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Thanks to Apple, hp welcomed me wth z 840. Not that I wanted to, but it appears Apple been passive with Pro users. Because some people in this forum stated that apple and intel agreement this year already expired....there wouldn't be any xeons.

Our office got Z840s for the same reason, although while my boss rails about "Apple never producing another workstation" the nMPs would work well for our use case (all major storage is networked, use a lot of GPU-accelerated plugins, Adobe software is so crappy that dual processors is completely wasted, all the laptops and field gear were Mac-centric so it woulda' been a lot easier to just plug stuff into a nMP than the pain and horror of trying to get Thunderbolt and TB2 working, et al). But who wants to buy apparently dead-end hardware? Software support is just as much about future trends as it is current hardware, so why should devs put work into fulfilling Apple's vision of computing if they won't?
 
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Grasping at straws, I'll admit.

Some on the site have speculated no component leaks etc. implying no Mac Pro this go around. But since they are now assembled and fabricated in the states with greater "leak control" could we be surprised next Thursday?

And although "No one" claims in his thread "Mac Pro Rising" to have seen components, I really don't buy into his narrative.

Anyway with the discussion of an intel agreement being up and having extremely tight control could apple have something up their sleeve?

And congrats to all the Z-station owners. I imagine I won't be terribly far behind.
 
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Our office got Z840s for the same reason, although while my boss rails about "Apple never producing another workstation" the nMPs would work well for our use case (all major storage is networked, use a lot of GPU-accelerated plugins, Adobe software is so crappy that dual processors is completely wasted, all the laptops and field gear were Mac-centric so it woulda' been a lot easier to just plug stuff into a nMP than the pain and horror of trying to get Thunderbolt and TB2 working, et al). But who wants to buy apparently dead-end hardware? Software support is just as much about future trends as it is current hardware, so why should devs put work into fulfilling Apple's vision of computing if they won't?
As you and some other members mentioned: yes, software support is crucial and I agree.
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Grasping at straws, I'll admit.

Some on the site have speculated no component leaks etc. implying no Mac Pro this go around. But since they are now assembled and fabricated in the states with greater "leak control" could we be surprised next Thursday?

And although "No one" claims in his thread "Mac Pro Rising" to have seen components, I really don't buy into his narrative.

Anyway with the discussion of an intel agreement being up and having extremely tight control could apple have something up their sleeve?

And congrats to all the Z-station owners. I imagine I won't be terribly far behind.
In terms of agreement: probably using their own chips. Technical aspect: I wouldn't know. It's possible.
 
This event on the 27th is good news...
I hope that it won't be like presenting new MacBooks and just saying... hello... again.

In the case that they're mimicking the first Mac hello in '80s, I am really curious about the magnitude of the changes they 're going to present to justify the word "again".
 
Though it's not likely, it would be amazing if they decided to refresh everything at once. It's more likely they'd milk each refresh for it's own couple weeks of press coverage, but a mass refresh would certainly put people in a better place with regards to the future of the macOS.
 
Our office got Z840s for the same reason, although while my boss rails about

One great thing about the Mac pros are the pretty much near perfect silence under low usage. No buzzing of the PSU, no fan noise. Are the Z840s the same?
 
This event on the 27th is good news...
I hope that it won't be like presenting new MacBooks and just saying... hello... again.

In the case that they're mimicking the first Mac hello in '80s, I am really curious about the magnitude of the changes they 're going to present to justify the word "again".

Apple introduces Magic Toolbar update on nMP keyboard.
And one more thing...
A rose gold Pokemon Special Edition tube.
Profound Courage.
 
I would also be betting on a next year update, but with Skylake-X and Basin Falls-X.
It would be almost absurd releasing something now based on X99 still.
But this is a bit muddy since SKL-X will be only up to 10 core and I very much doubt there will be dual processor setups which would require Purley and SKL-EP.
But SKL-X with up to 44 PCIe lanes would be awesome, enough for dual GPU and 3 TB3 controllers on the CPU, and a couple of SSDs on the PCH (now PCIe 3 also), performance should still be pretty good even on the PCH (going through DMI3).
However, like I said, it's an awkward situation. Either Broadwell-EP with the same type of config but heavily outdated (X99, fewer PCIe lanes) or SKL-X and limited to 10 cores which is unlikely (although maybe the increased performance would compensate for the lack of cores). I would prefer this last option. Problem is availability, only H2'17.
SKL-EP will go up to 26 cores but in 2S systems only, but with 48 PCIe lanes (even better) and 6 channel mem (overkill and takes extra room in an already tight space inside the nMP).
[doublepost=1476976444][/doublepost]MacPro on the 27th seems unlikely. Unless Apple already has for some time "new" Polaris and/or Vega.
Or they'll just use available Broadwell-EP and start off only with "old" Polaris.
Another week of waiting...
 
No-one of you noticed that apart from MacBook Pro rumors, and information there is very little in terms of other Apple computer hardware rumors? ;)
 
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One great thing about the Mac pros are the pretty much near perfect silence under low usage. No buzzing of the PSU, no fan noise. Are the Z840s the same?

