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James Godfrey

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If Apple can use the smart connector and magnets with a metal back, they can figure out how to use them with a glass back. I just don't think they will.
Yeah but if a glass back is the direction they are going surely it’s going to have MagSafe 2 which is likely what they would use for the keyboard also…
 

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I mean, the obvious outcome to me is that the leakers inferred a glass back when they heard “wireless charging” which may be a game of telephone related to magnetic charging. Now we’ve got two different kinds of MagSafe charging: (1) glass-back iPhone and (2) traditional MacBook Pro MagSafe.

I think adding a Mac-style MagSafe charger in addition to the USB-C would make sense and essentially double the usable ports (since I’m sure the majority of users just use the USB port for power).

However, given that it makes sense to me means Apple won’t do it. They‘ll probably give one corner a glass back for the big iPhone-style puck ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
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James Godfrey

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I mean, the obvious outcome to me is that the leakers inferred a glass back when they heard “wireless charging” which may be a game of telephone related to magnetic charging. Now we’ve got two different kinds of MagSafe charging: (1) glass-back iPhone and (2) traditional MacBook Pro MagSafe.

I think adding a Mac-style MagSafe charger in addition to the USB-C would make sense and essentially double the usable ports (since I’m sure the majority of users just use the USB port for power).

However, given that it makes sense to me means Apple won’t do it. They‘ll probably give one corner a glass back for the big iPhone-style puck ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The main reason why I don’t think the iPad is even going to have reverse wireless charging is because it surely would have been brought to any other device before the iPad considering the current battery lives of the devices…

iPhones - 17-28 Hours Battery
MacBooks - 11-20 Hours Battery
iPad Pro - 9-10 Hours Battery

Out of all the devices out there to gain wireless charging, even Apple must know that the iPad is probably the worst device to incorporate the feature into considering its battery is the least out of all of there devices and has never really improved in years.
 

Diamond Dog

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Thinking about picking an M1 iPad Pro 12" up soon. Not really sure what they could add hardware-wise in 2022 or even 2023 that would make me want to wait. Screen tech is phenomenal, chip is fast, has plenty of RAM for my use, etc. I don't really care about the camera (it's way better than what I'd hope for on a tablet anyways) or wireless charging or anything like that.

I guess my question is, what big thing could they bring to the iPad that would get me to wait another year or two? And the answer for me, I think, is nothing hardware-related.
 

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Thinking about picking an M1 iPad Pro 12" up soon. Not really sure what they could add hardware-wise in 2022 or even 2023 that would make me want to wait. Screen tech is phenomenal, chip is fast, has plenty of RAM for my use, etc. I don't really care about the camera (it's way better than what I'd hope for on a tablet anyways) or wireless charging or anything like that.

I guess my question is, what big thing could they bring to the iPad that would get me to wait another year or two? And the answer for me, I think, is nothing hardware-related.

Lol, main thing I'd be interested in at this point is a big price drop. :p

Although dual FaceID+TouchID options for authentication would be nice.
 
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If you’re looking at 12.9” iPad Pro, unless some new charging protocol, change in camera orientation, or updated accessories (Pencil/Keyboard, etc) are important to you, I’d probably just grab a current generation M1 (ideally when on sale). I don’t think there’s going to be massive improvements in performance or the display that justify waiting.

If you’re looking at an 11” iPad Pro, it might be worth waiting for a mini-LED display, but then again you’re probably looking at $899 rather than $799 entry price, so getting a current generation on sale might be great unless a new display is really important.
 

rhyzome

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If you’re waiting for the 2022 iPad Pro, this is the thread for you. Feel free to discuss why you‘re waiting and what you’re hoping for in the next model.

According to MacRumors’ Buyers Guide, a new iPad Pro is released on average every 500 days. It looks like, based on the 2021 model, the next iPad Pro will likely be released in September or October 2022.
I hope you are wrong about September. Theyre often released in March…I’m hoping it is sooner rather than later!
 

rhyzome

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I mean, the obvious outcome to me is that the leakers inferred a glass back when they heard “wireless charging” which may be a game of telephone related to magnetic charging. Now we’ve got two different kinds of MagSafe charging: (1) glass-back iPhone and (2) traditional MacBook Pro MagSafe.

I think adding a Mac-style MagSafe charger in addition to the USB-C would make sense and essentially double the usable ports (since I’m sure the majority of users just use the USB port for power).

