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Unless Pokemon GO can be integrated into a Mac, I think we're F-ed.

Did Apple really spend almost 10 minutes talking about Pokemon on Apple watch, or did I get warped into the Idiocracy universe?
You actually paid attention to that snooze fest? These Apple events are so predictable and so boring. I am amazed how many people continue to fawn over them each and every time they hold one. As if there's something earth shattering. This event was nothing but hyping what other manufacturers consider normal product improvements.
 
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Let's wait for the benchmarks to appear, but if Apple's ARM chips' performance increase continues unabated, they'll reach parity with x86 in the next five years or so.
 
The 40th Apple anniversary year is so sad till now, we were expecting something more about Macs.
Oh we got Sierra...
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Let's wait for the benchmarks to appear, but if Apple's ARM chips' performance increase continues unabated, they'll reach parity with x86 in the next five years or so.
What's the profit if there is no MP?
 
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Thank you guys for these comments, at least I'm not alone.
It is sad that during every Apple show I have more and more WTF moments. :/ I'm getting older or this company is no longer interested in anything else than just "showing off".
 
Let's wait for the benchmarks to appear, but if Apple's ARM chips' performance increase continues unabated, they'll reach parity with x86 in the next five years or so.
They will hit a wall and if AMD zen is any good Intel may have to take it the next level.
 
The 40th Apple anniversary year is so sad till now, we were expecting something more about Macs.
Oh we got Sierra...
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What's the profit if there are no MP?

Well, the world is ever-changing. Change along with it, or be a sourpuss.

I love my cMP, but if an iPadPro has the same processing power and there are applications that will allow me to accomplish what I need to do, what do I really lose?

We're not there yet, but when we get there, I won't be all that sad to leave point-and-click behind...
 
Well, the world is ever-changing. Change along with it, or be a sourpuss.

I love my cMP, but if an iPadPro has the same processing power and there are applications that will allow me to accomplish what I need to do, what do I really lose?

We're not there yet, but when we get there, I won't be all that sad to leave point-and-click behind...
iPadPro is even worse than the nMP for the exact same reasons the nMP was not well received by many cMP owners.
 
Well, the world is ever-changing. Change along with it, or be a sourpuss.

I love my cMP, but if an iPadPro has the same processing power and there are applications that will allow me to accomplish what I need to do, what do I really lose?

We're not there yet, but when we get there, I won't be all that sad to leave point-and-click behind...

All these are completely hypothetical, many people already find the 64gb of ram limiting for their work, will this super mario ipad provide more? I'd also like to see the cooling method of it, and the expansion ports and the GPUs etc

Anyway the other workstation manufacturers are still ,and will be, producing workstations because people need them to get their job done. If Apple wants/plans to go with the iPads we will see the final results.
 
They will hit a wall and if AMD zen is any good Intel may have to take it the next level.

Perhaps, but to me it seems x86 hit the wall about five years ago. I don't want to discount the possibility of AMD pulling a rabbit out of the hat, but if history is anything to go by, I'd rather not bet the farm on it.

Intel is already moving away from x86. Sure they'll milk it for as long as they can, but you only need to read their press releases to know their focus is on other things now (google it).

The reality is x86 has stagnated, and a few extra cores or new instruction sets aren't going to change that.
 
The only times I remember them mentioning computers is when they were talking about donating a Mac and an iPad to teachers and then they talked about collaboration with iWork.

Apple is now a services and mobile device company where computers are just a part of the Apple ecosystem

Yep. I don't get the bitching and insistence that reality be warped to the needs of a minority. If Apple doesn't offer what you want, there's plenty of other fish in the sea.
 
You actually paid attention to that snooze fest? These Apple events are so predictable and so boring. I am amazed how many people continue to fawn over them each and every time they hold one. As if there's something earth shattering. This event was nothing but hyping what other manufacturers consider normal product improvements.

Well, I check the macrumors front page a couple time while they are going on and read the summary....
 
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Funny how Apple sends such a mixed message about software. Teaching kids swift sure tugs at the heart, but all those hard working macOS developers don't get a proper release announcement in the keynote - they just quietly update the web page with the Sierra available date. Better than El Crap when they faked a "leaked" email - such a stupid slap in the face to software engineers.

But Apple has always been a hardware company - which is why they show such a blatant lack of respect to software development.
[doublepost=1473278161][/doublepost]..oh and about the MP - I'll say it first: 1000 days is effectively here.
 