They're slightly louder than the nMPs from my experience (especially since I've had the nMP on my desk versus under it with the tower), but both are incredibly quiet compared to workstations of the past I've used, and the old Mac Pro towers.
 
Has it arrived yet? If so how are you getting along with Windows?
Got few days ago. Performance wise, it's great (i don't have adobe app to perform it yet)...silent....(sigh) hard to work with windows....for me at least. Slowly learning. I'm learning the basic first (mine came with window 10)...and planning to get adobe premiere. It's a black box........like mac pro...opens on the side.
 
When 1000 days hit with no news, no update, no hints from Apple, I started to seriously assess whether I could switch to Linux. I've been running a bunch of VMs trying out distros and finding new software to replace what I use now, and it may very well be a viable option for me if Apple doesn't really impress come October 27th. I'm on a refurbished 5,1 I bought from a non-Apple source, and if there's not a nnMP at least announced very soon, I'll probably be building a machine early next year and Apple will pretty much lose all my business from the lack of a halo effect.
 
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7 days... doesn't sound great.

With 'Hello, again', and the fact that coincided with the release of the iMac, will we see a refresh to the iMac that is as good as having an update to the Pro, or are we all officially dreaming and Apple will never release an upgradable Mac ever again, or wait until next year for the update to architecture that has already been mentioned?

I think we're as well jumping ship. The post about the store going quiet upon selling a Mac Pro could just as easily be because the 'Geniuses' know that the Mac Pro is an absolute rip off at this point. The last iMac outperformed the Mac Pro in some situations for video rendering... doesn't sound like an OLED bar is the reason to say that the Mac has been transformed with 'Hello, again', so should we expect something better? Or are we just not the target market anymore, and this will be a really popular event for MacBook Pro fans, whilst we wallow in the wind? I think any mention of the Mac Pro is a massive boost at this point...

I am not praying for an update to the Mac Pro, but just a mention of it so that we're no longer clutching at straws... at least then, we can make an educated purchase.
 
Tbh, I don't mind if it won't be ready this year, but I will be very angry, if they don't tell where the nMP is going towards.
I'm very afraid that we 're going to see you very angry soon... :) ...unfortunately.
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The post about the store going quiet upon selling a Mac Pro could just as easily be because the 'Geniuses' know that the Mac Pro is an absolute rip off at this point

At a funeral you stay quite too... so selling a dead product in a black box, perhaps the last one of its kind, it was a moment of sadness and a minute of silence for the dead product... and the buyer of course...
 
An informative video that proves how utterly pathetic the Mac Pro really is compared to the cost. A PC cost WAY less, the guy even have to throw in a ton of toys like VR headsets etc just to reach the price of the Mac Pro, and still the PC finish any multi threaded tasks 4-5x faster than the Mac Pro. Not that its any secret, but buying a Mac pro today, or any mac for that matter, you clearly can't care about hardware internals at all.
I would like to see a comparison with the D700 GPU's instead of the D500 GPU's. I still think the PC would be faster but the D500's are middle of the road GPU's from years ago.
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I think Apple looks at this the way car manufacturers do. They don't drop prices just because a model is two or three years old. That is really specific to the cut-throat PC and consumer electronics business.
The retarding update cycle may be annoying, but technically speaking there aren't material performance gains to be had by keeping up with Intel's marketing-driven release schedule.
If there is a clear leap forward in performance or architecture, I'm sure Apple would be among the first to adopt it. They have consistently done so in the past.

I think it is sensible they don't cut prices and keep Macs on a longer lifecycle. You don't get to brag about having the latest CPU, but the upside is better resale value.
They don't? IME it's just the opposite...they do exactly that.
 
Got few days ago. Performance wise, it's great (i don't have adobe app to perform it yet)...silent....(sigh) hard to work with windows....for me at least. Slowly learning. I'm learning the basic first (mine came with window 10)...and planning to get adobe premiere. It's a black box........like mac pro...opens on the side.
Windows 10 The Missing Manual by David Pogue seems pretty good for those of us new to Windows. It's over 500 pages and there are some PDF's on the companion site. Keeps me busy reading:) HTH
 
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Windows 10 The Missing Manual by David Pogue seems pretty good for those of us new to Windows. It's over 500 pages and there are some PDF's on the companion site. Keeps me busy reading:) HTH
Hahahaha I gotta check that out. Now,my concerns are antivirus and anti malware stuff....

TBH while I'm learning about windows, I have to continue with fcpx for work. It's gonna be a slow transition.
 
Or are we just not the target market anymore, and this will be a really popular event for MacBook Pro fans, whilst we wallow in the wind? I think any mention of the Mac Pro is a massive boost at this point...
If professionals matter to Apple, it's probably the video market and those people are the one's that have been moving to PC's so it seems like too little to late. In all likelihood, IMHO, Apple's Mac lineup is going to be the iMac and laptops so they can have something to communicate with their iDevices and complete their ecosystem.
 
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