However, given that it makes sense to me means Apple won’t do it. They‘ll probably give one corner a glass back for the big iPhone-style puck ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I dont care what they do, as long as they add wireless charging fast.
 

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It has wireless charging with the Magic Keyboard.
Eh, I'm not sure that counts since you have to plug in the keyboard with a wire. The Magic Keyboard is more like an inefficient adaptor.

I suppose they could do a stand-alone smart connector charger, but that charges VERY slow. I think that the battery will actually continue to drain if the device is under a high enough workload.
 
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Biggest change for the new Pros would be OLED screen, reducing bezels and making possible a redesign.
 

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Yes because…?
Probably because Apple intentionally markets the iPad Pro as having the desktop-class M1 chip yet does nothing to leverage that power that a 2014 iPad Air 2 can’t.

Examples such as the laughable external monitor support, unreliable Files app, and unreliable background processing.
 
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Probably because Apple intentionally markets the iPad Pro as having the desktop-class M1 chip yet does nothing to leverage that power that a 2014 iPad Air 2 can’t.

Examples such as the laughable external monitor support, unreliable Files app, and unreliable background processing.

I was interested what mous had in mind as the post seemed cut off. But agreed don’t get me started on monitor support…
 

James Godfrey

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Anyone currently waiting, based on the current leaks I would say buy now if you need one, unless you need/want miniLED on an 11” model.

I simply can’t see Apple adding a glass back just due to the sheer weight, on top of that the magic keyboard would have to follow suit to distribute the weight evenly, so both together would probably weigh similar to two MacBook Airs or not that far off, hardly a portable tablet device IMO…

As for reverse wireless charging, again why would apple add this without giving the iPad massive battery gains, wireless charging on a device with less than 10 hours battery life seems very weird to me.

With the camera orientation changes, this is expected with ‘future’ iPad Pro’s according to rumours, none of them have mentioned the next iPad Pro, therefore I expect this to happen when a massive redesign happens, as it will take a lot more than just moving the cameras around to achieve what is rumoured, but let’s be honest that feature alone is only a very marginal improvement to the device, and without a full redesign seems a bit pointless especially since Apple have given the iPad line up the exclusive centre stage feature as a workaround for the issue with camera placement for the time being.
 

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With the camera orientation changes, this is expected with ‘future’ iPad Pro’s according to rumours, none of them have mentioned the next iPad Pro, therefore I expect this to happen when a massive redesign happens, as it will take a lot more than just moving the cameras around to achieve what is rumoured, but let’s be honest that feature alone is only a very marginal improvement to the device, and without a full redesign seems a bit pointless especially since Apple have given the iPad line up the exclusive centre stage feature as a workaround for the issue with camera placement for the time being.
I don't think moving the camera is going to require a major redesign because there is plenty of space in the bezel for the camera array below the Pencil magnets. CS was a solution to video chatting on a relatively stationary device, not because the camera is on the side.
 
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but let’s be honest that feature alone is only a very marginal improvement to the device, and without a full redesign seems a bit pointless especially since Apple have given the iPad line up the exclusive centre stage feature as a workaround for the issue with camera placement for the time being.
The camera being on the side drives me nuts as almost every time i use my 11" ipad pro it tells me the camera is covered as the camera is placed right where i hold the ipad
So i normally just type the password instead of using Face ID

My 12.9 pro is normally fine as it in the magic keyboard case so am not normally holding it.
 
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James Godfrey

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I don't think moving the camera is going to require a major redesign because there is plenty of space in the bezel for the camera array below the Pencil magnets. CS was a solution to video chatting on a relatively stationary device, not because the camera is on the side.
Looking at this tear down


the pencil charging section is relatively larger than most people think

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So either Apple can’t fit the camera and the pencil charger in the same spot, or even if they could, it would likely prevent any future front facing camera upgrades.
 
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James Godfrey

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The camera being on the side drives me nuts as almost every time i use my 11" ipad pro it tells me the camera is covered as the camera is placed right where i hold the ipad
So i normally just type the password instead of using Face ID

My 12.9 pro is normally fine as it in the magic keyboard case so am not normally holding it.
Yeah it is extremely annoying where it is placed, which makes you think why Apple haven’t moved it already with having this design for over 3 years now, I expect they have been trying to find ways though.
 
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