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I'm a long time Mac user who doesn't use any Apple 'services' much less an Apple card.

Should I be ..mad? I also dont shop at Walmart.. that website sucks.
Should you be mad? No, you probably should have just have strolled on by and not commented at all really.
 
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Last thing I would want to do when asked by a cop for my proof of insurance is hand him my phone...especially while turned on and unlocked.
You can open Wallet from the lock screen, including the step to authenticate with Face ID, without actually unlocking the device. But yes, one should still vastly prefer handing over the paper card if at all possible. Wallet cannot be opened with Face ID disabled using the side and volume buttons; it requires you to enter your passcode, at which point Face ID is enabled again and you could be compelled to use Face ID to unlock the device.

That aside, why would someone keep their car insurance card in their physical wallet, anyway?
 
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So many people that think they're all that just because they think only poor people shop at Walmart. Get a freakin' life. I know several people, myself included that could easily afford to shop at other grocery stores like Publix in my central Florida area. But we choose not to because no one can ever deny Walmart's prices are in fact cheaper than other stores like Publix and Target. Sure, Publix and Target stores are generally cleaner and more appealing stores. But who gives a crap if that comes at a higher cost for the same exact goods from Walmart? I'm going to a grocery store to buy groceries and goods, not staying there for a five night vacation stay.

So you people that are rich or think you're rich can continue to point your noses high as you avoid your local Walmart. But people like myself won't mind going to Walmart and pocketing the difference in cash that can and will go towards other rising costs in today's raising high economy.
 
So you people that are rich or think you're rich can continue to point your noses high as you avoid your local Walmart. But people like myself won't mind going to Walmart and pocketing the difference in cash that can and will go towards other rising costs in today's raising high economy.

Candidly, I think the conversation started somewhere with “why” WM doesn’t take Apple Pay and suddenly morphed into status and why ppl shop at WM. —I don’t care where ppl shop bc I don’t assume we have the same tastes, needs, or circumstances.

I will say that WM has easily the worst mobile shopping setup of anyone while Sam’s Club has among the best of the bunch (better than Costco, I’d argue). —I have both, Plus member at Sam’s and Exec at Costco if that matters. Scan and Go absolutely rocks at Sam’s but really sucked at WM.

Anecdotal to this, I tried WM+ just for Scan and Go but promptly cancelled it bc of the comedy that was checking out: you have to scan everything a second time at the self checkout before you leave. They should have called it Scan, Scan again, and maybe Go.

Amazon Fresh “just walk out” was no better but arguably worse, and took over 3 hours for a receipt. Yikes.
 
Ew. Kroger is buying Albertson's, parent of long-time Chicago grocery chain Jewel. I hope they don't pull the Apple Pay capability out of Jewel stores, just as I'm getting back to buying groceries in person.

Thanks for posting. I hadn't seen this news.

I live in a smaller city of about 100k and the choices here are Albertson's, Walmart and a couple of smaller locals that aren't convenient for me. When I lived in Denver & PHX I shopped at King Soopers & Fry's mostly which are both Kroger and practically indistinguishable from each other. I wonder if Albertson's will morphed into the same. Probably so.

As for Walmart, they have 3 supercenters here which are always packed. I only go there about once a year to buy oil for the car since I really can't stand the place and the crowds. However, there is a Neighborhood Walmart which is very convenient, easy in and out and good parking. It's basically just a grocery store with a lot better prices on most stuff than Albertson's and I do a lot shopping there. Neither take Apple Pay as far as I know.
 
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So many people that think they're all that just because they think only poor people shop at Walmart. Get a freakin' life. I know several people, myself included that could easily afford to shop at other grocery stores like Publix in my central Florida area. But we choose not to because no one can ever deny Walmart's prices are in fact cheaper than other stores like Publix and Target. Sure, Publix and Target stores are generally cleaner and more appealing stores. But who gives a crap if that comes at a higher cost for the same exact goods from Walmart? I'm going to a grocery store to buy groceries and goods, not staying there for a five night vacation stay.

So you people that are rich or think you're rich can continue to point your noses high as you avoid your local Walmart. But people like myself won't mind going to Walmart and pocketing the difference in cash that can and will go towards other rising costs in today's raising high economy.
If you really care about cheap groceries, Aldi is where it's at, especially for produce. Their store brands can definitely be hit or miss, but my grocery shopping always starts at Aldi then falls back to Target and Walmart for what I can't or don't want to buy at Aldi (we don't have Publix here).
 
Ppl who rent cars a lot. Very common.

I keep paper in the car but always the latest copy in my Apple Wallet. 😊
Makes sense. I don't know anyone who rents cars a lot (i.e., often enough for that to make sense vs. keeping it in the car except when they need it), but I don't know everyone.
 
