I have to say. I laughed my ass off with this. First, did you gave any evidence to credit your claims.
All you did is Trumpish: "People say..."
As you do so many time....
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MP 7,1 Waiting for Mac Pro 7,1 A1991 (no more)
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As you do so many time....
Not what we need for the nMP but still good to know they're coming already:
http://wccftech.com/kaby-lake-xeon-e3-1200-v6-lineup/
http://wccftech.com/kaby-lake-xeon-e3-1200-v6-lineup/
There is little to indicate that here is DP 1.3 here.
1). If look at current set of Ultrawide monitors from LG there have USB and DP input sockets.
http://www.lg.com/us/ultrawide-monitors
This new one clearly could also. DP v1.2 input and a USB 3.0 hub controller for USB 3.1 ( on a Type C socket; just because Type c is present doesn't mean there has to be DisplayPort signal in alternative mode. ) Most GPUs that will be connected to this monitor only have DP ports.... not Type C.
2) The resolution here 3,840 x 1,600 ( max in the 38" model) is inside the bounds of DP v1.2. There is no "force" here to DP 1.3 on pure bandwidth. ( DP v1.2 can do 3,840 x 2160). This is still a "chopped down" 4K screen.
Because they can do that later after they have sold these in volume.
Any evidence that they did do that jump?
There is no USB-C DP 1.3 5K anywhere in what LG announced today.
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Steve Jobs was no Tony Stark. Stark can make things ( made the iron suit in a cave by himself). Steve Jobs was more a master illusionist/pitch man super powers. A variation of Professor X perhaps.
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On top of that .... does the Mac Pro even make Apple's Leadership weekly product status reports anymore? A chart with the rest of the rest of Mac line up sales volume on the same relative scale as the Mac Pro sales.
Why does the Mac Pro have a deep need a docking station? Apple hasn't made a dedicated display in over a decade. Doubtful they are going to start back up in a segment they left a long time ago.
It would make more sense for Apple to release a docking station with a system that could leverage that on a desktop.
More on Kaby Lake:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10610...s-six-notebook-skus-desktop-coming-in-January
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-7th-gen-core-kaby-lake-preview,4728.html
http://wccftech.com/intel-launches-7th-generation-14nm-processors-featuring-kaby-lake-architecture/
A new macOS beta is out. Any news?
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10610...s-six-notebook-skus-desktop-coming-in-January
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-7th-gen-core-kaby-lake-preview,4728.html
http://wccftech.com/intel-launches-7th-generation-14nm-processors-featuring-kaby-lake-architecture/
A new macOS beta is out. Any news?
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Funny because he has actual sources that he quotes in detail?
Having sources is very rare on this board.
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I would seriously question the integrity of the author if he bases said article solely on a MacRumors forum as this one does. A lot more reputable sources available with real world scenarios. Such as Larry Jordan for instance. For real world scenarios check out FCP.CO which is described the nMP in Movies, TV series and so on.
http://www.fcp.co/final-cut-pro/art...aw-for-the-forever-project-in-final-cut-pro-x
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Well, Larry Jordan is a FCP evangelist.
My personal experience has been very different.
At one shop where I work we've been through two nMP in two years. One of them went back for service due to the GPU recall. The other experienced a GPU failure (D700/12c).
At a different company we are on our second unit (D700/12c) in 1 year.
All machines were used heavily with processor / GPU intensive applications.
There was an article a few months back where they had burned through multiple nMP cutting either Focus or Whiskey, Tago, Foxtrot.
It also runs on more than just a nMP.
Everybody's personal experience tends to be different. Including the ones who have no trouble using theirs everyday,
Obviously not every nMP ever shipped is experiencing problems. But just because you are not experiencing problems with nMP units does it mean that other people aren't. You're not alone in the world.
In 25 years in this business I have only seen one system fail more than the nMP and that was the SGI 320 and it had some serious technical design flaws. nMP failure (usually the GPU) is not an uncommon occurrence, which is why a lot of people stopped buying them in post production (that's aside from it being a closed system and having a poor price performance ratio).
Seeing 2-3 failures for a model in a single year is unusual and we are talking about machines that are no more than 2-3 years old. That's not normal. And I a not alone in that experience. My colleagues have seen nMP units fail at a higher than average rate and it appears to be occurring often enough that the machine has gained a reputation for unreliability.
