeds supported on the lower end SKUs. They have done this with Xeon SP line the last two generations, but not with the W line.... maybe something about 2933 necessitated this as a cost cutting move to hit a price point...?
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CWallace said:
Yes, it should have had 1TB of SSD storage with 2TB and 4TB being the options. 256GB is just going to be "slow" due to having two 128GB modules compared to having two 512MB.

Also with 32GB of RAM, they cannot be filling all 12 DIMM slots. 48GB would have made more sense (12x4GB).
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Storage was a pretty cheap shot. Yes. RAM is weird. 4x8 leaves two lanes unoccupied. They should have 6x4 or 6x8. 24GB is low, so 48GB it should be, but 6x8 would be cheaper than 12x4 and would have the same performance. 4x8 will leave performance on the table.
 
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