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You mean their computer users? Hmmm....I seem to recall there was a short period of time when Apple's focus was on computers. Oh yeah, that was 1977 until at least 2007.

I stopped really caring about these events after Apple regressed to Intel processors. With few exceptions (e.g. original iPhoto, iPad) it has been either "WTF" or "yawn" after that.
 
Perhaps, but to me it seems x86 hit the wall about five years ago. I don't want to discount the possibility of AMD pulling a rabbit out of the hat, but if history is anything to go by, I'd rather not bet the farm on it.

Intel is already moving away from x86. Sure they'll milk it for as long as they can, but you only need to read their press releases to know their focus is on other things now (google it).

The reality is x86 has stagnated, and a few extra cores or new instruction sets aren't going to change that.
The concern is not that x86 hasn't seen leaps and bounds performance increases. The concern is there have been improvements and those improvements have not made it into the Mac Pro.
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I stopped really caring about these events after Apple regressed to Intel processors. With few exceptions (e.g. original iPhoto, iPad) it has been either "WTF" or "yawn" after that.
Don't get me wrong...I think Apple did a great job with the products they covered today (not all of them but at least the iWatch [despite the fact I don't care about it], the iPhone, and the new ear phones). They're nice updates and they continue to drive the products forward. I just don't see the need for a two hour event to drag out what are essentially evolutionary product improvements. Apple, and those that follow them, treat these events as if some life changing thing is being announced. Maybe if this was the first or second time it happened. But they've been doing this for years.
 
Let's wait for the benchmarks to appear, but if Apple's ARM chips' performance increase continues unabated, they'll reach parity with x86 in the next five years or so.

I'll be dead in five years.





It's a joke. I'll just be drooling.
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I stopped really caring about these events after Apple regressed to Intel processors. With few exceptions (e.g. original iPhoto, iPad) it has been either "WTF" or "yawn" after that.

How did Apple regress to Intel processors?
What does that mean?
 
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I'll be dead in five years.





It's a joke. I'll just be drooling.


If that is the case, ARM's performance should be the least of your worries. ;)
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Perhaps, but to me it seems x86 hit the wall about five years ago. I don't want to discount the possibility of AMD pulling a rabbit out of the hat, but if history is anything to go by, I'd rather not bet the farm on it.

Intel is already moving away from x86. Sure they'll milk it for as long as they can, but you only need to read their press releases to know their focus is on other things now (google it).

The reality is x86 has stagnated, and a few extra cores or new instruction sets aren't going to change that.


In addition, this just in from AMD's press conference this morning:

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Zen is only mentioned in passing. Sure, they tout its 40% performance gain, but they quickly move on to the next thing. It was barely worth a minute in their one-hour presentation.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/10646/ifa-2016-live-blog-of-amd-keynote-with-mark-papermaster-cto


Clearly, x86 is no longer a priority for both its vendors. Make of that what you will.
 
I've been saying x86 should be dead for ages but everyone seems to don't care. How is it possible, even with all the updates in between, that we're using today (yes, 2016) almost 40 years old tech?!
Do we still boot in real mode or protected mode?! :)
Come on.
 
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I've been saying x86 should be dead for ages but everyone seems to don't care. How is it possible, even with all the updates in between, that we're using today (yes, 2016) almost 40 years old tech?!
Do we still boot in real mode or protected mode?! :)
Come on.
Uh...because it works and works well?
 
I've been saying x86 should be dead for ages but everyone seems to don't care. How is it possible, even with all the updates in between, that we're using today (yes, 2016) almost 40 years old tech?!
Do we still boot in real mode or protected mode?! :)
Come on.
UNIX is 10 years older than the 8086.... ;)
 
If that is the case, ARM's performance should be the least of your worries. ;)
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In addition, this just in from AMD's press conference this morning:

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Zen is only mentioned in passing. Sure, they tout its 40% performance gain, but they quickly move on to the next thing. It was barely worth a minute in their one-hour presentation.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/10646/ifa-2016-live-blog-of-amd-keynote-with-mark-papermaster-cto


Clearly, x86 is no longer a priority for both its vendors. Make of that what you will.

AMD's roadmaps for the last ten years or so have been faster that the speed of light.
Maybe that's why we never see the product.

:rimshot
 
You mean their computer users? Hmmm....I seem to recall there was a short period of time when Apple's focus was on computers. Oh yeah, that was 1977 until at least 2007.
And what? You expect a company to spend an inordinate amount of its resources on one of its smallest profit makers?
 
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