Something is rotten in Denmark and whistling through the graveyard is not going to make the problem go away.
2-3 failures? I suspect its much higher than that. If it would really be that way, we virtually would not need any kind of return policy on any computer. I suspect most companies, even though they would never tell their customers, is they have an acceptable failure rate per month or year. Most likely based on percentage. The more products they build, the higher number is likely to fail. The number of failures would be covered in the return policy, which is why we have them in the first place.
To know that, we really need to see the number of failures per total produced. Information that any company is not likely to make public. Basing these numbers on hear say, your circle of friends, colleagues is not accurate by any count.
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It's pretty clear that the MP6,1 is having failure rates that are far above average - especially ATI GPU failures.
But, you say that we need "Information that any company is not likely to make public".
So, you're saying that until Apple says that "the MP6,1 is crap" we have to believe that it's perfect?
That's crap, and for too many people the MP6,1 is crap.
Show the numbers that indicate its above average compared to the average PC, anything else is just speculation.
Perfect was never mentioned, only as a focal point for the extreme detractors.
No need. I read the same article last year. Its just as bad then as it is now.
"Apple quietly launches Mac Pro (Late 2013) Repair Program for graphics card/video issues"
https://9to5mac.com/2016/02/06/apple-mac-pro-repair-program-graphics-video/
Points to higher than normal failure rates.
My point was exactly that only Apple knows those numbers, and Apple is not letting us know. Whether it's a failure rate of 1 out of 100, or 90 out of 100 - Apple will not say.
I think you're correct, @AidenShaw. Below are long lists of new Mac Pro frustrated users' complains on problems with lock ups, artifacts on rendering. Some threads are 2 years old and no clear solution yet. There was a time I was using a new Mac Pro in my client's studio and I encountered lockups in renderings.
I think Apple's plate is full at the moment since they still need to update the other Mac laptops, Mac Mini, iMac before they would release a 7.1 nMac Pro. But another factor is, Apple has been replacing the current nMac Pros with GPUs and even replacing the entire computer. That adds up to company overhead expenses and eats up profits earned from past sales. Every new replacement released, GPU or a new machine is money going out. Probably for now Apple will hold off releasing a 7.1 machine until they find a solution with current hardware design of the 6.1 nMac Pro. And if they release a 7.1 nMac Pro, how would the users market respond this time is another factor Apple may be studying.
https://forums.adobe.com/thread/1479459
https://forums.adobe.com/thread/1422947
https://forum.blackmagicdesign.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=41516
https://forum.blackmagicdesign.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=30024
https://forum.blackmagicdesign.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=30024&start=100
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6848249?start=0&tstart=0
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6030525?tstart=0
http://www.digitalproductionme.com/article-9069-apple-mac-pro-users-feel-the-heat/
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6691532?tstart=0
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6369580?start=0&tstart=0
When you see and hear about failure rates that high on a three year old machine sold in relatively small numbers you don't need a survey to see that something is obviously wrong. It's a common topic on industry boards, on this board and in the press.
Well the problem is nMac Pro didn't even updated for almost 3 years. There are no Mac products didn't updated for more than 2 years. Even old Mac pro took less than 2 years to update which is still slow updating. 3 years? Wow. And they still selling at the same price on 2013. They MUST update nMac Pro in Oct or we have to wait till next year. Apple need to improve a lot of things for Mac Pro seriously.
WOW WTH. Didn't even know that HP build workstation computer like that.
The spec of HP is unbeatable... 24 CPU cores, 2tb ram(WHAT???), more expansions, and cheaper...
Well that's rather weird because if you click on that config "buy now" > "more options" and you view details on every config, you can't find those same specs...
First Microsoft with Surface Pro 4, now HP with Z... it's like the Apple Airplane co. was shot in the sky with a slingshot (Apple brand) when Tim became a skipper, and it was calculated to stay in the sky as long as he gets his stock bonus... but now the plane is stalling. Time to take the golden parachute?
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Apple in previous years did similar thing. Today, because their hardware is so outdated, they get what they asked for. Mocking from other companies.