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I think Walmart is fine without your “friends “ 🙄
Stop it. This story has nothing to do with my personal friends. They are your "friends" too. 🙄

These Apple Card users are part of a demographic—an extremely attractive demographic for retailers. And you're incorrect: Walmart is definitely interested in capturing that part of the demographic. They have highly accurate estimates noting how much money they lose by shunning that demographic.

Look through the archives: you'll see where Target and CVS blocked Apple Pay. Now they accept it. Target and CVS had those same kind of bean-counters on their financial staffs.

Companies like Walmart don't settle for "fine". They want to maximize the financial performance of their company. Growing users and growing functionality on the Apple Card will make this an increasing difficult decision for them.
 
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How about boycott Walmart permanently. Such a terrible company.
I can immediately, off the top of my head, name two far, far scummier, yet wealthier companies, that are loved by, or at least used by, most people here. Their names both start with the letter "A" and they both have better PR firms behind them.
 
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I just usually tap it with card now and it accepts it.
yes, but the payment terminals that don’t accept ApplePay also don’t accept tap-to-pay. Both are NFC and the places that block that for you to either use their proprietary payment methods or use chip reader and magnetic reader cards.
 
Like the employee at Lowe's or Home Depot gives a crap about anyone's feelings about Apple Pay. I mean, come on man. You're lucky if they will be willing to help you find the item you're looking for.

Even the manager will treat you as if they are deeply concerned about your feedback (maybe) and then call you an ******* in their mind as you walk away feeling satisfied with yourself.
You completely missed the point and being literal. It's called feed back on the sales floor/checkout from the stores KPI. Whether pos request is part of that I have no idea. But I'm sure it's a metric. Whether they get that from employee feedback or not IDK. So The last statement is irrelevant. I know employees themselves couldn't give 2 ___ks, lol. Macro picture of all their stores performance.
 
Ew. Kroger is buying Albertson's, parent of long-time Chicago grocery chain Jewel. I hope they don't pull the Apple Pay capability out of Jewel stores, just as I'm getting back to buying groceries in person.
In our area we have two grocery chains that are both owned by Kroger. One, Fred Meyer does not do NFC/ApplePay, the other, QFC does even though it is owned by Kroger. Evidently Kroger is not so hostile to the idea that they prevent their brands from implementing it. Our Safeway’s (owned by Albertsons) also all support NFC so I would hope that they continue to do so as well.
 
I’m very late in the conversation here but can somebody please tell me how stores are so selective about cards in the US? In all of Europe, you have contactless payments so Apple Pay and Google Pay work everywhere. We simply don’t think about it.

It’s a case of accepting cards, or not accepting cards.

How is the US so different?
 
Kroger is annoying, because I'm there so frequently.

Lowe's and Home Depot I figured they chose not to, because they have newer payment terminals.
 
I’m very late in the conversation here but can somebody please tell me how stores are so selective about cards in the US? In all of Europe, you have contactless payments so Apple Pay and Google Pay work everywhere. We simply don’t think about it.

It’s a case of accepting cards, or not accepting cards.

How is the US so different?
In the US, stores get to decide their own policies and what they want to accept or not accept. I assume based on your comment that in Europe, the government controls everything?
 
Kroger is annoying, because I'm there so frequently.

Lowe's and Home Depot I figured they chose not to, because they have newer payment terminals.
Home Depot for sure as I used to use Apple Pay there before they “upgraded” their terminals.
 
In the US, stores get to decide their own policies and what they want to accept or not accept. I assume based on your comment that in Europe, the government controls everything?
Shops are perfectly entitled to pick whether they want to accept cash, card or contactless payments. What they can’t do is charge a different price for different payment types.
 
In the US, stores get to decide their own policies and what they want to accept or not accept. I assume based on your comment that in Europe, the government controls everything?

The government doesn’t control everything no. Banking practises are decided by the banking industry and retailers opt for whatever is convenient and cost effective.
 
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Stop it. This story has nothing to do with my personal friends. They are your "friends" too. 🙄

These Apple Card users are part of a demographic—an extremely attractive demographic for retailers. And you're incorrect: Walmart is definitely interested in capturing that part of the demographic. They have highly accurate estimates noting how much money they lose by shunning that demographic.

Look through the archives: you'll see where Target and CVS blocked Apple Pay. Now they accept it. Target and CVS had those same kind of bean-counters on their financial staffs.

Companies like Walmart don't settle for "fine". They want to maximize the financial performance of their company. Growing users and growing functionality on the Apple Card will make this an increasing difficult decision for them.

And yet, Walmart doesn't accept Apple Pay. So what does that say about their determination of what they lose by not accepting it?

Why yes! That's right! Better for them not to accept it than to accept it, despite what anyone in here thinks.
 
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