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Very true, but they also chose to because they wanted customers. During the pandemic, some people wanted to minimize physical contact with other people. Some might say being afraid to touch a card to the terminal that many people used is silly but it’s a fact that people worried about this so if a business can facilitate a customer to make a purchase, they’re going to.

Holdouts like Walmart have a monopoly so they don’t have to worry about accommodating customers. They put their competition out of business a long time ago so now they just do what they want.

But there has been surprising blowback to Walmart in some areas of the country. It's surprising when it happens.
 
Very true, but they also chose to because they wanted customers. During the pandemic, some people wanted to minimize physical contact with other people. Some might say being afraid to touch a card to the terminal that many people used is silly but it’s a fact that people worried about this so if a business can facilitate a customer to make a purchase, they’re going to.

Holdouts like Walmart have a monopoly so they don’t have to worry about accommodating customers. They put their competition out of business a long time ago so now they just do what they want.
Businesses do stuff for "good PR" all the time. There isn't anything mystical about it.

The pandemic just provided an opportunity for businesses to pretend they care about people. "Ohh, look here people! See all this stuff we're doing to PROTECT YOU!! We love you soooooooooo much! Now give us your moneyz!"

Plenty of people fell for it too.

At least Walmart is honest. It doesn't even pretend to care. "We got the lowest price, buy it or not! And we don't care if you don't like it that we don't have Apple Pay either!"
 
What baffled me is WM saying it's more convenient. How is it more convenient to use a proprietary app per store than a universal payment system everywhere you shop??
 
Businesses do stuff for "good PR" all the time. There isn't anything mystical about it.

The pandemic just provided an opportunity for businesses to pretend they care about people. "Ohh, look here people! See all this stuff we're doing to PROTECT YOU!! We love you soooooooooo much! Now give us your moneyz!"

Plenty of people fell for it too.

At least Walmart is honest. It doesn't even pretend to care. "We got the lowest price, buy it or not! And we don't care if you don't like it that we don't have Apple Pay either!"

And often it's NOT the lowest price, or the quantity needed to get that price is ridiculous.
 
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But to Walmart, and their customers, it was all a hoax, sadly. *shrug*
You don’t have to think something is a hoax to understand that not all purported remedies are good uses of resources. I like contactless payments and being able to use my watch to pay as much as the next guy, but this isn’t really justified as a big driver of that.

“Tests have found traces of COVID-19 on surfaces, but no research has established that the virus is viable in those places.”

 
Yea actually needed cash over the weekend because the machine that took cards to load the laundry card was down. And it's just WM HD Lowe's around here that don't take AP, and I can easily avoid them.
Yeah sucks when you can't avoid cash. There are 2 car washes by my house, one takes cash/coins only and the other takes credit cards/ApplePay. Guess which I go to! I told the owner of the cash only this and he didn't seem interested. Went there once and never again.
 
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You don’t have to think something is a hoax to understand that not all purported remedies are good uses of resources. I like contactless payments and being able to use my watch to pay as much as the next guy, but this isn’t really justified as a big driver of that.

“Tests have found traces of COVID-19 on surfaces, but no research has established that the virus is viable in those places.”


That's totally true. It was coincidence that contactless payment hit the forefront at nearly the same time as a major pandemic. It surprises me that it didn't catch on more during these times, but credit cards are so ingrained in society. Now, finding a store/etc that DOESN'T take credit cards is so strange. Eventually finding a store/etc that doesn't use some form of contactless payment will be strange. Contactless will win the battle, but what ends up on top is still uncertain...
 
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In the end, one possible feature of iOS 17.0 will be the ability to allow third parties to use the NFC function on the iPhone 8/8 Plus/X and newer generation models. This may allow the Walmart App to "evolve" Walmart Pay so it is no longer an QR code optical scan system.
 
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That's totally true. It was coincidence that contactless payment hit the forefront at nearly the same time as a major pandemic. It surprises me that it didn't catch on more during these times, but credit cards are so ingrained in society. Now, finding a store/etc that DOESN'T take credit cards is so strange. Eventually finding a store/etc that doesn't use some form of contactless payment will be strange. Contactless will win the battle, but what ends up on top is still uncertain...

Actually I'm still surprised to find stores/etc that don't take certain cards. Discover is accepted *almost* everywhere, yet there are 'quite a few' that do not. Weird... I consider the Discover card the white bread of credit cards. You can find white bread like everywhere. Finding organic whole wheat bread is sometimes interesting for where I do find it, rather than where I don't. *shrug*

And whatever happened to 'Diners Club'? It was a card at some point, but seems to have disappeared. *shrug*
 
That's totally true. It was coincidence that contactless payment hit the forefront at nearly the same time as a major pandemic. It surprises me that it didn't catch on more during these times, but credit cards are so ingrained in society. Now, finding a store/etc that DOESN'T take credit cards is so strange. Eventually finding a store/etc that doesn't use some form of contactless payment will be strange. Contactless will win the battle, but what ends up on top is still uncertain...
I gave Ron Jon in Cocoa Beach a negative review last week, in part because they don't take contactless payments.

Were it not for my wife's physical card, I would have been screwed.

Normally I have a card with me, but I forgot my wallet in the hotel room.
 
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In the end, one possible feature of iOS 17.0 will be the ability to allow third parties to use the NFC function on the iPhone 8/8 Plus/X and newer generation models. This may allow the Walmart App to "evolve" Walmart Pay so it is no longer an QR code optical scan system.

I doubt Walmart will modify that. By using QR, Walmart Pay works on any phone. Even on the cheapest low-end phones that might not have built in nfc. QR payments are the new payment technology for the crowd. NFC is only for those who can afford a mid or hight tier smartphone.
 
I doubt Walmart will modify that. By using QR, Walmart Pay works on any phone. Even on the cheapest low-end phones that might not have built in nfc. QR payments are the new payment technology for the crowd. NFC is only for those who can afford a mid or hight tier smartphone.

Supporting NFC doesn't mean that Walmart would have to remove QR code support. Whether it's worthwhile for them to support the former in the first place, though... (especially if they have to jump through hoops to ensure they still don't support tapping regular credit or debit cards on their terminals).
 
Every once in a while, I run into a place that takes Apple Pay, but to get it to work, you have to scan some QR code first. I find it to be cumbersome and lame.

I think such places are all Square or Clover-based, and don't have real cc terminals.
 
Every once in a while, I run into a place that takes Apple Pay, but to get it to work, you have to scan some QR code first. I find it to be cumbersome and lame.

I think such places are all Square or Clover-based, and don't have real cc terminals.

I'm guessing they're restaurants. They likely do have readers, but since the cultural standard in the US is to not have the reader taken to the table, QR is basically the only way to do pay at the table otherwise.
 
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